What Are These People Thinking?

[QuickHitCurepon]

The new curriculum discouraging "civil disorder" doesn't seem to work too well.

 

[boedicca]

Unbelievable. Worst.President.Ever

(with the exception of James Buchanan).

 

[SmarterThanTheAverageBear]

From the Army Study Guide

The way you salute says a lot about you as a soldier. A proud, smart salute shows pride in yourself and your unit and that you are confident in your abilities as a soldier. A sloppy salute might mean that you're ashamed of your unit, lack confidence, or at the very least, that you haven't learned how to salute correctly.

The Hand Salute ArmyStudyGuide.com

I'm fairly certain someone taught the piece of shit the correct way to salute.

 

[Rikurzhen]

From the Army Study Guide

The way you salute says a lot about you as a soldier. A proud, smart salute shows pride in yourself and your unit and that you are confident in your abilities as a soldier. A sloppy salute might mean that you're ashamed of your unit, lack confidence, or at the very least, that you haven't learned how to salute correctly.

The Hand Salute ArmyStudyGuide.com

I'm fairly certain someone taught the piece of shit the correct way to salute.

 

[SmarterThanTheAverageBear]

From the Army Study Guide

The way you salute says a lot about you as a soldier. A proud, smart salute shows pride in yourself and your unit and that you are confident in your abilities as a soldier. A sloppy salute might mean that you're ashamed of your unit, lack confidence, or at the very least, that you haven't learned how to salute correctly.

The Hand Salute ArmyStudyGuide.com

I'm fairly certain someone taught the piece of shit the correct way to salute.

Mother of God, I've seen first day recruits salute better than that, what a damned shame..........

 

[Rikurzhen]

From the Army Study Guide

The way you salute says a lot about you as a soldier. A proud, smart salute shows pride in yourself and your unit and that you are confident in your abilities as a soldier. A sloppy salute might mean that you're ashamed of your unit, lack confidence, or at the very least, that you haven't learned how to salute correctly.

The Hand Salute ArmyStudyGuide.com

I'm fairly certain someone taught the piece of shit the correct way to salute.

Mother of God, I've seen first day recruits salute better than that, what a damned shame..........

That's because first day recruits were raised immersed within American culture.

 

[SmarterThanTheAverageBear]

From the Army Study Guide

The way you salute says a lot about you as a soldier. A proud, smart salute shows pride in yourself and your unit and that you are confident in your abilities as a soldier. A sloppy salute might mean that you're ashamed of your unit, lack confidence, or at the very least, that you haven't learned how to salute correctly.

The Hand Salute ArmyStudyGuide.com

I'm fairly certain someone taught the piece of shit the correct way to salute.

Mother of God, I've seen first day recruits salute better than that, what a damned shame..........

.

Well, that and they just watched their neighbor pump out 40 pushups for executing such a lousy salute

 

[depotoo]

Personally, those that encouraged this behavior should be sought out. If they want to teach them about civil disobedience do it off school time.

Right, because protesting outside school hours will get so much attention.

Maybe they can have a civil disobedience sleepover in a remote campsite.

Either they (those encouraging the behavior) get it approved or they attend school board meetings to present their views. We are not talking about college students here.

Protest must be "approved"?

This made people talk about this school board. A kid standing up at a school board meeting wasn't going to make national news.

Kids won, just by bringing the issue into a big, bright spotlight.

The kids won? Really? No, who won was the adults that instigated it. The kids lost, not being taught a proper way in which to handle the situation. You can't tell me these kids even truly knew what it was all about, to begin with, other than the lines fed them by disgruntled adults. And let's say on the off chance they did, then all of them showing up at board meeting would have hqd just as much of an impact, and would have been the proper route to go. Do remember the press does attend school board meetings. The story now is more about these kids leaving school, rather than any real concrete grievances, other than their teachers don't care for the prospect of a new textbook and told them let's go against the school rules and leave to protest.

People complain of a lack of respect for others and rules with kids today. I wonder where some of it is stemming from?

 

[Political Junky]

 

[SmarterThanTheAverageBear]

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Nothing really wrong with that salute at that point.his hand in straight and the arm is still coming up, so don't know if he will end up perpendicular to the ground or not.

Looks like he's walking past some seated soldiers and saluting them as he walks past, which he shouldn't really be bending his head forward like that, but it's not totally incorrect. not like having a cup of coffee in your hand as you sort of swat at the top of your fucking head.

* correct way to salute when you have something in your off hand.

 

[Political Junky]

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Nothing really wrong with that salute at that point.his hand in straight and the arm is still coming up, so don't know if he will end up perpendicular to the ground or not.

Looks like he's walking past some seated soldiers and saluting them as he walks past, which he shouldn't really be bending his head forward like that, but it's not totally incorrect. not like having a cup of coffee in your hand as you sort of swat at the top of your fucking head.

* correct way to salute when you have something in your off hand.

You're pathetic.

 

[SmarterThanTheAverageBear]

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Nothing really wrong with that salute at that point.his hand in straight and the arm is still coming up, so don't know if he will end up perpendicular to the ground or not.

Looks like he's walking past some seated soldiers and saluting them as he walks past, which he shouldn't really be bending his head forward like that, but it's not totally incorrect. not like having a cup of coffee in your hand as you sort of swat at the top of your fucking head.

* correct way to salute when you have something in your off hand.

You're pathetic.

I'm pathetic because I think our POTUS should know how to salute correctly?

Sir, that is asinine.

 

[WinterBorn]

This is a great display of kids pushing to be educated and not indoctrinated. Conservatives call colleges liberal training grounds, but back this idea of a sanitized history class? What is wrong with teaching the kids what actually happened?

 

[Rikurzhen]

This is a great display of kids pushing to be educated and not indoctrinated. Conservatives call colleges liberal training grounds, but back this idea of a sanitized history class? What is wrong with teaching the kids what actually happened?

Instructional time is finite. From this it follows that priorities must be set. Knowledge is not hidden, it's there for all of us to access, and students who have a desire to intimately know American history have a lifetime available to them in which they can drink deep. This though doesn't describe most students. Most students are no social activists, most students simply want to be citizens and they love their country. We want to serve these students by informing them of the history which makes us all proud.

This notion of total transparency in everything is bogus. Do parents reveal to their children the entirely of their sexual history, a play by play of every person they had sex with and all the other warts in their life? There's no need for parents to do that. Similarly there is no need to devote finite precious class time to liberal-inspired hate-fests of where America went wrong, or more precisely, where America-hating liberals believe America went wrong for this entails an opportunity cost of skipping instruction in knowledge that has more utility. The America-hating liberal agitprop is freely available everywhere in society, especially on college campuses. Nothing is being suppressed or hidden, it's just not being celebrated.

One of the primary purposes of public schooling is to impart cultural unity into the student body, a shared understanding of American history, knowledge which will make students patriotic and committed to the nation and fellow Americans. Teaching students to hate America doesn't serve a purpose, public schools don't exist for that purpose, that's why liberals exist, to take over where public schools leave off.

 

[Wry Catcher]

Personally, those that encouraged this behavior should be sought out. If they want to teach them about civil disobedience do it off school time.

Right, because protesting outside school hours will get so much attention.

Maybe they can have a civil disobedience sleepover in a remote campsite.

Either they (those encouraging the behavior) get it approved or they attend school board meetings to present their views. We are not talking about college students here.

Protest must be "approved"?

This made people talk about this school board. A kid standing up at a school board meeting wasn't going to make national news.

Kids won, just by bringing the issue into a big, bright spotlight.

The kids won? Really? No, who won was the adults that instigated it. The kids lost, not being taught a proper way in which to handle the situation. You can't tell me these kids even truly knew what it was all about, to begin with, other than the lines fed them by disgruntled adults. And let's say on the off chance they did, then all of them showing up at board meeting would have hqd just as much of an impact, and would have been the proper route to go. Do remember the press does attend school board meetings. The story now is more about these kids leaving school, rather than any real concrete grievances, other than their teachers don't care for the prospect of a new textbook and told them let's go against the school rules and leave to protest.

People complain of a lack of respect for others and rules with kids today. I wonder where some of it is stemming from?

The "Kids" seem to be responsible citizens acting in a most democratic manner; contrast them to a bunch of fat, middle aged conservatives dressed in 18th Century garb and holding photographs of the POTUS with a Hitler Mustache.

 

[Derideo_Te]

Full libtard combined with youthful self-centeredness is a toxic brew.

Protesting against conservative positions is a sign of enlightenment. Details don't matter. Liberals are enlightened, conservatives are monsters. Protesting is to liberals like preening is to peacocks. Add youth to that brew and this is the outcome.

Time to end public schools. Liberals can send their kids to indoctrination factories and normal parents can send their kids to normal schools.

Did you attend a 'normal' school?

No. My education was very unique.

Home schooling is always "unique" and lacking in the basics such as the fact that this nation was founded upon a protest against taxes imposed by a conservative government headed by a monarch.

 

[Lakhota]

ARVADA, Colo. (AP) — Hundreds of students walked out of classrooms around suburban Denver on Tuesday in protest over a conservative-led school board proposal to focus history education on topics that promote citizenship, patriotism and respect for authority, in a show of civil disobedience that the new standards would aim to downplay.

The youth protest involving six high schools in the state's second-largest school district follows a sick-out from teachers that shut down two high schools in the politically and economically diverse area that has become a key political battleground.

Student participants said their demonstration was organized by word of mouth and social media. Many waved American flags and carried signs, including messages that read "There is nothing more patriotic than protest."

"I don't think my education should be censored. We should be able to know what happened in our past," said Tori Leu, a 17-year-old student who protested at Ralston Valley High School in Arvada.

The school board proposal that triggered the walkouts in Jefferson County calls for instructional materials that present positive aspects of the nation and its heritage. It would establish a committee to regularly review texts and course plans, starting with Advanced Placement history, to make sure materials "promote citizenship, patriotism, essentials and benefits of the free-market system, respect for authority and respect for individual rights" and don't "encourage or condone civil disorder, social strife or disregard of the law."

The proposal from Julie Williams, part of the board's conservative majority, has not been voted on and was put on hold last week. She didn't return a call from The Associated Press seeking comment Tuesday, but previously told Chalkbeat Colorado, a school news website, that she recognizes there are negative events that are part of U.S. history that need to be taught.

"There are things we may not be proud of as Americans," she said. "But we shouldn't be encouraging our kids to think that America is a bad place."

A student demonstrator, Tyrone G. Parks, a senior at Arvada High School, said Tuesday that the nation's foundation was built on civil protests, "and everything that we've done is what allowed us to be at this point today. And if you take that from us, you take away everything that America was built off of."

More: Denver Area Students Walk Out Of School In Protest

Why do Conservatives keep trying to whitewash history? Are they ashamed of it? They should be...

 

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JEFFERSON COUNTY, Colo. - Hundreds of students poured out of at least five Jefferson County schools on Tuesday to protest what they say is the Jeffco School Board's attempt to whitewash history.

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At issue is a proposed curriculum review in Jefferson County that could revise AP U.S. History to promote positive aspects of U.S. history and heritage, while avoiding material on civil disorder and social strife.

"Our entire history, things that changed America for the better, were acts of civil disobedience," said Debbie Velarde, a junior at Wheat Ridge High School which also had a smaller walk out of about 40 students. "The Declaration of Independence was an act of civil disobedience."

"An idea is to censor U.S. history so they can't talk about some of the negatives, or they don't want to talk about civil disobedience, which is censorship," said Arvada West junior Cuttitta. "And censorship's communism, censorship's national socialism, censorship is terrible."

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"What we really want is a promise from them that they won't restrict the content that is taught in our classes," said student Eric Temple. "Because we believe that if they restrict that content then we're not going to get the education that we think we should."

"I tend to think I'm a good student. And I get along very well (with everyone)," said Pomona High junior Julia Baskin. "So, they (the teachers) were all very happy that I took my rights and I ... believed in something and I followed through with it."

7NEWS discovered even the school board is at odds with itself over the proposed review.

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A similar Facebook page was created by students at Chatfield as well, encouraging a walkout.

Some students at Lakewood High School, instead of staging a protest, went to Jeffco Schools headquarters on Tuesday morning and met with Jeffco Schools Superintendent Dan McMinimee.

McMinimee has said repeatedly that the school board proposal concerning the curriculum review panel has not been passed, and is not in effect, and some people are just jumping to conclusions.

"I respect the right of our students to express their opinions in a peaceful manner. I do, however, prefer that our students stay in class. I have offered to meet with any students and answer their questions, which is what I did yesterday with the Evergreen High School students and today with Lakewood High students. Other members of my leadership team have also been meeting with students, answering their questions. Our most important priority is to keep our children safe during these demonstrations. It’s also important that our community understand that no decisions have been made regarding the curriculum committee."

The curriculum revision committee was introduced at a school board meeting last week, when the school board also passed a plan that ties teacher compensation to student performance.

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-- HISTORY MATERIALS TO PROMOTE PATRIOTISM? --

According to a spokeswoman for the Jeffco School District -- Colorado's second largest school district -- the board member's proposal to form a panel to review AP U.S. History and elementary health curriculum has been tabled, but will be discussed at the next school board meeting.

The curriculum committee would be a 9-member committee, seated by the school board.

According to the board member's proposal, the committee would make sure that U.S. history materials "promote citizenship, patriotism, essentials and benefits of the free enterprise system, respect for authority and respect for individual rights. Materials should not encourage or condone civil disorder, social strife or disregard of the law. Instructional materials should present positive aspects of the United States and its heritage. Content pertaining to political and social movements in U.S. history should present balanced and factual treatments of the positions."

The panel "would review curricular choices for accuracy and omissions, conformity to Jefferson County academic standards, and to inform the Board of materials that may reasonably be deemed objectionable.
The committee shall regularly review texts and curricula according to priorities that it establishes," according to the Jeffco School board proposal.

The ACLU of Colorado late Tuesday issues a statement in support of the students who walked out.

"State-funded school curriculum should promote academic integrity, not ideological agendas. A committee that polices educational materials for insufficient devotion to patriotism or a lack of respect for authority runs the real danger of substituting propaganda for education. It’s troublesome, especially during a week in which the ACLU and anti-censorship advocates across the country recognize Banned Books Week, that the curriculum review committee would be charged with identifying and referring so-called 'objectionable materials' to the school board. 'Objectionable' is a standard that lends itself to censorship by empowering a small few to judge content based on their own personal or religious beliefs. It’s ironic that an attempt to downplay examples of social change being accomplished through civil disobedience has spurred a community-wide crash course in just how important it is to be able to speak out and question authority in a just and democratic society.”

Student walkouts occur at Pomona Arvada Arvada West Ralston Valley and Golden high schools - 7NEWS Denver TheDenverChannel.com


I guess the question is should history be taught or should it promote ideological agendas?

 

[Stephanie]

to censor history?

so what is their protest DOING? Trying to censor HISTORY

this is being led by the TEACHERS folks. and YOU ARE PAYING FOR IT

 

[bodecea]

to censor history?

so what is their protest DOING? Trying to censor HISTORY

this is being led by the TEACHERS folks. and YOU ARE PAYING FOR IT

Proof?