CDZ What difference does it make?

[OldLady]

Okay, anyone who was wondering is now sure of what kind of guy Trump is.

The question is, Does it really matter?

Is the election of a President supposed to be primarily a decision about what direction our country will take for the next four years? Or should it be a moral contest based on a candidate's private behavior?

It's not as if Trump's behavior is unusual. His victims didn't find it rose to the level of suing or having him arrested at the time. No one died. No one bled. Any woman reading this has probably had similar situations; I know I have. A landlord, a stepfather, a housemate's father and any number of first dates turned wrestling match. Shit happens.

Then the other side, which is easy for me to take since I was not a Trump supporter to begin with, ala Michelle Obama's rip roaring speech saying we cannot elect a man with such an offensive attitude toward women. We cannot hold him up as a role model for our children and as our representative, the "face of America" to the world. Not knowing what we know.

If possible, I'd like it if we could leave the bumper stickers and partisan talking points at the door on this thread and address the simple question, should Trump's behavior, in and of itself, be a deal breaker?
The finer points of policy and who's worse than whom can be discussed elsewhere. I'm just curious if anyone else wonders, should this be the one thing that turns voters off? Is the attitude toward women really that important?

I'm pretty certain that Trump is EQUALLY arrogant and abusive with BOTH men and women. So I'd discuss your premise from that standpoint. Wouldn't matter except for his vindictiveness, reliance on breaking folks with legal suits and public humilation and such.

So I HESITATE to hand over the keys to the IRS, SEC, OSHA, FTC, FCC, NSA, and the nuclear football to that type of individual. Do I have to EXPLAIN the ramifications of that further to anyone?

You won't sully your hands. Admirable. Until he wins because so many people wouldn't support the one person who could stop him.

 

[OldLady]

I don't care who says what, old lady.

Neither have what it takes for the office.

Would I prefer they stick to policy instead of mudslinging?

of course

but it won't happen til we get rid of pubs and dems

My gripe isn't with mudslinging. It's with mud. I've gotten one very clear answer so far. I know this is unusual for this board, but although I'm not hiding my dislike of Donald Trump, it really isn't about who's better.

 

[saveliberty]

I'm pretty certain that Trump is EQUALLY arrogant and abusive with BOTH men and women. So I'd discuss your premise from that standpoint. Wouldn't matter except for his vindictiveness, reliance on breaking folks with legal suits and public humilation and such.

So I HESITATE to hand over the keys to the IRS, SEC, OSHA, FTC, FCC, NSA, and the nuclear football to that type of individual. Do I have to EXPLAIN the ramifications of that further to anyone?

Those agencies have been weaponized for any president that chooses to use them.

 

[TooTall]

Okay, anyone who was wondering is now sure of what kind of guy Trump is.

The question is, Does it really matter?

Is the election of a President supposed to be primarily a decision about what direction our country will take for the next four years? Or should it be a moral contest based on a candidate's private behavior?

It's not as if Trump's behavior is unusual. His victims didn't find it rose to the level of suing or having him arrested at the time. No one died. No one bled. Any woman reading this has probably had similar situations; I know I have. A landlord, a stepfather, a housemate's father and any number of first dates turned wrestling match. Shit happens.

Then the other side, which is easy for me to take since I was not a Trump supporter to begin with, ala Michelle Obama's rip roaring speech saying we cannot elect a man with such an offensive attitude toward women. We cannot hold him up as a role model for our children and as our representative, the "face of America" to the world. Not knowing what we know.

If possible, I'd like it if we could leave the bumper stickers and partisan talking points at the door on this thread and address the simple question, should Trump's behavior, in and of itself, be a deal breaker?
The finer points of policy and who's worse than whom can be discussed elsewhere. I'm just curious if anyone else wonders, should this be the one thing that turns voters off? Is the attitude toward women really that important?

Trump's alleged behavior is of no concern to me. Thanks for asking the question.

 

[saveliberty]

Hillary seems more prone to seeking a battle with Russia over Syria.

Her sloppiness with sensitive information will only get worse as president.

She is not well enough to serve the term and there seem to be diminished capacity issues.

 

[320 Years of History]

Is the election of a President supposed to be primarily a decision about what direction our country will take for the next four years? Or should it be a moral contest based on a candidate's private behavior?

What the election is and must be about is both. It's not a binary matter. Both the substance of a candidate's policy proposals and well as the nature of their character are important. Of the two, the latter is more important because it is what is least easily altered. Racists do not overnight become non-racist. Sexists do not overnight discard their sexist attitudes. In contrast, one can overnight shift from being pro abortion, anti free trade, or "whatever;" moreover, one can do so fully and completely.

For example, recall Donald Trump's stances on an aspect of abortion-related policy, all within the space of hours in some cases. You know as well as I do that no new information about the nature of abortion, the women who obtain abortions, men who impregnate the women, aborted fetuses, doctors who perform the procedure, abortion clinics, or anything else even so slight as obliquely related to the matter of abortion appeared between the time the man stated one position and then stated a different one.

should Trump's behavior, in and of itself, be a deal breaker?

Yes. Not all of his behavior need necessarily be a deal breaker; however, that behavior which indicates the man quite simply does not without exception possess a frame of mind that accords due personal respect to individuals who comprise over 50% of the U.S. citizenry absolutely should be a deal breaker. The fact of the matter is that the President is a role model. Having a President who behaves as Trump has toward women is to tacitly give approbation to the kind of behavior of which Trump has bragged.

I'm just curious if anyone else wonders, should this be the one thing that turns voters off? Is the attitude toward women really that important?

I'm not going to list out a series of things that should or should not define the limits of acceptability among voters.

Yes, his attitudes toward women are "that important." Women are over half the population. Why it is that the man thinks his behavior toward women, and that attitudes that inspire it, should be discounted is beyond me.

First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.
-- Martin Niemöller​

 

[flacaltenn]

Okay, anyone who was wondering is now sure of what kind of guy Trump is.

The question is, Does it really matter?

Is the election of a President supposed to be primarily a decision about what direction our country will take for the next four years? Or should it be a moral contest based on a candidate's private behavior?

It's not as if Trump's behavior is unusual. His victims didn't find it rose to the level of suing or having him arrested at the time. No one died. No one bled. Any woman reading this has probably had similar situations; I know I have. A landlord, a stepfather, a housemate's father and any number of first dates turned wrestling match. Shit happens.

Then the other side, which is easy for me to take since I was not a Trump supporter to begin with, ala Michelle Obama's rip roaring speech saying we cannot elect a man with such an offensive attitude toward women. We cannot hold him up as a role model for our children and as our representative, the "face of America" to the world. Not knowing what we know.

If possible, I'd like it if we could leave the bumper stickers and partisan talking points at the door on this thread and address the simple question, should Trump's behavior, in and of itself, be a deal breaker?
The finer points of policy and who's worse than whom can be discussed elsewhere. I'm just curious if anyone else wonders, should this be the one thing that turns voters off? Is the attitude toward women really that important?

I'm pretty certain that Trump is EQUALLY arrogant and abusive with BOTH men and women. So I'd discuss your premise from that standpoint. Wouldn't matter except for his vindictiveness, reliance on breaking folks with legal suits and public humilation and such.

So I HESITATE to hand over the keys to the IRS, SEC, OSHA, FTC, FCC, NSA, and the nuclear football to that type of individual. Do I have to EXPLAIN the ramifications of that further to anyone?

You won't sully your hands. Admirable. Until he wins because so many people wouldn't support the one person who could stop him.

No M'aam I would not vote for the other arrogant, power hungry political chimera. I'll vote for a mgt team that can stop BOTH SIDES from ruining what's left of political process. Like a ticket with 2 former state govs on it who are humble and ASKING to serve. Not folks who think they DESERVE to serve and will shoot Bambi if it helps them win.. America needs more HUMBLE leadership and less dynasty and arrogance and abusiveness.

 

[Auld Phart]

Okay, anyone who was wondering is now sure of what kind of guy Trump is.

The question is, Does it really matter?

Is the election of a President supposed to be primarily a decision about what direction our country will take for the next four years? Or should it be a moral contest based on a candidate's private behavior?

It's not as if Trump's behavior is unusual. His victims didn't find it rose to the level of suing or having him arrested at the time. No one died. No one bled. Any woman reading this has probably had similar situations; I know I have. A landlord, a stepfather, a housemate's father and any number of first dates turned wrestling match. Shit happens.

Then the other side, which is easy for me to take since I was not a Trump supporter to begin with, ala Michelle Obama's rip roaring speech saying we cannot elect a man with such an offensive attitude toward women. We cannot hold him up as a role model for our children and as our representative, the "face of America" to the world. Not knowing what we know.

If possible, I'd like it if we could leave the bumper stickers and partisan talking points at the door on this thread and address the simple question, should Trump's behavior, in and of itself, be a deal breaker?
The finer points of policy and who's worse than whom can be discussed elsewhere. I'm just curious if anyone else wonders, should this be the one thing that turns voters off? Is the attitude toward women really that important?

I'm pretty certain that Trump is EQUALLY arrogant and abusive with BOTH men and women. So I'd discuss your premise from that standpoint. Wouldn't matter except for his vindictiveness, reliance on breaking folks with legal suits and public humilation and such.

So I HESITATE to hand over the keys to the IRS, SEC, OSHA, FTC, FCC, NSA, and the nuclear football to that type of individual. Do I have to EXPLAIN the ramifications of that further to anyone?

You won't sully your hands. Admirable. Until he wins because so many people wouldn't support the one person who could stop him.

No M'aam I would not vote for the other arrogant, power hungry political chimera. I'll vote for a mgt team that can stop BOTH SIDES from ruining what's left of political process. Like a ticket with 2 former state govs on it who are humble and ASKING to serve. Not folks who think they DESERVE to serve and will shoot Bambi if it helps them win.. America needs more HUMBLE leadership and less dynasty and arrogance and abusiveness.

Heard something I didn't think I would ever hear from youngest daughter and hubby tonight.

She is a hardcore liberal, goes to see every democrat giving a speech within 50 miles.

went to see Hillary twice this year when she was in the area.

and they dont' want to vote for HIllary.

They are both think about writing in Pence.
and as I think on it, that may be the way to go.

 

[OldLady]

Starting a thread is like sending a message in a bottle. This one washed up on a fairly unpopulated beach. Tossing it out one more time.

To listen to the political pundits on both sides and Hillary's surrogates and supporters speak, this was a deal breaker and Trump's support is falling, according to new polls since the Access Hollywood tape was released. The end of Trump Nation. Yet I am not hearing that from anyone here, or the people I talk to or hear on the news shows. I have not heard a single Trump supporter change her/his mind since the tape. Just a lot of tut-tut from people who didn't support him to begin with, and a handful of Republicans in office for whom it was just "the straw that broke the camel's back." I wonder where this supposed drop in the polls is actually coming from. Trump did much better in Debate 2 and continues to have a strongly supportive base, according to attendance at his rallies.

My head says Trump's behavior shouldn't be a disqualifier in itself.
My heart says it should.
I'm glad I didn't have to make that decision. It's a hard question to actually answer, I think, which might be why people are avoiding it.

So far,
8 respondents. 3 directly answered the question
5 No (It's not a deal breaker) direct or implied
1 Yes
2 Neither (Johnson/other supporters)

Anyone else want to chime in?

 

[Dogmaphobe]

Anyone else want to chime in?

Knowing what I already know about trump, it is difficult to imagine a situation where this was the only example of objectionable behavior, but I would say that if that WERE the only such example, then no, that wouldn't disqualify him. The problem, however, is that this is just more example of the sort of narcissism that disqualifies him for me as I don't want to see such a parson in the white house.

That being said, I do agree with a few of his positions, and I do disagree with some of Hillary's as well as not liking her character, either, , and so don't plan on voting for either. I find Gary Johnson to be a complete doofus and Jill Stein is too far out there for me as well, so for the first time since 1972, I am just not voting for president.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Trump is unfit to be president because he's wrong on the issues, regardless his bizarre behavior and the fact he's a bigot.

 

[Bruce_T_Laney]

Okay, anyone who was wondering is now sure of what kind of guy Trump is.

The question is, Does it really matter?

Is the election of a President supposed to be primarily a decision about what direction our country will take for the next four years? Or should it be a moral contest based on a candidate's private behavior?

It's not as if Trump's behavior is unusual. His victims didn't find it rose to the level of suing or having him arrested at the time. No one died. No one bled. Any woman reading this has probably had similar situations; I know I have. A landlord, a stepfather, a housemate's father and any number of first dates turned wrestling match. Shit happens.

Then the other side, which is easy for me to take since I was not a Trump supporter to begin with, ala Michelle Obama's rip roaring speech saying we cannot elect a man with such an offensive attitude toward women. We cannot hold him up as a role model for our children and as our representative, the "face of America" to the world. Not knowing what we know.

If possible, I'd like it if we could leave the bumper stickers and partisan talking points at the door on this thread and address the simple question, should Trump's behavior, in and of itself, be a deal breaker?
The finer points of policy and who's worse than whom can be discussed elsewhere. I'm just curious if anyone else wonders, should this be the one thing that turns voters off? Is the attitude toward women really that important?

His attitude toward women is not the major issue and should not the deciding factor if you will or will not vote for Trump.

I know about Trump and have for years, and I know he is the wrong direction but by God Hillary is no better either!

Worst election since 2004 and might be the worse ever!

 

[OldLady]

Okay, anyone who was wondering is now sure of what kind of guy Trump is.

The question is, Does it really matter?

Is the election of a President supposed to be primarily a decision about what direction our country will take for the next four years? Or should it be a moral contest based on a candidate's private behavior?

It's not as if Trump's behavior is unusual. His victims didn't find it rose to the level of suing or having him arrested at the time. No one died. No one bled. Any woman reading this has probably had similar situations; I know I have. A landlord, a stepfather, a housemate's father and any number of first dates turned wrestling match. Shit happens.

Then the other side, which is easy for me to take since I was not a Trump supporter to begin with, ala Michelle Obama's rip roaring speech saying we cannot elect a man with such an offensive attitude toward women. We cannot hold him up as a role model for our children and as our representative, the "face of America" to the world. Not knowing what we know.

If possible, I'd like it if we could leave the bumper stickers and partisan talking points at the door on this thread and address the simple question, should Trump's behavior, in and of itself, be a deal breaker?
The finer points of policy and who's worse than whom can be discussed elsewhere. I'm just curious if anyone else wonders, should this be the one thing that turns voters off? Is the attitude toward women really that important?

His attitude toward women is not the major issue and should not the deciding factor if you will or will not vote for Trump.

I know about Trump and have for years, and I know he is the wrong direction but by God Hillary is no better either!

Worst election since 2004 and might be the worse ever!

Agreed this is the worst election I recall. Even the third party choices are dismal. We do, unfortunately, have a binary choice to make. It will, in reality, come down to Trump or Clinton, no matter how we justify leaving it blank, staying home, voting for Johnson or Stein, or writing in Pence/Kasich/etc. Trump has a lot more enthusiastic supporters than Clinton. The Republicans are using the strategy of suppressing enthusiasm for the Democrat, because low voter turnout favors Republicans. It is working.

A vote for anyone but Clinton or a nonvote is a vote for Trump. So anyone voting that way needs to have thought that through and decided that Clinton is a worse choice. Despite the ABC poll this a.m. on CNN saying that Trump is 20% below Clinton re: favorability with women, that does not equate to 20% of the vote. Trump can still win this thing.

 

[TNHarley]

He doesn't seem to be any worse with women than he is with men. Should he treat women better? Probably. Is it sexist to want better behavior for one sex? Yes. IMO, that whole premise falls on its face.
The answer to the OP is no. At least IMO. ESPECIALLY when you consider Hillary is the SAME way, if not worse. "Worse" meaning she is a politician, and would rather lie to your face. At least trump will tell you to your face.

 

[Bruce_T_Laney]

Okay, anyone who was wondering is now sure of what kind of guy Trump is.

The question is, Does it really matter?

Is the election of a President supposed to be primarily a decision about what direction our country will take for the next four years? Or should it be a moral contest based on a candidate's private behavior?

It's not as if Trump's behavior is unusual. His victims didn't find it rose to the level of suing or having him arrested at the time. No one died. No one bled. Any woman reading this has probably had similar situations; I know I have. A landlord, a stepfather, a housemate's father and any number of first dates turned wrestling match. Shit happens.

Then the other side, which is easy for me to take since I was not a Trump supporter to begin with, ala Michelle Obama's rip roaring speech saying we cannot elect a man with such an offensive attitude toward women. We cannot hold him up as a role model for our children and as our representative, the "face of America" to the world. Not knowing what we know.

If possible, I'd like it if we could leave the bumper stickers and partisan talking points at the door on this thread and address the simple question, should Trump's behavior, in and of itself, be a deal breaker?
The finer points of policy and who's worse than whom can be discussed elsewhere. I'm just curious if anyone else wonders, should this be the one thing that turns voters off? Is the attitude toward women really that important?

His attitude toward women is not the major issue and should not the deciding factor if you will or will not vote for Trump.

I know about Trump and have for years, and I know he is the wrong direction but by God Hillary is no better either!

Worst election since 2004 and might be the worse ever!

Agreed this is the worst election I recall. Even the third party choices are dismal. We do, unfortunately, have a binary choice to make. It will, in reality, come down to Trump or Clinton, no matter how we justify leaving it blank, staying home, voting for Johnson or Stein, or writing in Pence/Kasich/etc. Trump has a lot more enthusiastic supporters than Clinton. The Republicans are using the strategy of suppressing enthusiasm for the Democrat, because low voter turnout favors Republicans. It is working.

A vote for anyone but Clinton or a nonvote is a vote for Trump. So anyone voting that way needs to have thought that through and decided that Clinton is a worse choice. Despite the ABC poll this a.m. on CNN saying that Trump is 20% below Clinton re: favorability with women, that does not equate to 20% of the vote. Trump can still win this thing.

In swing states like Ohio you could make the sales pitch that any vote that is not for Clinton would be for Trump ( which I would still disagree with ) but I live in Texas.

Winning the White House rests on winning the Electoral College Map and in Red States you can cast your vote for third party candidate because in the end the GOP candidate will still win.

The sad part is here in Texas on the local City levels it is very Democratic but this state really hates Clinton and I can understand why.

I would prefer every Trump voter to cast their vote for Johnson and even though Johnson come off dumb as can be he would be a hell of a lot better than Trump in the end!

Now with that written it is a few weeks out but Texas is a loss for Clinton and her focus is Ohio and Florida and Florida has that third party voter population that cost Gore in 2000 ( don't blame chad for this ).

So how do you sway the third party voter like me that does not agree with your view on how any vote that is not for Clinton is for Trump?

 

[OldLady]

He doesn't seem to be any worse with women than he is with men. Should he treat women better? Probably. Is it sexist to want better behavior for one sex? Yes. IMO, that whole premise falls on its face.
The answer to the OP is no. At least IMO. ESPECIALLY when you consider Hillary is the SAME way, if not worse. "Worse" meaning she is a politician, and would rather lie to your face. At least trump will tell you to your face.

Hillary is the SAME way? What in hell are you on? When is the last time a woman you've never met came up and gave your nuts a squeeze, planted one firmly on the lips whether you liked it or not? And felt completely justified in doing it? Do women talk about doing that to good looking strangers? MMMMM they might talk about what they'd like to do with this one or that one, sure, but not without the guy's consent. Kinda hard to do without the guy's active participation, if you know what I mean.
So you're taking that "let's be fair" thing too far, I think.

 

[OldLady]

Okay, anyone who was wondering is now sure of what kind of guy Trump is.

The question is, Does it really matter?

Is the election of a President supposed to be primarily a decision about what direction our country will take for the next four years? Or should it be a moral contest based on a candidate's private behavior?

It's not as if Trump's behavior is unusual. His victims didn't find it rose to the level of suing or having him arrested at the time. No one died. No one bled. Any woman reading this has probably had similar situations; I know I have. A landlord, a stepfather, a housemate's father and any number of first dates turned wrestling match. Shit happens.

Then the other side, which is easy for me to take since I was not a Trump supporter to begin with, ala Michelle Obama's rip roaring speech saying we cannot elect a man with such an offensive attitude toward women. We cannot hold him up as a role model for our children and as our representative, the "face of America" to the world. Not knowing what we know.

If possible, I'd like it if we could leave the bumper stickers and partisan talking points at the door on this thread and address the simple question, should Trump's behavior, in and of itself, be a deal breaker?
The finer points of policy and who's worse than whom can be discussed elsewhere. I'm just curious if anyone else wonders, should this be the one thing that turns voters off? Is the attitude toward women really that important?

His attitude toward women is not the major issue and should not the deciding factor if you will or will not vote for Trump.

I know about Trump and have for years, and I know he is the wrong direction but by God Hillary is no better either!

Worst election since 2004 and might be the worse ever!

Agreed this is the worst election I recall. Even the third party choices are dismal. We do, unfortunately, have a binary choice to make. It will, in reality, come down to Trump or Clinton, no matter how we justify leaving it blank, staying home, voting for Johnson or Stein, or writing in Pence/Kasich/etc. Trump has a lot more enthusiastic supporters than Clinton. The Republicans are using the strategy of suppressing enthusiasm for the Democrat, because low voter turnout favors Republicans. It is working.

A vote for anyone but Clinton or a nonvote is a vote for Trump. So anyone voting that way needs to have thought that through and decided that Clinton is a worse choice. Despite the ABC poll this a.m. on CNN saying that Trump is 20% below Clinton re: favorability with women, that does not equate to 20% of the vote. Trump can still win this thing.

In swing states like Ohio you could make the sales pitch that any vote that is not for Clinton would be for Trump ( which I would still disagree with ) but I live in Texas.

Winning the White House rests on winning the Electoral College Map and in Red States you can cast your vote for third party candidate because in the end the GOP candidate will still win.

The sad part is here in Texas on the local City levels it is very Democratic but this state really hates Clinton and I can understand why.

I would prefer every Trump voter to cast their vote for Johnson and even though Johnson come off dumb as can be he would be a hell of a lot better than Trump in the end!

Now with that written it is a few weeks out but Texas is a loss for Clinton and her focus is Ohio and Florida and Florida has that third party voter population that cost Gore in 2000 ( don't blame chad for this ).

So how do you sway the third party voter like me that does not agree with your view on how any vote that is not for Clinton is for Trump?

Dunno. I've been a third party voter many times, but in some ways, I think my argument doesn't actually change. You say you live in a state that is so heavily Republican, you can vote for Santa and it wouldn't matter. But even in Texas it will come down to Clinton or Trump, yes? So I don't see how your point changes my argument. If you are indeed in a state so heavily Republican that nothing matters, you are lucky.

 

[TNHarley]

He doesn't seem to be any worse with women than he is with men. Should he treat women better? Probably. Is it sexist to want better behavior for one sex? Yes. IMO, that whole premise falls on its face.
The answer to the OP is no. At least IMO. ESPECIALLY when you consider Hillary is the SAME way, if not worse. "Worse" meaning she is a politician, and would rather lie to your face. At least trump will tell you to your face.

Hillary is the SAME way? What in hell are you on? When is the last time a woman you've never met came up and gave your nuts a squeeze, planted one firmly on the lips whether you liked it or not? And felt completely justified in doing it? Do women talk about doing that to good looking strangers? MMMMM they might talk about what they'd like to do with this one or that one, sure, but not without the guy's consent. Kinda hard to do without the guy's active participation, if you know what I mean.
So you're taking that "let's be fair" thing too far, I think.

I mean the way they treat people. Trump is sexist towards woman. Well, look at the way Hillary has treated women.. Look at the things people say about the way she treats people..
BTW, woman do stuff like that all the time. Because they know the guy wont do shit about it. Women run the sex game. Unless you are a billionaire

 

[OldLady]

He doesn't seem to be any worse with women than he is with men. Should he treat women better? Probably. Is it sexist to want better behavior for one sex? Yes. IMO, that whole premise falls on its face.
The answer to the OP is no. At least IMO. ESPECIALLY when you consider Hillary is the SAME way, if not worse. "Worse" meaning she is a politician, and would rather lie to your face. At least trump will tell you to your face.

Hillary is the SAME way? What in hell are you on? When is the last time a woman you've never met came up and gave your nuts a squeeze, planted one firmly on the lips whether you liked it or not? And felt completely justified in doing it? Do women talk about doing that to good looking strangers? MMMMM they might talk about what they'd like to do with this one or that one, sure, but not without the guy's consent. Kinda hard to do without the guy's active participation, if you know what I mean.
So you're taking that "let's be fair" thing too far, I think.

I mean the way they treat people. Trump is sexist towards woman. Well, look at the way Hillary has treated women.. Look at the things people say about the way she treats people..
BTW, woman do stuff like that all the time. Because they know the guy wont do shit about it. Women run the sex game. Unless you are a billionaire

Wow. Tennessee must be quite the place.

 

[TNHarley]

He doesn't seem to be any worse with women than he is with men. Should he treat women better? Probably. Is it sexist to want better behavior for one sex? Yes. IMO, that whole premise falls on its face.
The answer to the OP is no. At least IMO. ESPECIALLY when you consider Hillary is the SAME way, if not worse. "Worse" meaning she is a politician, and would rather lie to your face. At least trump will tell you to your face.

Hillary is the SAME way? What in hell are you on? When is the last time a woman you've never met came up and gave your nuts a squeeze, planted one firmly on the lips whether you liked it or not? And felt completely justified in doing it? Do women talk about doing that to good looking strangers? MMMMM they might talk about what they'd like to do with this one or that one, sure, but not without the guy's consent. Kinda hard to do without the guy's active participation, if you know what I mean.
So you're taking that "let's be fair" thing too far, I think.

I mean the way they treat people. Trump is sexist towards woman. Well, look at the way Hillary has treated women.. Look at the things people say about the way she treats people..
BTW, woman do stuff like that all the time. Because they know the guy wont do shit about it. Women run the sex game. Unless you are a billionaire

Wow. Tennessee must be quite the place.

Indeed. No comment about how shitty of a person Hillary is?