What exactly did people think was going to happen?

[ptbw forever]

Except white people are actually forced to be 2nd class citizens and those who resist are attacked and destroyed.

Our rights on literally on the ballot every election year.

You're only a victim if you allow yourself to be one.

Bullshit boomer quote.

This isn’t the 50s anymore.

Someone tries to make you a victim you shoot them.

Tell that to the white South Africans.

Tell that to the indigenous Europeans today who have never known anyone who owned a gun.

Unless we shoot google and the entire Democratic Party we will be in danger of becoming the next white South African.

Using the white South Africans as an example is rather ridiculous. The white people went into South Africa and subjugated the natives who had lived there, and maintained that subjugation for hundreds of years. Then, when South Africa gained independence, there were limitations on how much land could be owned by people of color with the Natives Land Act of 1913. Apartheid then gave the white population (around 20%) vastly more control over the nation. Whites in apartheid had one of the highest standards of living on the continent, while blacks remained controlled and disadvantaged in every way.

That would be a perfect example of "What exactly did people think was going to happen?" when blacks were given the same rights as whites.

Same old false history and same old bullshit excuses for genocide.

To start with, the “natives” of South Africa were not Bantu like the black majority of that country is today, that would like claiming Bantu are natives to Somalia, they aren’t.

White people came to a mostly uninhabited area with a climate that worked for people of European descent and built a country from nothing, and then the Bantu came from up north and decided that South Africa was too good to leave and eventually came in such numbers that the white people were completely outnumbered, so they decided to establish a system that didn’t allow the Bantu to simply takeover the country but was still far more humane than the norm in Africa at the time.

 

[WinterBorn]

Oh? What would you call it when people refuse to be treated as second class citizens? Or women refuse to have their lives ruled by men? Are those not demands for equality? Speaking the truth make some people mad.

You mean like white people and men refuse to be 2nd class citizens?

Exactly. Would you expect others to behave differently?

Except white people are actually forced to be 2nd class citizens and those who resist are attacked and destroyed.

Our rights on literally on the ballot every election year.

How, exactly, are you forced to be 2nd class citizens?

And what rights of white people, specifically, are on the ballot every year?

I am forced to forgo my collective identity for nothing in return and I am forced to restrict my own thoughts and feelings no matter how reasonable in order to keep a living. I am forced to get in the back of the line for education and employment opportunities.

The right for my children to have decent to good schools after paying my state and local taxes without having to pay my life’s savings, my right to receive a fair trial, my right to own arms to defend myself from all enemies, my right to educate my children with the values that were passed on to me, and on and on.

Collective identity? What the hell is that?

You are not forced to restrict your thoughts and feelings. How could that be enforced?

You are not forced to the back of any line. Yes, there may still be vestiges of affirmative action, but not that much. If you qualify for entry into a college, you get in. If you are on the cusp, it is always up for grabs. I never had any problems going to college or getting promotions.

If you want better schools, be an active participant and live in areas with better schools.

YOu get a fair trial. And at least you will live to get to trial.

You have a right to own arms and defend yourself.

The values you teach your children are up to you. Of course, teaching your children hate will always be opposed by right thinking people.

 

[WinterBorn]

You're only a victim if you allow yourself to be one.

Bullshit boomer quote.

This isn’t the 50s anymore.

Someone tries to make you a victim you shoot them.

Tell that to the white South Africans.

Tell that to the indigenous Europeans today who have never known anyone who owned a gun.

Unless we shoot google and the entire Democratic Party we will be in danger of becoming the next white South African.

Using the white South Africans as an example is rather ridiculous. The white people went into South Africa and subjugated the natives who had lived there, and maintained that subjugation for hundreds of years. Then, when South Africa gained independence, there were limitations on how much land could be owned by people of color with the Natives Land Act of 1913. Apartheid then gave the white population (around 20%) vastly more control over the nation. Whites in apartheid had one of the highest standards of living on the continent, while blacks remained controlled and disadvantaged in every way.

That would be a perfect example of "What exactly did people think was going to happen?" when blacks were given the same rights as whites.

Same old false history and same old bullshit excuses for genocide.

To start with, the “natives” of South Africa were not Bantu like the black majority of that country is today, that would like claiming Bantu are natives to Somalia, they aren’t.

White people came to a mostly uninhabited area with a climate that worked for people of European descent and built a country from nothing, and then the Bantu came from up north and decided that South Africa was too good to leave and eventually came in such numbers that the white people were completely outnumbered, so they decided to establish a system that didn’t allow the Bantu to simply takeover the country but was still far more humane than the norm in Africa at the time.

This thread is about the backlash you think is justified. And yet, you refuse to acknowledge the backlash was justified in South Africa.

 

[ptbw forever]

Bullshit boomer quote.

This isn’t the 50s anymore.

Someone tries to make you a victim you shoot them.

Tell that to the white South Africans.

Tell that to the indigenous Europeans today who have never known anyone who owned a gun.

Unless we shoot google and the entire Democratic Party we will be in danger of becoming the next white South African.

Using the white South Africans as an example is rather ridiculous. The white people went into South Africa and subjugated the natives who had lived there, and maintained that subjugation for hundreds of years. Then, when South Africa gained independence, there were limitations on how much land could be owned by people of color with the Natives Land Act of 1913. Apartheid then gave the white population (around 20%) vastly more control over the nation. Whites in apartheid had one of the highest standards of living on the continent, while blacks remained controlled and disadvantaged in every way.

That would be a perfect example of "What exactly did people think was going to happen?" when blacks were given the same rights as whites.

Same old false history and same old bullshit excuses for genocide.

To start with, the “natives” of South Africa were not Bantu like the black majority of that country is today, that would like claiming Bantu are natives to Somalia, they aren’t.

White people came to a mostly uninhabited area with a climate that worked for people of European descent and built a country from nothing, and then the Bantu came from up north and decided that South Africa was too good to leave and eventually came in such numbers that the white people were completely outnumbered, so they decided to establish a system that didn’t allow the Bantu to simply takeover the country but was still far more humane than the norm in Africa at the time.

This thread is about the backlash you think is justified. And yet, you refuse to acknowledge the backlash was justified in South Africa.

The backlash wasn’t justified. They had better living conditions in Apartheid than they had ever known. Living in shitty houses is better than living in mudhuts.

There was no border to stop them from coming so the whites had to do Apartheid.

 

[WinterBorn]

Someone tries to make you a victim you shoot them.

Tell that to the white South Africans.

Tell that to the indigenous Europeans today who have never known anyone who owned a gun.

Unless we shoot google and the entire Democratic Party we will be in danger of becoming the next white South African.

Using the white South Africans as an example is rather ridiculous. The white people went into South Africa and subjugated the natives who had lived there, and maintained that subjugation for hundreds of years. Then, when South Africa gained independence, there were limitations on how much land could be owned by people of color with the Natives Land Act of 1913. Apartheid then gave the white population (around 20%) vastly more control over the nation. Whites in apartheid had one of the highest standards of living on the continent, while blacks remained controlled and disadvantaged in every way.

That would be a perfect example of "What exactly did people think was going to happen?" when blacks were given the same rights as whites.

Same old false history and same old bullshit excuses for genocide.

To start with, the “natives” of South Africa were not Bantu like the black majority of that country is today, that would like claiming Bantu are natives to Somalia, they aren’t.

White people came to a mostly uninhabited area with a climate that worked for people of European descent and built a country from nothing, and then the Bantu came from up north and decided that South Africa was too good to leave and eventually came in such numbers that the white people were completely outnumbered, so they decided to establish a system that didn’t allow the Bantu to simply takeover the country but was still far more humane than the norm in Africa at the time.

This thread is about the backlash you think is justified. And yet, you refuse to acknowledge the backlash was justified in South Africa.

The backlash wasn’t justified. They had better living conditions in Apartheid than they had ever known. Living in shitty houses is better than living in mudhuts.

There was no border to stop them from coming so the whites had to do Apartheid.

Oh, so being treated like shit is ok, because other places are worse? Horseshit. And the point that one race has all the advantages and another has none is a perfect setup for the kind of backlash we are talking about.

Of your examples of what is happening to white people, you could say "Well at least you don't live in _______, they have it way worse.".

 

[ptbw forever]

Tell that to the white South Africans.

Tell that to the indigenous Europeans today who have never known anyone who owned a gun.

Unless we shoot google and the entire Democratic Party we will be in danger of becoming the next white South African.

Using the white South Africans as an example is rather ridiculous. The white people went into South Africa and subjugated the natives who had lived there, and maintained that subjugation for hundreds of years. Then, when South Africa gained independence, there were limitations on how much land could be owned by people of color with the Natives Land Act of 1913. Apartheid then gave the white population (around 20%) vastly more control over the nation. Whites in apartheid had one of the highest standards of living on the continent, while blacks remained controlled and disadvantaged in every way.

That would be a perfect example of "What exactly did people think was going to happen?" when blacks were given the same rights as whites.

Same old false history and same old bullshit excuses for genocide.

To start with, the “natives” of South Africa were not Bantu like the black majority of that country is today, that would like claiming Bantu are natives to Somalia, they aren’t.

White people came to a mostly uninhabited area with a climate that worked for people of European descent and built a country from nothing, and then the Bantu came from up north and decided that South Africa was too good to leave and eventually came in such numbers that the white people were completely outnumbered, so they decided to establish a system that didn’t allow the Bantu to simply takeover the country but was still far more humane than the norm in Africa at the time.

This thread is about the backlash you think is justified. And yet, you refuse to acknowledge the backlash was justified in South Africa.

The backlash wasn’t justified. They had better living conditions in Apartheid than they had ever known. Living in shitty houses is better than living in mudhuts.

There was no border to stop them from coming so the whites had to do Apartheid.

Oh, so being treated like shit is ok, because other places are worse? Horseshit. And the point that one race has all the advantages and another has none is a perfect setup for the kind of backlash we are talking about.

Of your examples of what is happening to white people, you could say "Well at least you don't live in _______, they have it way worse.".

They weren’t treated like shit you moron. I just told you that Apartheid upgraded every aspect of their lives. They were perfectly fine with it until the outside world decided that it was wrong somehow that the whites run the country they alone built from nothing.

Without the outside world interfering the Bantus would have continued to be happy living in a more advanced country than they had ever seen regardless of how terrible their houses looked compared to homes in Europe or America, and eventually the Bantus would have received a protectorate nation where they would have been even more happy.

 

[WinterBorn]

Using the white South Africans as an example is rather ridiculous. The white people went into South Africa and subjugated the natives who had lived there, and maintained that subjugation for hundreds of years. Then, when South Africa gained independence, there were limitations on how much land could be owned by people of color with the Natives Land Act of 1913. Apartheid then gave the white population (around 20%) vastly more control over the nation. Whites in apartheid had one of the highest standards of living on the continent, while blacks remained controlled and disadvantaged in every way.

That would be a perfect example of "What exactly did people think was going to happen?" when blacks were given the same rights as whites.

Same old false history and same old bullshit excuses for genocide.

To start with, the “natives” of South Africa were not Bantu like the black majority of that country is today, that would like claiming Bantu are natives to Somalia, they aren’t.

White people came to a mostly uninhabited area with a climate that worked for people of European descent and built a country from nothing, and then the Bantu came from up north and decided that South Africa was too good to leave and eventually came in such numbers that the white people were completely outnumbered, so they decided to establish a system that didn’t allow the Bantu to simply takeover the country but was still far more humane than the norm in Africa at the time.

This thread is about the backlash you think is justified. And yet, you refuse to acknowledge the backlash was justified in South Africa.

The backlash wasn’t justified. They had better living conditions in Apartheid than they had ever known. Living in shitty houses is better than living in mudhuts.

There was no border to stop them from coming so the whites had to do Apartheid.

Oh, so being treated like shit is ok, because other places are worse? Horseshit. And the point that one race has all the advantages and another has none is a perfect setup for the kind of backlash we are talking about.

Of your examples of what is happening to white people, you could say "Well at least you don't live in _______, they have it way worse.".

They weren’t treated like shit you moron. I just told you that Apartheid upgraded every aspect of their lives. They were perfectly fine with it until the outside world decided that it was wrong somehow that the whites run the country they alone built from nothing.

Without the outside world interfering the Bantus would have continued to be happy living in a more advanced country than they had ever seen regardless of how terrible their houses looked compared to homes in Europe or America, and eventually the Bantus would have received a protectorate nation where they would have been even more happy.

Yes they were treated like shit. They were treated like shit compared to the way the whites were treated, and that is what they saw. The fact that people in other places had it worse doesn't change that. They were segregated into shitty places compared to what the whites were allowed. And that is where the backlash came in.

 

[Biff_Poindexter]

This thread is so entertaining.....

 

[katsteve2012]

Same old false history and same old bullshit excuses for genocide.

To start with, the “natives” of South Africa were not Bantu like the black majority of that country is today, that would like claiming Bantu are natives to Somalia, they aren’t.

White people came to a mostly uninhabited area with a climate that worked for people of European descent and built a country from nothing, and then the Bantu came from up north and decided that South Africa was too good to leave and eventually came in such numbers that the white people were completely outnumbered, so they decided to establish a system that didn’t allow the Bantu to simply takeover the country but was still far more humane than the norm in Africa at the time.

This thread is about the backlash you think is justified. And yet, you refuse to acknowledge the backlash was justified in South Africa.

The backlash wasn’t justified. They had better living conditions in Apartheid than they had ever known. Living in shitty houses is better than living in mudhuts.

There was no border to stop them from coming so the whites had to do Apartheid.

Oh, so being treated like shit is ok, because other places are worse? Horseshit. And the point that one race has all the advantages and another has none is a perfect setup for the kind of backlash we are talking about.

Of your examples of what is happening to white people, you could say "Well at least you don't live in _______, they have it way worse.".

They weren’t treated like shit you moron. I just told you that Apartheid upgraded every aspect of their lives. They were perfectly fine with it until the outside world decided that it was wrong somehow that the whites run the country they alone built from nothing.

Without the outside world interfering the Bantus would have continued to be happy living in a more advanced country than they had ever seen regardless of how terrible their houses looked compared to homes in Europe or America, and eventually the Bantus would have received a protectorate nation where they would have been even more happy.

Yes they were treated like shit. They were treated like shit compared to the way the whites were treated, and that is what they saw. The fact that people in other places had it worse doesn't change that. They were segregated into shitty places compared to what the whites were allowed. And that is where the backlash came in.

Of course they were treated like shit, and there was no need for outside interference to make them realize it.

Since African blacks were so "happy: with the system of Apartheid, I wonder why the "Defiance Campaign" came to fruition.

Defiance Campaign 1952 | South African History Online

 

[ptbw forever]

Same old false history and same old bullshit excuses for genocide.

To start with, the “natives” of South Africa were not Bantu like the black majority of that country is today, that would like claiming Bantu are natives to Somalia, they aren’t.

White people came to a mostly uninhabited area with a climate that worked for people of European descent and built a country from nothing, and then the Bantu came from up north and decided that South Africa was too good to leave and eventually came in such numbers that the white people were completely outnumbered, so they decided to establish a system that didn’t allow the Bantu to simply takeover the country but was still far more humane than the norm in Africa at the time.

This thread is about the backlash you think is justified. And yet, you refuse to acknowledge the backlash was justified in South Africa.

The backlash wasn’t justified. They had better living conditions in Apartheid than they had ever known. Living in shitty houses is better than living in mudhuts.

There was no border to stop them from coming so the whites had to do Apartheid.

Oh, so being treated like shit is ok, because other places are worse? Horseshit. And the point that one race has all the advantages and another has none is a perfect setup for the kind of backlash we are talking about.

Of your examples of what is happening to white people, you could say "Well at least you don't live in _______, they have it way worse.".

They weren’t treated like shit you moron. I just told you that Apartheid upgraded every aspect of their lives. They were perfectly fine with it until the outside world decided that it was wrong somehow that the whites run the country they alone built from nothing.

Without the outside world interfering the Bantus would have continued to be happy living in a more advanced country than they had ever seen regardless of how terrible their houses looked compared to homes in Europe or America, and eventually the Bantus would have received a protectorate nation where they would have been even more happy.

Yes they were treated like shit. They were treated like shit compared to the way the whites were treated, and that is what they saw. The fact that people in other places had it worse doesn't change that. They were segregated into shitty places compared to what the whites were allowed. And that is where the backlash came in.

They were Africa’s invaders and imperialists wiping out tons of tribes all over the continent and they were in South Africa trying to steal it from whites in the exact same way.

They shouldn’t get anything because they contributed nothing to the country.

Imagine if black people settled a small country in Southern Europe where no indigenous people lived and Germanic people came south after wiping out every other European tribe along the way until they got to that small black country built entirely by black people, you sure as hell wouldn’t be saying that those black people are oppressing white people for not allowing them to conquer the country while still allowing those white people to live next to them and even providing housing and jobs for them.

THAT is what happened in South Africa.

 

[ptbw forever]

This thread is about the backlash you think is justified. And yet, you refuse to acknowledge the backlash was justified in South Africa.

The backlash wasn’t justified. They had better living conditions in Apartheid than they had ever known. Living in shitty houses is better than living in mudhuts.

There was no border to stop them from coming so the whites had to do Apartheid.

Oh, so being treated like shit is ok, because other places are worse? Horseshit. And the point that one race has all the advantages and another has none is a perfect setup for the kind of backlash we are talking about.

Of your examples of what is happening to white people, you could say "Well at least you don't live in _______, they have it way worse.".

They weren’t treated like shit you moron. I just told you that Apartheid upgraded every aspect of their lives. They were perfectly fine with it until the outside world decided that it was wrong somehow that the whites run the country they alone built from nothing.

Without the outside world interfering the Bantus would have continued to be happy living in a more advanced country than they had ever seen regardless of how terrible their houses looked compared to homes in Europe or America, and eventually the Bantus would have received a protectorate nation where they would have been even more happy.

Yes they were treated like shit. They were treated like shit compared to the way the whites were treated, and that is what they saw. The fact that people in other places had it worse doesn't change that. They were segregated into shitty places compared to what the whites were allowed. And that is where the backlash came in.

Of course they were treated like shit, and there was no need for outside interference to make them realize it.

Since African blacks were so "happy: with the system of Apartheid, I wonder why the "Defiance Campaign" came to fruition.

Defiance Campaign 1952 | South African History Online

Maybe they were just racist reactionaries.....

 

[WinterBorn]

This thread is about the backlash you think is justified. And yet, you refuse to acknowledge the backlash was justified in South Africa.

The backlash wasn’t justified. They had better living conditions in Apartheid than they had ever known. Living in shitty houses is better than living in mudhuts.

There was no border to stop them from coming so the whites had to do Apartheid.

Oh, so being treated like shit is ok, because other places are worse? Horseshit. And the point that one race has all the advantages and another has none is a perfect setup for the kind of backlash we are talking about.

Of your examples of what is happening to white people, you could say "Well at least you don't live in _______, they have it way worse.".

They weren’t treated like shit you moron. I just told you that Apartheid upgraded every aspect of their lives. They were perfectly fine with it until the outside world decided that it was wrong somehow that the whites run the country they alone built from nothing.

Without the outside world interfering the Bantus would have continued to be happy living in a more advanced country than they had ever seen regardless of how terrible their houses looked compared to homes in Europe or America, and eventually the Bantus would have received a protectorate nation where they would have been even more happy.

Yes they were treated like shit. They were treated like shit compared to the way the whites were treated, and that is what they saw. The fact that people in other places had it worse doesn't change that. They were segregated into shitty places compared to what the whites were allowed. And that is where the backlash came in.

They were Africa’s invaders and imperialists wiping out tons of tribes all over the continent and they were in South Africa trying to steal it from whites in the exact same way.

They shouldn’t get anything because they contributed nothing to the country.

Imagine if black people settled a small country in Southern Europe where no indigenous people lived and Germanic people came south after wiping out every other European tribe along the way until they got to that small black country built entirely by black people, you sure as hell wouldn’t be saying that those black people are oppressing white people for not allowing them to conquer the country while still allowing those white people to live next to them and even providing housing and jobs for them.

THAT is what happened in South Africa.

Don't try to tell me what I would or wouldn't do. You haven't a clue.

But as for your suggestion that the blacks under apartheid had it better, and they should have been grateful for the improvement, that is like saying "they beat their people 4 times a day. We only beat ours twice a day. You should be grateful."

 

[ptbw forever]

The backlash wasn’t justified. They had better living conditions in Apartheid than they had ever known. Living in shitty houses is better than living in mudhuts.

There was no border to stop them from coming so the whites had to do Apartheid.

Oh, so being treated like shit is ok, because other places are worse? Horseshit. And the point that one race has all the advantages and another has none is a perfect setup for the kind of backlash we are talking about.

Of your examples of what is happening to white people, you could say "Well at least you don't live in _______, they have it way worse.".

They weren’t treated like shit you moron. I just told you that Apartheid upgraded every aspect of their lives. They were perfectly fine with it until the outside world decided that it was wrong somehow that the whites run the country they alone built from nothing.

Without the outside world interfering the Bantus would have continued to be happy living in a more advanced country than they had ever seen regardless of how terrible their houses looked compared to homes in Europe or America, and eventually the Bantus would have received a protectorate nation where they would have been even more happy.

Yes they were treated like shit. They were treated like shit compared to the way the whites were treated, and that is what they saw. The fact that people in other places had it worse doesn't change that. They were segregated into shitty places compared to what the whites were allowed. And that is where the backlash came in.

They were Africa’s invaders and imperialists wiping out tons of tribes all over the continent and they were in South Africa trying to steal it from whites in the exact same way.

They shouldn’t get anything because they contributed nothing to the country.

Imagine if black people settled a small country in Southern Europe where no indigenous people lived and Germanic people came south after wiping out every other European tribe along the way until they got to that small black country built entirely by black people, you sure as hell wouldn’t be saying that those black people are oppressing white people for not allowing them to conquer the country while still allowing those white people to live next to them and even providing housing and jobs for them.

THAT is what happened in South Africa.

Don't try to tell me what I would or wouldn't do. You haven't a clue.

But as for your suggestion that the blacks under apartheid had it better, and they should have been grateful for the improvement, that is like saying "they beat their people 4 times a day. We only beat ours twice a day. You should be grateful."

No, it is nothing like that at all.

Do you realize how stupid you are?

 

[katsteve2012]

The backlash wasn’t justified. They had better living conditions in Apartheid than they had ever known. Living in shitty houses is better than living in mudhuts.

There was no border to stop them from coming so the whites had to do Apartheid.

Oh, so being treated like shit is ok, because other places are worse? Horseshit. And the point that one race has all the advantages and another has none is a perfect setup for the kind of backlash we are talking about.

Of your examples of what is happening to white people, you could say "Well at least you don't live in _______, they have it way worse.".

They weren’t treated like shit you moron. I just told you that Apartheid upgraded every aspect of their lives. They were perfectly fine with it until the outside world decided that it was wrong somehow that the whites run the country they alone built from nothing.

Without the outside world interfering the Bantus would have continued to be happy living in a more advanced country than they had ever seen regardless of how terrible their houses looked compared to homes in Europe or America, and eventually the Bantus would have received a protectorate nation where they would have been even more happy.

Yes they were treated like shit. They were treated like shit compared to the way the whites were treated, and that is what they saw. The fact that people in other places had it worse doesn't change that. They were segregated into shitty places compared to what the whites were allowed. And that is where the backlash came in.

Of course they were treated like shit, and there was no need for outside interference to make them realize it.

Since African blacks were so "happy: with the system of Apartheid, I wonder why the "Defiance Campaign" came to fruition.

Defiance Campaign 1952 | South African History Online

Maybe they were just racist reactionaries.....

Of the oppresed variety.

 

[ptbw forever]

Oh, so being treated like shit is ok, because other places are worse? Horseshit. And the point that one race has all the advantages and another has none is a perfect setup for the kind of backlash we are talking about.

Of your examples of what is happening to white people, you could say "Well at least you don't live in _______, they have it way worse.".

They weren’t treated like shit you moron. I just told you that Apartheid upgraded every aspect of their lives. They were perfectly fine with it until the outside world decided that it was wrong somehow that the whites run the country they alone built from nothing.

Without the outside world interfering the Bantus would have continued to be happy living in a more advanced country than they had ever seen regardless of how terrible their houses looked compared to homes in Europe or America, and eventually the Bantus would have received a protectorate nation where they would have been even more happy.

Yes they were treated like shit. They were treated like shit compared to the way the whites were treated, and that is what they saw. The fact that people in other places had it worse doesn't change that. They were segregated into shitty places compared to what the whites were allowed. And that is where the backlash came in.

Of course they were treated like shit, and there was no need for outside interference to make them realize it.

Since African blacks were so "happy: with the system of Apartheid, I wonder why the "Defiance Campaign" came to fruition.

Defiance Campaign 1952 | South African History Online

Maybe they were just racist reactionaries.....

Of the oppresed variety.

If they were truly oppressed they would be treated like the so called “far right” in Europe(indigenous rights activists).

Oppression is not being able to even criticize the colonization of your country and the continent that your people built entirely without going to jail, or even being able to retaliate against protected minorities who harass or even rape your children.

Oppression is what white South Africans go through every single second of their lives, fearing that at any moment they will be swarmed by racist thugs looking purely to kill white people after being encouraged by their government to do so(something that didn’t even happen during Jim Crow)knowing that the government will let them off without any punishment and knowing that any white person who defends themselves will be punished.

 

[WinterBorn]

Oh, so being treated like shit is ok, because other places are worse? Horseshit. And the point that one race has all the advantages and another has none is a perfect setup for the kind of backlash we are talking about.

Of your examples of what is happening to white people, you could say "Well at least you don't live in _______, they have it way worse.".

They weren’t treated like shit you moron. I just told you that Apartheid upgraded every aspect of their lives. They were perfectly fine with it until the outside world decided that it was wrong somehow that the whites run the country they alone built from nothing.

Without the outside world interfering the Bantus would have continued to be happy living in a more advanced country than they had ever seen regardless of how terrible their houses looked compared to homes in Europe or America, and eventually the Bantus would have received a protectorate nation where they would have been even more happy.

Yes they were treated like shit. They were treated like shit compared to the way the whites were treated, and that is what they saw. The fact that people in other places had it worse doesn't change that. They were segregated into shitty places compared to what the whites were allowed. And that is where the backlash came in.

They were Africa’s invaders and imperialists wiping out tons of tribes all over the continent and they were in South Africa trying to steal it from whites in the exact same way.

They shouldn’t get anything because they contributed nothing to the country.

Imagine if black people settled a small country in Southern Europe where no indigenous people lived and Germanic people came south after wiping out every other European tribe along the way until they got to that small black country built entirely by black people, you sure as hell wouldn’t be saying that those black people are oppressing white people for not allowing them to conquer the country while still allowing those white people to live next to them and even providing housing and jobs for them.

THAT is what happened in South Africa.

Don't try to tell me what I would or wouldn't do. You haven't a clue.

But as for your suggestion that the blacks under apartheid had it better, and they should have been grateful for the improvement, that is like saying "they beat their people 4 times a day. We only beat ours twice a day. You should be grateful."

No, it is nothing like that at all.

Do you realize how stupid you are?

Yes, it is just like that.

You call me stupid, while you think millions of people should accept being treated like dirt since they don't live in mud hits?

 

[EduardBernstein]

They weren’t treated like shit you moron. I just told you that Apartheid upgraded every aspect of their lives. They were perfectly fine with it until the outside world decided that it was wrong somehow that the whites run the country they alone built from nothing.

Without the outside world interfering the Bantus would have continued to be happy living in a more advanced country than they had ever seen regardless of how terrible their houses looked compared to homes in Europe or America, and eventually the Bantus would have received a protectorate nation where they would have been even more happy.

Yes they were treated like shit. They were treated like shit compared to the way the whites were treated, and that is what they saw. The fact that people in other places had it worse doesn't change that. They were segregated into shitty places compared to what the whites were allowed. And that is where the backlash came in.

Of course they were treated like shit, and there was no need for outside interference to make them realize it.

Since African blacks were so "happy: with the system of Apartheid, I wonder why the "Defiance Campaign" came to fruition.

Defiance Campaign 1952 | South African History Online

Maybe they were just racist reactionaries.....

Of the oppresed variety.

If they were truly oppressed they would be treated like the so called “far right” in Europe(indigenous rights activists).

Oppression is not being able to even criticize the colonization of your country and the continent that your people built entirely without going to jail, or even being able to retaliate against protected minorities who harass or even rape your children.

Oppression is what white South Africans go through every single second of their lives, fearing that at any moment they will be swarmed by racist thugs looking purely to kill white people after being encouraged by their government to do so(something that didn’t even happen during Jim Crow)knowing that the government will let them off without any punishment and knowing that any white person who defends themselves will be punished.

Europeans aren't pure, and are hardly indigenous to Europe. Only a mere trace of Europe's genetics go back to the brown, and black people who first inhabited Europe.

 

[EduardBernstein]

You enjoy drinking the liberal Kool-Aid. Fortunately enough of us refuse to touch the stuff.

No koolaid here. From either side.

Anyone who uses the phrase "demand equality" unironically is up to their eyeballs in the koolaid.

Oh? What would you call it when people refuse to be treated as second class citizens? Or women refuse to have their lives ruled by men? Are those not demands for equality? Speaking the truth make some people mad.

Who's being oppressed in 2019 America? What the fuck? I'm not angry. I'm tired. So tired of this bullshit.

White people are oppressed, and not just in America.

White people are oppressed? White people make up the majority in America. They are oppressors, not the oppressed.

 

[ptbw forever]

They weren’t treated like shit you moron. I just told you that Apartheid upgraded every aspect of their lives. They were perfectly fine with it until the outside world decided that it was wrong somehow that the whites run the country they alone built from nothing.

Without the outside world interfering the Bantus would have continued to be happy living in a more advanced country than they had ever seen regardless of how terrible their houses looked compared to homes in Europe or America, and eventually the Bantus would have received a protectorate nation where they would have been even more happy.

Yes they were treated like shit. They were treated like shit compared to the way the whites were treated, and that is what they saw. The fact that people in other places had it worse doesn't change that. They were segregated into shitty places compared to what the whites were allowed. And that is where the backlash came in.

They were Africa’s invaders and imperialists wiping out tons of tribes all over the continent and they were in South Africa trying to steal it from whites in the exact same way.

They shouldn’t get anything because they contributed nothing to the country.

Imagine if black people settled a small country in Southern Europe where no indigenous people lived and Germanic people came south after wiping out every other European tribe along the way until they got to that small black country built entirely by black people, you sure as hell wouldn’t be saying that those black people are oppressing white people for not allowing them to conquer the country while still allowing those white people to live next to them and even providing housing and jobs for them.

THAT is what happened in South Africa.

Don't try to tell me what I would or wouldn't do. You haven't a clue.

But as for your suggestion that the blacks under apartheid had it better, and they should have been grateful for the improvement, that is like saying "they beat their people 4 times a day. We only beat ours twice a day. You should be grateful."

No, it is nothing like that at all.

Do you realize how stupid you are?

Yes, it is just like that.

You call me stupid, while you think millions of people should accept being treated like dirt since they don't live in mud hits?

You are literally too stupid to understand that you are saying people who live in mudhuts are being oppressed. People in mud huts are not oppressed and people living in small houses and shacks when they normally would be living in mud huts are definitely not oppressed.

That is what you are saying but your IQ is too low to register that.

 

[ptbw forever]

No koolaid here. From either side.

Anyone who uses the phrase "demand equality" unironically is up to their eyeballs in the koolaid.

Oh? What would you call it when people refuse to be treated as second class citizens? Or women refuse to have their lives ruled by men? Are those not demands for equality? Speaking the truth make some people mad.

Who's being oppressed in 2019 America? What the fuck? I'm not angry. I'm tired. So tired of this bullshit.

White people are oppressed, and not just in America.

White people are oppressed? White people make up the majority in America. They are oppressors, not the oppressed.

Without white organizations we have absolutely no power in America or anywhere and we are oppressed.