Iceweasel
Diamond Member
Utter bullshit. Science is not circular reasoning. You are either lying or completely off your rocker.All the writings are made up by men. There were many books and a committee selected the ones to include in defining their religion, as requested by the emperor.
Your studies are nothing more than circular reasoning, it's true because it's written an it's written because it's true. That's not rational and dismissing any and all objections doesn't make your case.
Sure, because math and science books (as well as the Bible) were written by men. By definition, all studies are circular reasoning. (Think of simple math and the order of operations.) Where we break out of the circle, whether it be in math, science, or theology is when we close the book and begin applying and testing it in real life situations.
I understand some feel that the Bible failed them when they applied it to their real life situations. For many other, it opened doors. The advanced mathematics door did not open for me. Yet, I've never felt compelled to go on Internet forums and insist, that because the math door did not open for me, it can't open for anyone. So the theology door doesn't open for some. Why the need, when it doesn't open, to try to nail it shut, block it off, and stand in the way of others? Let people explore. Let all doors be open. People can tell me about math and science; I can tell about theology and grammar.
But please, go ahead and prove the supernatural elements of the bible. And explain why no one else recorded these miracles at the time. The Jews couldn't be bothered with mentioning the temple drapes toen in two? Daylight turned to night? The earthquake. All the risen dead people? All at the time the Jesus character was said to ascend to heaven. It's a rather odd omission.
And how so much of Philo and Greek thought get's incorporated into the enlightened Jewish scriptures.
And the door did open for me, like I said your arrogant dismissals are meaningless. I bought the whole nine yards for two decades but the more I learned, the more I used my head, the more faith it required. Until it ran out. That's actually how science works, you start with what's there instead of trying to fit facts into a belief system.