What are Republican's plans to help uninsured Americans?

[francoHFW]

OBVIOUSLY, the 26 year old thing is not for everyone, it's just part of a new, fair, cheaper system that will get young people OFF WELFARE to get medicaid and thus medicaid, will cover those in college and university. Stop fighting what you can't understand because of Pub misinformation and brainwashing.

With ACA, and especially with the Schumer bill passed, we'll at least get SOMETHING paid by illegals, or much cheaper care (have a doctor, insurer, preventive care, etc). 53% of US is against ACA, 70% admit they don't understand it!!

 

[Mustang]

And at 25, 7 years out of HS, they have ample opportunity to have a job with a health plan...

And since when do I plan on having a 'child' or 'kid' of the age of 25 (but you know they are not kids, right?) on my health plan anyway?? Unless that child is a dependent because of disability, WHICH I COULD KEEP ON MY INSURANCE ANYWAY

How awful.

Well, again, who is paying for it?

If an employer is paying 10K to keep your family on the plan, and now Jr. gets to stay on the plan until he's 26, how does that benefit the employer. Eventually, this will drive up the costs of insurance, which means, eventually, they are going to have to lose warm bodies on the payroll to make that up.

See the problem?

We can all be generous with other people's money.

What are you talking about? Younger people have a lower rate of illness than older people. Consequently, even though the parents will be paying to continue to insure their children up to the age of 26, their children are far less likely to need major medical treatment than the parents.

 

[JoeB131]

What are you talking about? Younger people have a lower rate of illness than older people. Consequently, even though the parents will be paying to continue to insure their children up to the age of 26, their children are far less likely to need major medical treatment than the parents.

But Parents don't pay for it, employers do.

And while you are right that this is a minor part of the puzzle, it doesn't address the overall problem.

26 year olds weren't buying insurance because they rarely got sick. But the few who do are now under Mom's plan, and Mom's plan is now a bigger burden for her employer, who might just let Mom go because they have to reduce headcount.

 

[rdean]

Get government out of our health.

Yea, no Medicare. The fuckers are old. Let 'em die.

Oh, wait, that would be about 60% of the Republican Party.

Oops.

I wonder what percentage of that party that's died since the last election? I find it hilarious that so many are against health care, Medicare and Social Security when for so many, it's the only thing between them and, well, "Let them die".

 

[rdean]

That’s a lot of typing just to say the republicans have no plan and millions will be left uncovered.

The uninsured are not the problem.

The problem is that the costs of health care are spiralling out of control, and various schemes to pay for it no longer work.

You are shooting at the wrong target.

Don't say that. I suspect many Republicans believe the "fault" is with the American people. Those companies are "sacred". They "worked hard".

 

[Mustang]

That’s a lot of typing just to say the republicans have no plan and millions will be left uncovered.

The uninsured are not the problem.

The problem is that the costs of health care are spiralling out of control, and various schemes to pay for it no longer work.

You are shooting at the wrong target.

Of course the uninsured are the problem. What do you think happens to their hospital bills (especially last minute emergency room care once a medical problem has become acute) if they can't pay those bills?

 

[rdean]

Republicans have this fantasy that they can "go it alone".

Then reality steps in:

 

[JoeB131]

That’s a lot of typing just to say the republicans have no plan and millions will be left uncovered.

The uninsured are not the problem.

The problem is that the costs of health care are spiralling out of control, and various schemes to pay for it no longer work.

You are shooting at the wrong target.

Don't say that. I suspect many Republicans believe the "fault" is with the American people. Those companies are "sacred". They "worked hard".

The only reason why employers provide them is because they became a fringe benefit when the government tried to impose wage controls during WWII. But whether you are one of the 100 million who get it from a government program, or one of the 150 million who get it through a private insurer, the same problem is there. Revenues are flat, expenses are increasing exponentially.

 

[Conservative]

Even if those without insurance could make small payments toward their bills every month, it would help tremendously and many hospitals would be better off.

The Republicans have talked a lot in the past about allowing insurance companies to compete across state lines. The government tied their hands and eliminated the chance for competition. If you look at the auto insurance companies, you see the deals getting better all the time because competition brings prices down.

Also, Obama made a deal with Big Pharms, which will keep costs high. It's been government involvement that messed things up. The experts agree that Obamacare will raise prices, not just costs of care, but premiums for health insurance will sky rocket. Obamacare is designed to put the insurance companies out of business.

It amazes me when I see insurance companies vilified. I have a family member who fell ill and had several years of surgeries and long term hospital stays. For the money he spent on his insurance for the ten years at his job, he had nearly 2 million in hospital and doctor bills paid and he made payments on his co pay, which was under $10,000. Obviously, without insurance, he'd never be able to pay the bill in his lifetime. The money insurance pays out compared to the premiums people pay in is a good investment for people. Before insurance companies existed, people were on their own.

It's not insurance companies that are the villians, though the premiums would be even lower if they could compete. We need to look at why costs are so high. I am aware that those without insurance pose a problem and the hospitals pass the costs on to those with insurance. Still, the costs of simple supplies and care are way too high to begin with.

Even low income people without insurance could pay something toward their bill. Most really low income people qualify for every government program, including Medicaid, so they usually have no worries about paying anything. Others could send something for payment each month, but they don't even try.

I know some are saying that Obamacare will solve the problems, but it'll just get worse. When they run the private insurance companies out of business and people are forced to turn to government. we'll see serious rationing of care and long waiting lists to see specialists and even doctors.

Why do people look to government to solve the problem instead of asking what each of us can do for ourselves? Government interference is often the cause of many problems and more government interference damn sure isn't the answer.

Deporting nearly 2 million illegal aliens would help, too. We can do that by not granting automatic citizenship to anchor babies, insisting on photo IDs and valid social security numbers to get a job or welfare. Cut them off all the freebies, like Obama's aunt and uncle get, and they'll deport themselves.

That’s a lot of typing just to say the republicans have no plan and millions will be left uncovered.

That a little typing to say you have no idea what you're talking about, and to spout Dem talking points.

 

[rdean]

The uninsured are not the problem.

The problem is that the costs of health care are spiralling out of control, and various schemes to pay for it no longer work.

You are shooting at the wrong target.

Don't say that. I suspect many Republicans believe the "fault" is with the American people. Those companies are "sacred". They "worked hard".

The only reason why employers provide them is because they became a fringe benefit when the government tried to impose wage controls during WWII. But whether you are one of the 100 million who get it from a government program, or one of the 150 million who get it through a private insurer, the same problem is there. Revenues are flat, expenses are increasing exponentially.

Revenues are flat because there has been no effort to "grow" the economy. When I was young, it wasn't unusual for some to spend their entire career at one company. CEO's had a personal investment in that company.

Today, it's about what can be squeezed out.

Take research for instance. Many companies grow from acquisition. Investment in research is risky. This is why we need Universities, Corporations and Government working together.

With a "go it alone" mindset, that makes zero sense. In fact, Republicans think Government needs to be shrunk to where it can be drowned in a bathtub and education is "overrated". They put ALL their faith in corporations, which, as Mitt said, "Are people, my friend".

 

[rdean]

Even if those without insurance could make small payments toward their bills every month, it would help tremendously and many hospitals would be better off.

The Republicans have talked a lot in the past about allowing insurance companies to compete across state lines. The government tied their hands and eliminated the chance for competition. If you look at the auto insurance companies, you see the deals getting better all the time because competition brings prices down.

Also, Obama made a deal with Big Pharms, which will keep costs high. It's been government involvement that messed things up. The experts agree that Obamacare will raise prices, not just costs of care, but premiums for health insurance will sky rocket. Obamacare is designed to put the insurance companies out of business.

It amazes me when I see insurance companies vilified. I have a family member who fell ill and had several years of surgeries and long term hospital stays. For the money he spent on his insurance for the ten years at his job, he had nearly 2 million in hospital and doctor bills paid and he made payments on his co pay, which was under $10,000. Obviously, without insurance, he'd never be able to pay the bill in his lifetime. The money insurance pays out compared to the premiums people pay in is a good investment for people. Before insurance companies existed, people were on their own.

It's not insurance companies that are the villians, though the premiums would be even lower if they could compete. We need to look at why costs are so high. I am aware that those without insurance pose a problem and the hospitals pass the costs on to those with insurance. Still, the costs of simple supplies and care are way too high to begin with.

Even low income people without insurance could pay something toward their bill. Most really low income people qualify for every government program, including Medicaid, so they usually have no worries about paying anything. Others could send something for payment each month, but they don't even try.

I know some are saying that Obamacare will solve the problems, but it'll just get worse. When they run the private insurance companies out of business and people are forced to turn to government. we'll see serious rationing of care and long waiting lists to see specialists and even doctors.

Why do people look to government to solve the problem instead of asking what each of us can do for ourselves? Government interference is often the cause of many problems and more government interference damn sure isn't the answer.

Deporting nearly 2 million illegal aliens would help, too. We can do that by not granting automatic citizenship to anchor babies, insisting on photo IDs and valid social security numbers to get a job or welfare. Cut them off all the freebies, like Obama's aunt and uncle get, and they'll deport themselves.

That’s a lot of typing just to say the republicans have no plan and millions will be left uncovered.

That a little typing to say you have no idea what you're talking about, and to spout Dem talking points.

Considering that no Republican policy has worked in the last 20 years, why they are so sure one will work this time amazes me. This isn't Eisenhower's Republican Party. This is "the dumbfucks who think Bush was smart" Republican Party. Worlds apart.