What does it mean to ... LiE ?

[Foolardi]

- Science and Morals - {1886 }

" The Foundation of morality is to have done,
once and for all,with Lying. "
-- Thomas Huxley { British biologist,writer } 1825-1895

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

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Depends on whether you ask a conservative or a leftist vermin.

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[Foolardi]

" The kind of fraud which consists in daring
to proclaim the truth while mixing it with
a large share of lies that falsify it, is more
widespread than is generally thought. "
-- Marcel Proust { 1871-1922 } French Novelist

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

" The kind of fraud which consists in daring
to proclaim the truth while mixing it with
a large share of lies that falsify it, is more
widespread than is generally thought. "
-- Marcel Proust { 1871-1922 } French Novelist

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Define "fraud".

Define "truth".

Define "lies".

Define "falsify"

Define "thought".

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[Foolardi]

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Depends on whether you ask a conservative or a leftist vermin.

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The passage was meant to show what fools people are
who are capable of uttering such idiocies are ....
It is slap-stick irony that Proust puts into the mouth
of a fool in order show what a fool he was. "
{Translation c/o Scott Moncrieff } in some circles
a " tribute to neurotics "

 

[Foolardi]

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Define "fraud".

Define "truth".

Define "lies".

Define "falsify"

Define "thought".

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" Although fraud in all other actions be odious,yet in matters
of war it is laudable and glorious,and he who overcomes his
enemies by strategem is as much to be praised as he who
overcomes them by force. "
-- Machiavelli
Who also is quoted as saying :
" Politics has no relations to morals. "

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

" Although fraud in all other actions be odious,yet in matters
of war it is laudable and glorious,and he who overcomes his
enemies by strategem is as much to be praised as he who
overcomes them by force. "
-- Machiavelli
Who also is quoted as saying :
" Politics has no relations to morals. "

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You and I might have read Machiavelli, but I doubt if any of the leftists here have. The words have too many syllables.

I recently saw a very interesting program on EWTN (the Catholic TV network). The program was called "Saints vs Scoundrels", and the particular episode was "St. Francis of Assisi vs Machiavelli".

Very interesting. It's a great show and I catch it every time I can.

But I agree with the quote.

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[mamooth]

If you're a conservative, then by definition, anything TheParty says is true, so repeating it can't be a lie. Quite the contrary, repeating what TheParty says is good and BlessedByGod, again by definition.

If you're a liberal, then there is an absolute truth, and telling a lie is wrong. That holds true regardless of whether the lie hurts or helps their cause.

Those of relative morality, the conservatives, will always hate and despise those of absolute morality, the liberals. The shining purity of liberal absolute morality causes physical pain to conservative moral relativists, much like sunlike burning a vampire. That causes the conservative moral relativists to lash out in pain and rage at the morally pure liberals.

Now, watch it happen here.

 

[ReinyDays]

Moses' 9th Commandment ... or is that too conservative? ...

 

[Foolardi]

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You and I might have read Machiavelli, but I doubt if any of the leftists here have. The words have too many syllables.

I recently saw a very interesting program on EWTN (the Catholic TV network). The program was called "Saints vs Scoundrels", and the particular episode was "St. Francis of Assisi vs Machiavelli".

Very interesting. It's a great show and I catch it every time I can.

But I agree with the quote.

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Near remarkable that comment.Because that is precisely how
the current Pope { St. Francis } is being explained.
There's a documentary about him that is rather
ridiculous.I can go back and find the Title.
The reviews are VERY Telltale.I went thru about 20 reviews
and was stunned.Near every one rated that documentary
a 9 or 10 rating.I thought ... who are these reviewers.
They must be part of some New World Order cabal.
Like our Legacy media here in the states.
This Pope is Not about what they review.He's For
most everything Pope John Paul and even Mother Teresa
was against.Except battling Poverty.

 

[Foolardi]

If you're a conservative, then by definition, anything TheParty says is true, so repeating it can't be a lie. Quite the contrary, repeating what TheParty says is good and BlessedByGod, again by definition.

If you're a liberal, then there is an absolute truth, and telling a lie is wrong. That holds true regardless of whether the lie hurts or helps their cause.

Those of relative morality, the conservatives, will always hate and despise those of absolute morality, the liberals. The shining purity of liberal absolute morality causes physical pain to conservative moral relativists, much like sunlike burning a vampire. That causes the conservative moral relativists to lash out in pain and rage at the morally pure liberals.

Now, watch it happen here.

Morality CANNOT be merely defined to accomodate any Plitical
Party or teaching.Morality is absolute.
Todays left in the United States have found a way to
bastardize the meaning of Morality.
Mother Teresa Never preached to proselytize her flock
to Catholicism. But she did preach about the inherent evils
of Abortions.
I guess that explains why Nancy Pelosi was not allowed
a personal visit with any Pope.She forced herself to see a Pope
a few years ago,When she advertised her visit to the Vatican city.
Pelosi and Biden are Bad Catholics.There is no way to reverse
or wing around it.

 

[Foolardi]

" He who goes to law ... Holds a wolf by
the ear. " -- Robert Burton
" Morality ,thou deadly bane,
Thy tens o'thousands thou hast slain! "
-- Robert Burns