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American Indian Activist Russell Means Powerful Speech, 1989



I suppose he's a racist too. He is speaking to whites about what whites have done to them. Listen good.

Don't his words sound familiar? The question is when will the excuses stop from whites?

I suppose we will hear how no one here put the Native Americans on reservations. But the reservations still exist. Poverty is high, alcoholism and suicide are high. And why is that? For the same reason the black community has drug use and crime that whites like those here talk about in per capita.

These people are not just randomly decideding to drink themselves to death for no reason folks. Maybe they wouldn't had they not been forced out of their homes.

By whites.
 
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American Indian Activist Russell Means Powerful Speech, 1989



I suppose he's a racist too. He is speaking to whites about what whites have done to them. Listen good.

Don't his words sound familiar? The question is when will the excuses stop from whites?

I suppose we will hear how np one here put the Native Americans on reservations. But the reservations still exist. Poverty is high, alcoholism and suicide are high. And why is that? For the same reason the black community has drug use and crime that whites like those here talk abut in per capita.

These people are not just randomly decided to drink themselves to death for no reason folks. Maybe they wouldn't had they not been forced out of their homes.

By whites.



actually it is what democrats have done to them starting with Andrew Jackson

his anger is misplaced
 
American Indian Activist Russell Means Powerful Speech, 1989



I suppose he's a racist too. He is speaking to whites about what whites have done to them. Listen good.

Don't his words sound familiar? The question is when will the excuses stop from whites?

I suppose we will hear how np one here put the Native Americans on reservations. But the reservations still exist. Poverty is high, alcoholism and suicide are high. And why is that? For the same reason the black community has drug use and crime that whites like those here talk abut in per capita.

These people are not just randomly decided to drink themselves to death for no reason folks. Maybe they wouldn't had they not been forced out of their homes.

By whites.



actually it is what democrats have done to them starting with Andrew Jackson

his anger is misplaced


No it is what whites have done to them. I know you want to try remaking the democratic party into the democratic party of the 1850's but this is 2017 and they aren't. His anger is justified.
 
American Indian Activist Russell Means Powerful Speech, 1989



I suppose he's a racist too. He is speaking to whites about what whites have done to them. Listen good.

Don't his words sound familiar? The question is when will the excuses stop from whites?

I suppose we will hear how no one here put the Native Americans on reservations. But the reservations still exist. Poverty is high, alcoholism and suicide are high. And why is that? For the same reason the black community has drug use and crime that whites like those here talk about in per capita.

These people are not just randomly decideding to drink themselves to death for no reason folks. Maybe they wouldn't had they not been forced out of their homes.

By whites.

We still have Indians here? Didn't we kick their ass already? What the hell are they still doing here?
 
American Indian Activist Russell Means Powerful Speech, 1989



I suppose he's a racist too. He is speaking to whites about what whites have done to them. Listen good.

Don't his words sound familiar? The question is when will the excuses stop from whites?

I suppose we will hear how no one here put the Native Americans on reservations. But the reservations still exist. Poverty is high, alcoholism and suicide are high. And why is that? For the same reason the black community has drug use and crime that whites like those here talk about in per capita.

These people are not just randomly decideding to drink themselves to death for no reason folks. Maybe they wouldn't had they not been forced out of their homes.

By whites.



Okay.... what do you propose we do as a solution? GO!
 
I think you need to listen to it again. Russell Means did indeed make a powerful speech, but he also included corrupt INDIANS also involved in the quest for "who is more powerful".
 
I think you need to listen to it again. Russell Means did indeed make a powerful speech, but he also included corrupt INDIANS also involved in the quest for "who is more powerful".

I know what he said. What I get tired of is you white people ignoring what you did in order to point out what everyone else did that was minor compared to what whites did.. Why was there a BIA Gracie? Why do we have a BIA Gracie? Weren't these guys already here? They seemed to be doing quite fine before a BIA was created FOR THEM. Who created the BIA Gracie?
 
American Indian Activist Russell Means Powerful Speech, 1989



I suppose he's a racist too. He is speaking to whites about what whites have done to them. Listen good.

Don't his words sound familiar? The question is when will the excuses stop from whites?

I suppose we will hear how no one here put the Native Americans on reservations. But the reservations still exist. Poverty is high, alcoholism and suicide are high. And why is that? For the same reason the black community has drug use and crime that whites like those here talk about in per capita.

These people are not just randomly decideding to drink themselves to death for no reason folks. Maybe they wouldn't had they not been forced out of their homes.

By whites.



Okay.... what do you propose we do as a solution? GO!


No. Whites did this. What is your solution?
 
American Indian Activist Russell Means Powerful Speech, 1989



I suppose he's a racist too. He is speaking to whites about what whites have done to them. Listen good.

Don't his words sound familiar? The question is when will the excuses stop from whites?

I suppose we will hear how no one here put the Native Americans on reservations. But the reservations still exist. Poverty is high, alcoholism and suicide are high. And why is that? For the same reason the black community has drug use and crime that whites like those here talk about in per capita.

These people are not just randomly decideding to drink themselves to death for no reason folks. Maybe they wouldn't had they not been forced out of their homes.

By whites.


How do you even sleep at night with all the injustice the white man has done to you?
 
Are you NA? No. Am I NA? No. Is my husband NA? Yes. BIA was put in to place by people who were or became corrupt, and they had help from corrupt NA's. Read up on Pine Ridge in what is happening today....this year...in 2017. The tribal police force are mostly on the take, therefore there isn't much help for safety. The tribal council voted to LIFT the ban of alcohol sales in Pine Ridge....and that did not come from white people. That vote came from tribal elders who want the $$$ it brings in, which there is little of.

Your quest to lay blame on "white people" is as corrupt as the people...white AND brown...who are helping destroy the rez. Not just whites.
 
No. Whites did this. What is your solution?

Oh... you want ME to solve it?

Okay, pull your big girl panties up and deal with it... that's fucking LIFE!

There's MY solution in a nutshell. Because, no matter what is done, it's never going to appease you because you're a racist who is always going to find a way to blame "whitey" for your problems.
 
Are you NA? No. Am I NA? No. Is my husband NA? Yes. BIA was put in to place by people who were or became corrupt, and they had help from corrupt NA's. Read up on Pine Ridge in what is happening today....this year...in 2017. The tribal police force are mostly on the take, therefore there isn't much help for safety. The tribal council voted to LIFT the ban of alcohol sales in Pine Ridge....and that did not come from white people. That vote came from tribal elders who want the $$$ it brings in, which there is little of.

Your quest to lay blame on "white people" is as corrupt as the people...white AND brown...who are helping destroy the rez. Not just whites.

I lay the blame where it needs to go. There was never a need for the BIA. There was never a need for the Pine Ridge Reservation.

You don't get that.

And yes I do have Cherokee ancestry. One of my grandmothers was 1/2 Cherokee thank you.
 
Pine Ridge Statistics as of 2007
  • Unemployment rate of 80-90%
  • Per capita income of $4,000
  • 8 Times the United States rate of diabetes
  • 5 Times the United States rate of cervical cancer
  • Twice the rate of heart disease
  • 8 Times the United States rate of Tuberculosis
  • Alcoholism rate estimated as high as 80%
  • 1 in 4 infants born with fetal alcohol syndrome or effects
  • Suicide rate more than twice the national rate
  • Teen suicide rate 4 times the national rate
  • Infant mortality is three times the national rate
  • Life expectancy on Pine Ridge is the lowest in the United States and the 2nd lowest in the Western Hemisphere. Only Haiti has a lower rate.
Nothing has changed since this was stated. It's just getting worse. But you think its all the "white man"?
 
Are you NA? No. Am I NA? No. Is my husband NA? Yes. BIA was put in to place by people who were or became corrupt, and they had help from corrupt NA's. Read up on Pine Ridge in what is happening today....this year...in 2017. The tribal police force are mostly on the take, therefore there isn't much help for safety. The tribal council voted to LIFT the ban of alcohol sales in Pine Ridge....and that did not come from white people. That vote came from tribal elders who want the $$$ it brings in, which there is little of.

Your quest to lay blame on "white people" is as corrupt as the people...white AND brown...who are helping destroy the rez. Not just whites.

I lay the blame where it needs to go. There was never a need for the BIA. There was never a need for the Pine Ridge Reservation.

You don't get that.

And yes I do have Cherokee ancestry. One of my grandmothers was 1/2 Cherokee thank you.
The blame can be put on many. Not just "white" people. The BIA was and is just one of many corrupt unneeded things, yet there it is. And it wouldn't have much umph if there was no help coming from INSIDE the rez itself with the elders who line their own pockets in some form or another.

You need to get off the blame game and either do something about it yourself instead of ranting on a message board, or find some kind of release to let the hate go that heads nowhere.

Put together a package before this winter. Coats, wood, thermals, blankets, propane, food, socks, shoes, monetary donations for the schools and the children, the elders freezing to death in the horrid winters. Have you done that? I have. Quite a few times. Me, who has nothing anymore, still finds time to shop at thrift stores and pick up something useful I can send to their donation center. In pine ridge, there are no casinos. They are there, waiting to die while trying to survive. Stuck on a spit of land that belonged to them in the first place. Point is, they keep trying. All you are doing is sitting in front of your monitor complaining about your own woes instead of DOING SOMETHING.
 
No. Whites did this. What is your solution?

Oh... you want ME to solve it?

Okay, pull your big girl panties up and deal with it... that's fucking LIFE!

There's MY solution in a nutshell. Because, no matter what is done, it's never going to appease you because you're a racist who is always going to find a way to blame "whitey" for your problems.

Well then since you seem to be the whiny white type who wants to holler racism all the time because it is pointed out what whites have done and continue doing wrong to others, pull up your own britches and understand that I am going to blame whitey for what whitey as done.
 
No. Whites did this. What is your solution?

Oh... you want ME to solve it?

Okay, pull your big girl panties up and deal with it... that's fucking LIFE!

There's MY solution in a nutshell. Because, no matter what is done, it's never going to appease you because you're a racist who is always going to find a way to blame "whitey" for your problems.

Well then since you seem to be the whiny white type who wants to holler racism all the time because it is pointed out what whites have done and continue doing wrong to others, pull up your own britches and understand that I am going to blame whitey for what whitey as done.
Ok. Blame Whitey in one hand, poop in another and see which ones fills up fastest. Help them, instead of sitting in your cushy house on a pc, eating popcorn or watching tv while the AC is on and know the heater works fine when winter comes and keep the blame game going.
Whatever floats your boat.
 
Better yet...help your own. Or do you want to continue to gripe on a message board and contribute nothing to anyone except feed your own hate?
 
Pine Ridge Statistics as of 2007
  • Unemployment rate of 80-90%
  • Per capita income of $4,000
  • 8 Times the United States rate of diabetes
  • 5 Times the United States rate of cervical cancer
  • Twice the rate of heart disease
  • 8 Times the United States rate of Tuberculosis
  • Alcoholism rate estimated as high as 80%
  • 1 in 4 infants born with fetal alcohol syndrome or effects
  • Suicide rate more than twice the national rate
  • Teen suicide rate 4 times the national rate
  • Infant mortality is three times the national rate
  • Life expectancy on Pine Ridge is the lowest in the United States and the 2nd lowest in the Western Hemisphere. Only Haiti has a lower rate.
Nothing has changed since this was stated. It's just getting worse. But you think its all the "white man"?

Are those the Indians that have a gut no matter what?

It's probably just bad genetics.
 
Meanwhile....I am off to more positive things to muse on. Have a good night and try to lose some of that white hate you have going on there in your head.
 

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