We’ve Known for Months 3 Factors Are Massively Inflating COVID’s Fatality Count.

[eagle1462010]

Why American life went on as normal during the killer pandemic of 1969

Patti Mulhearn Lydon, 68, doesn’t have rose-colored memories of attending Woodstock in August 1969. The rock festival, which took place over four days in Bethel, NY, mostly reminds her of being cov…

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Woodstock.........Free love and LSD...........during a PANDEMIC.........that killed about the same number of Americans given the population increase.

No shutdowns..........no lockdowns.......no mask requirements........LIVE WENT ON.....IMAGINE THAT.

 

[eddiew]

The official statistics on COVID deaths are a scam.

We've Known for Months 3 Factors Are Massively Inflating COVID's Fatality Count. Trump Needs to Appoint a Commission to Find Out the Truth​

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .​

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Few Americans know that a local CBS affiliate examined 589 alleged Palm Beach, Florida fatalities and discovered that far less than a third (169) had actually died of the virus.​

​

Most are unaware that the COVID-19 death tally they’ve been terrorized with for months has included motor-cycle fatalities and gunshot victims.​

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .​

Factor 1. Anyone who dies and is diagnosed with COVID-19 gets put on the fatality list regardless of how mild their symptoms were or any proof that something else was the real culprit. ​

​

According to Coronavirus Task Force coordinator, Dr. Birx herself:​

If someone dies with COVID-19, we are counting that as a COVID-19 death.​

The unofficial mascot of our response to COVID-19, Dr. Fauci said:​

I can’t imagine if someone comes in with coronavirus, goes to an ICU, and they have an underlying heart condition and they die—they’re going to say, ‘Cause of death: heart attack.’ I cannot see that happening.​

For whatever reason, the bureaucrats in charge have decided on guidelines that are bound to add a lot of people who would have died of some other cause anyway to COVID-19’s death tally. They haven’t just admitted it; they’ve bragged of it.​

​

Given that 80% of COVID-19 infections don’t cause severe symptoms and 40% cause none at all, of course, you’re going to find people who died from gunshots wounds, road accidents, and every other normally occurring cause of death comprising a lot or even the vast majority of COVID-19’s official death tally.​

​

Dying WITH the virus is being intentionally conflated with dying FROM it.​

​

So is dying WITHOUT it:​

​

Factor 2. The CDC has officially directed physicians to put COVID-19 on death certificates even without any confirming test so long as they’ve “assumed” the deceased had it.​

​

A March 24 Q&A-style memo from the CDC instructing doctors on how to fill out death certificates was explicit:​

Q: Should “COVID-19” be reported on the death certificate only with a confirmed test?​

A: COVID-19 should be reported on the death certificate for all decedents where the disease caused or is assumed to have caused or contributed to death.​

No reason for the “assumption” is required. And the emphasis at the end isn’t even mine. It’s the CDC’s.​

​

Moreover, notice that doctors don’t even need to “assume” the deceased wouldn’t have died but for contracting the virus. Assuming it was merely a contributing factor is sufficient to mean not only that they can but that they should cite it.​

​

So the mere assumption that COVID-19 hastened the death of someone suffering from some other mortal ailment by a few days or even a few minutes is good enough.​

​

Adding people who die to COVID-19’s death tally is being encouraged not just without a test but without any medical justification whatsoever.​

​

It also pays well:​

​

Factor 3. Hospitals are being reimbursed for treating any uninsured patients they diagnose with COVID-19. Medicare is also paying out more when the COVID-19-box is checked.​

​

So, on top of directives that guarantee a lot of death certificates are identifying COVID-19 as a cause even though the patient would have died without it and in many cases likely never even had it, there are also enormous financial incentives to create more.​

​

As Dr. Scott Jensen, told Laura Ingraham way back on April 9:​

If that COVID-19 patient goes on a ventilator, you get $39,000; three times as much. Nobody can tell me, after 35 years in the world of medicine, that sometimes those kinds of things [don’t have an] impact on what we do.​

In other words, when you incentivize something – whether it’s solar power, illegitimacy, or false medical diagnoses – you get more of it.​

​

The question isn’t whether COVID-19’s fatality numbers are inflated. It’s by how much.​

​

Given the factors listed above – just as the results of examing those 589 deaths in Florida suggested – the true number can’t be anywhere close to what we’re hearing.​

​

Moreover, some overlooked data from New York City – which at present accounts for around 15% of all reported U.S. fatalities – provides another reason to think the number of bogus reported deaths may dwarf the number of real ones.​

​

For a while New York was examining their list of fatalities to determine if decedents had any other serious medical conditions and releasing updated results daily. For whatever reason, the last day on which they did so appears to be May 17. But as of then, of the 12,667 reported COVID-19 deaths for which they were able to determine whether other comorbidities were present, only 96 failed to have any.​

That means that over 99.2 percent were suffering from at least one of the following ailments: Diabetes, Lung Disease, Cancer, Immunodeficiency, Heart Disease, Hypertension, Asthma, Kidney Disease, GI/Liver Disease, or Obesity.

Many likely had several of them.

In order to know what exactly to make of these results, we’d need to know how many suffered from ailments serious enough to cause death in the near term regardless of COVID-19. But, given that there are bound to be some cases in which comorbidities went undetected, 99.2% is basically all of them.

Bripat has been inducted into the Knucklehead Hall of Fame

 

[Slade3200]

Other way around slinky. Stop posting alt-right propaganda. It won't make it go away.

New MIT study says actual number of coronavirus cases is 12 times higher than reported — with 50 percent more deaths

The authors further note that millions of infections could have been prevented if governments had alerted the public earlier and worked to contain the virus before mass outbreaks occurred.

thehill.com

Propaganda.

That’s what people who aren’t conspiratorial fringe say about your original post.

The death statistics are bogus. That much is obvious.

There is 1 major factor inflating COVID deaths and it is this retarded movement trying to discredit the seriousness of it. Fighting against wearing masks, social distancing, quarantines, testing, and acting like the whole thing is a hoax. That’s why our problems persist and why we aren’t in control like other major countries. You picked the wrong fight this time and you’re perpetuating the problem that we all want to see go away.

Quarantine the sick .......not the healthy...........protect the ones vulnerable.....not the ones who it hardly effects at all............All we have done is prolong this situation THAT WILL RUN IT'S COURSE......and destroy the economy..................

Until Mother Nature is done with us..........this will continue..........And there isn't a damned thing you can do about it......and a cloth mask doesn't do shit.

You do understand that the “healthy” are out there spreading it, right?

This is why testing and contact tracing and distancing is so important

Those are important so Dim douchebags can run this country like a police state, and for no other reason.

No those are important to slow the spread smart guy. Unfortunately we have an idiot like yourself in the White House so this stupidity is festering throughout our country which is why the virus is still out of control after all these months. Time for the kids to go to their room and for the grown ups to handle things.

If we had just kept granny indoors and let the virus run it's course, this whole thing would have been over two months ago.

It is true the your stupidity is festering throughout our country. Otherwise, we would have never had a shutdown.

That’s complete bullshit pulled directly out of your ass. You did see what happened in Italy didn’t you?

Check Sweden, dumbass.

Checked... great example of what not to do

That's exactly what we should have done. COVID is still lingering on in South Korea.

Sweden never hit herd immunity smart guy. The last numbers came in at under 10%. Yet their death rate is amping at the highest in the world and the death count 5x higher than surrounding Nordic countries... the cherry on top is that their economy bombed some as the others.

Great example man, great example. Let’s be like them!

 

[bripat9643]

The official statistics on COVID deaths are a scam.

We've Known for Months 3 Factors Are Massively Inflating COVID's Fatality Count. Trump Needs to Appoint a Commission to Find Out the Truth​

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .​

​

Few Americans know that a local CBS affiliate examined 589 alleged Palm Beach, Florida fatalities and discovered that far less than a third (169) had actually died of the virus.​

​

Most are unaware that the COVID-19 death tally they’ve been terrorized with for months has included motor-cycle fatalities and gunshot victims.​

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .​

Factor 1. Anyone who dies and is diagnosed with COVID-19 gets put on the fatality list regardless of how mild their symptoms were or any proof that something else was the real culprit. ​

​

According to Coronavirus Task Force coordinator, Dr. Birx herself:​

If someone dies with COVID-19, we are counting that as a COVID-19 death.​

The unofficial mascot of our response to COVID-19, Dr. Fauci said:​

I can’t imagine if someone comes in with coronavirus, goes to an ICU, and they have an underlying heart condition and they die—they’re going to say, ‘Cause of death: heart attack.’ I cannot see that happening.​

For whatever reason, the bureaucrats in charge have decided on guidelines that are bound to add a lot of people who would have died of some other cause anyway to COVID-19’s death tally. They haven’t just admitted it; they’ve bragged of it.​

​

Given that 80% of COVID-19 infections don’t cause severe symptoms and 40% cause none at all, of course, you’re going to find people who died from gunshots wounds, road accidents, and every other normally occurring cause of death comprising a lot or even the vast majority of COVID-19’s official death tally.​

​

Dying WITH the virus is being intentionally conflated with dying FROM it.​

​

So is dying WITHOUT it:​

​

Factor 2. The CDC has officially directed physicians to put COVID-19 on death certificates even without any confirming test so long as they’ve “assumed” the deceased had it.​

​

A March 24 Q&A-style memo from the CDC instructing doctors on how to fill out death certificates was explicit:​

Q: Should “COVID-19” be reported on the death certificate only with a confirmed test?​

A: COVID-19 should be reported on the death certificate for all decedents where the disease caused or is assumed to have caused or contributed to death.​

No reason for the “assumption” is required. And the emphasis at the end isn’t even mine. It’s the CDC’s.​

​

Moreover, notice that doctors don’t even need to “assume” the deceased wouldn’t have died but for contracting the virus. Assuming it was merely a contributing factor is sufficient to mean not only that they can but that they should cite it.​

​

So the mere assumption that COVID-19 hastened the death of someone suffering from some other mortal ailment by a few days or even a few minutes is good enough.​

​

Adding people who die to COVID-19’s death tally is being encouraged not just without a test but without any medical justification whatsoever.​

​

It also pays well:​

​

Factor 3. Hospitals are being reimbursed for treating any uninsured patients they diagnose with COVID-19. Medicare is also paying out more when the COVID-19-box is checked.​

​

So, on top of directives that guarantee a lot of death certificates are identifying COVID-19 as a cause even though the patient would have died without it and in many cases likely never even had it, there are also enormous financial incentives to create more.​

​

As Dr. Scott Jensen, told Laura Ingraham way back on April 9:​

If that COVID-19 patient goes on a ventilator, you get $39,000; three times as much. Nobody can tell me, after 35 years in the world of medicine, that sometimes those kinds of things [don’t have an] impact on what we do.​

In other words, when you incentivize something – whether it’s solar power, illegitimacy, or false medical diagnoses – you get more of it.​

​

The question isn’t whether COVID-19’s fatality numbers are inflated. It’s by how much.​

​

Given the factors listed above – just as the results of examing those 589 deaths in Florida suggested – the true number can’t be anywhere close to what we’re hearing.​

​

Moreover, some overlooked data from New York City – which at present accounts for around 15% of all reported U.S. fatalities – provides another reason to think the number of bogus reported deaths may dwarf the number of real ones.​

​

For a while New York was examining their list of fatalities to determine if decedents had any other serious medical conditions and releasing updated results daily. For whatever reason, the last day on which they did so appears to be May 17. But as of then, of the 12,667 reported COVID-19 deaths for which they were able to determine whether other comorbidities were present, only 96 failed to have any.​

That means that over 99.2 percent were suffering from at least one of the following ailments: Diabetes, Lung Disease, Cancer, Immunodeficiency, Heart Disease, Hypertension, Asthma, Kidney Disease, GI/Liver Disease, or Obesity.

Many likely had several of them.

In order to know what exactly to make of these results, we’d need to know how many suffered from ailments serious enough to cause death in the near term regardless of COVID-19. But, given that there are bound to be some cases in which comorbidities went undetected, 99.2% is basically all of them.

Bripat has been inducted into the Knucklehead Hall of Fame

You can't stand people who post the facts, can you?

 

[eagle1462010]

Other way around slinky. Stop posting alt-right propaganda. It won't make it go away.

New MIT study says actual number of coronavirus cases is 12 times higher than reported — with 50 percent more deaths

The authors further note that millions of infections could have been prevented if governments had alerted the public earlier and worked to contain the virus before mass outbreaks occurred.

thehill.com

Propaganda.

That’s what people who aren’t conspiratorial fringe say about your original post.

The death statistics are bogus. That much is obvious.

There is 1 major factor inflating COVID deaths and it is this retarded movement trying to discredit the seriousness of it. Fighting against wearing masks, social distancing, quarantines, testing, and acting like the whole thing is a hoax. That’s why our problems persist and why we aren’t in control like other major countries. You picked the wrong fight this time and you’re perpetuating the problem that we all want to see go away.

Quarantine the sick .......not the healthy...........protect the ones vulnerable.....not the ones who it hardly effects at all............All we have done is prolong this situation THAT WILL RUN IT'S COURSE......and destroy the economy..................

Until Mother Nature is done with us..........this will continue..........And there isn't a damned thing you can do about it......and a cloth mask doesn't do shit.

You do understand that the “healthy” are out there spreading it, right?

This is why testing and contact tracing and distancing is so important

Contact tracing is a joke......once pandora's box is open............it's STUPIDITY IN MOTION.........You might isolate a few.......but you CAN NOT STOP EXPONENTIAL GROWTH...........If you think you can stop this virus........then I want whatever you are smoking ........You need to share that shit.

Healthy spreading it.........who don't know thye have it....in massive numbers......no shit sherlock.......but they get it and don't pass it anymore and the RO rate goes below 1 and this shit goes away.......

We have only made this last longer......nothing more.......the shut downs were USELESS.

I’m smoking the same shit they smoke in South Korea where they have no more death and people are back in the stands enjoying baseball. How did they do that?!

lol

You tell me........did they use a superman pill and say WE ARE IMMUNE........LOL

The virus moves and we don't know if it's over there yet........we also don't know how many really got it there either............just like we don't really know here.....

Have South Korea do a anitbody and T cell test for a large sample of the population and get back to me.............I'll bet that a WHOLE LOT GOT IT that didn't even know it.

 

[colfax_m]

Herman Cain's death...how many in the liberal news media bothered to note the guy had colon cancer that had spread to his liver and his immune system was compromised? Instead the SPIN was Trump killed Cain.

So what? Are you saying Cain died of colon cancer or what?

This is how stupid Democrats are. You can't process that a combination of factors could have caused his death. His system was weaker because of his cancer, but he also had the Biden virus. The combination was too much for him.

But in your typical black and white leftist style, it has to be one or the other. You can't process there being a combination of factors. You're just flat out too bigoted and biased and you're not smart enough to realize there could be multiple causes for something

colfax says: So which is it, black or white? Answer the question. It's either black or white. So which one?

But for COVID, Herman Cain would be alive today.

Therefore, cause of death includes COVID and it is rightly counted in the statistics. Same for nearly every other death reported.

Maybe ......maybe not............Cancer kills quickly at times...........My Sister N law went very quick from it.......

either way.......by definition ........they have purposely JACKED UP THE NUMBERS.....so people like you use the stats for FEAR MONGERING

Cain’s cancer diagnosis was in 2006. He’s been in remission for about a decade. I’d be extremely skeptical that his prior diagnosis has anything to do with his death.

Okay Doctor colfax tell us what cancer meds he was on and other health issues he had.

He wasn’t on cancer meds. He was in remission.

Again ...

https://www.cancer.org/treatment/treatments-and-side-effects/physical-side-effects/low-blood-counts/infections/why-people-with-cancer-are-at-risk.html

I read it. What part of it do you think applies to Herman Cain?

Don’t just wave a link around. Paste the text you think shows your point.

The whole article talks about how cancer survivors immune system is weakened.

This is EXACTLY as I said, you have no honor. You're not a man. I proved you wrong and you don't have the balls to simply say wow, you were wrong. The cancer did clearly impact Cain's ability to survive the Biden virus

It doesn’t refer to cancer survivors. It refers to cancer patients.

There’s a huge difference.

From the first line:
Why People with Cancer are More Likely to Get Infections

Cain was not a person “with cancer”. Are you going to admit you misrepresented it?

He had cancer, it was just in remission. Do you understand the difference or do you need to check with a Democrat before you answer, no man?

There’s difference, especially depending on the type of malignancy. Physicians are loath to say someone has been cured, rather say no evidence of recurrence for example. They’re rarely ever 100% on anything. But the longer a malignancy, especially solid tumors, are without recurrence, the more likely they are cured. 10 years is long enough for most cancers to no longer require surveillance.

So again, the idea that his malignancy was the cause of his death is absurd. That’s where this “dying from COVID” vs “dying with COVID” gets a little loony.

 

[bripat9643]

Other way around slinky. Stop posting alt-right propaganda. It won't make it go away.

New MIT study says actual number of coronavirus cases is 12 times higher than reported — with 50 percent more deaths

The authors further note that millions of infections could have been prevented if governments had alerted the public earlier and worked to contain the virus before mass outbreaks occurred.

thehill.com

Propaganda.

That’s what people who aren’t conspiratorial fringe say about your original post.

The death statistics are bogus. That much is obvious.

There is 1 major factor inflating COVID deaths and it is this retarded movement trying to discredit the seriousness of it. Fighting against wearing masks, social distancing, quarantines, testing, and acting like the whole thing is a hoax. That’s why our problems persist and why we aren’t in control like other major countries. You picked the wrong fight this time and you’re perpetuating the problem that we all want to see go away.

Quarantine the sick .......not the healthy...........protect the ones vulnerable.....not the ones who it hardly effects at all............All we have done is prolong this situation THAT WILL RUN IT'S COURSE......and destroy the economy..................

Until Mother Nature is done with us..........this will continue..........And there isn't a damned thing you can do about it......and a cloth mask doesn't do shit.

You do understand that the “healthy” are out there spreading it, right?

This is why testing and contact tracing and distancing is so important

Those are important so Dim douchebags can run this country like a police state, and for no other reason.

No those are important to slow the spread smart guy. Unfortunately we have an idiot like yourself in the White House so this stupidity is festering throughout our country which is why the virus is still out of control after all these months. Time for the kids to go to their room and for the grown ups to handle things.

If we had just kept granny indoors and let the virus run it's course, this whole thing would have been over two months ago.

It is true the your stupidity is festering throughout our country. Otherwise, we would have never had a shutdown.

That’s complete bullshit pulled directly out of your ass. You did see what happened in Italy didn’t you?

Check Sweden, dumbass.

Checked... great example of what not to do

That's exactly what we should have done. COVID is still lingering on in South Korea.

Sweden never hit herd immunity smart guy. The last numbers came in at under 10%. Yet their death rate is amping at the highest in the world and the death count 5x higher than surrounding Nordic countries... the cherry on top is that their economy bombed some as the others.

Great example man, great example. Let’s be like them!

Their death rate is approaching zero, moron.

 

[meaner gene]

I'm not sure that traffic deaths or other accidents are the ones that would confuse the death totals. Then again your answer to that depends on what helps Democrats the most since you have no honor

Accidents accounted for about 2,000 fatalities per month, while the coronavirus accounted for 30,000 fatalities per month. Even if every death from accidents were included in the coronavirus numbers (which they certainly weren't) that would only be 7%.

The coronavirus death count would still be well over 140,000.

 

[Slade3200]

Other way around slinky. Stop posting alt-right propaganda. It won't make it go away.

New MIT study says actual number of coronavirus cases is 12 times higher than reported — with 50 percent more deaths

The authors further note that millions of infections could have been prevented if governments had alerted the public earlier and worked to contain the virus before mass outbreaks occurred.

thehill.com

Propaganda.

That’s what people who aren’t conspiratorial fringe say about your original post.

The death statistics are bogus. That much is obvious.

There is 1 major factor inflating COVID deaths and it is this retarded movement trying to discredit the seriousness of it. Fighting against wearing masks, social distancing, quarantines, testing, and acting like the whole thing is a hoax. That’s why our problems persist and why we aren’t in control like other major countries. You picked the wrong fight this time and you’re perpetuating the problem that we all want to see go away.

Quarantine the sick .......not the healthy...........protect the ones vulnerable.....not the ones who it hardly effects at all............All we have done is prolong this situation THAT WILL RUN IT'S COURSE......and destroy the economy..................

Until Mother Nature is done with us..........this will continue..........And there isn't a damned thing you can do about it......and a cloth mask doesn't do shit.

You do understand that the “healthy” are out there spreading it, right?

This is why testing and contact tracing and distancing is so important

Contact tracing is a joke......once pandora's box is open............it's STUPIDITY IN MOTION.........You might isolate a few.......but you CAN NOT STOP EXPONENTIAL GROWTH...........If you think you can stop this virus........then I want whatever you are smoking ........You need to share that shit.

Healthy spreading it.........who don't know thye have it....in massive numbers......no shit sherlock.......but they get it and don't pass it anymore and the RO rate goes below 1 and this shit goes away.......

We have only made this last longer......nothing more.......the shut downs were USELESS.

You’re not very good at math are you? You realize we have over 300 million people in this country right?

Which has nothing to do with anything in his post.

You must not understand math either. I’m not surprised.

a pretty basic equation can tell you what would happen to our medical system and death count with a faster spread of the virus. If numbers give you a headache you can look at Italy as an example.

 

[eagle1462010]

Other way around slinky. Stop posting alt-right propaganda. It won't make it go away.

New MIT study says actual number of coronavirus cases is 12 times higher than reported — with 50 percent more deaths

The authors further note that millions of infections could have been prevented if governments had alerted the public earlier and worked to contain the virus before mass outbreaks occurred.

thehill.com

Propaganda.

That’s what people who aren’t conspiratorial fringe say about your original post.

The death statistics are bogus. That much is obvious.

There is 1 major factor inflating COVID deaths and it is this retarded movement trying to discredit the seriousness of it. Fighting against wearing masks, social distancing, quarantines, testing, and acting like the whole thing is a hoax. That’s why our problems persist and why we aren’t in control like other major countries. You picked the wrong fight this time and you’re perpetuating the problem that we all want to see go away.

Quarantine the sick .......not the healthy...........protect the ones vulnerable.....not the ones who it hardly effects at all............All we have done is prolong this situation THAT WILL RUN IT'S COURSE......and destroy the economy..................

Until Mother Nature is done with us..........this will continue..........And there isn't a damned thing you can do about it......and a cloth mask doesn't do shit.

You do understand that the “healthy” are out there spreading it, right?

This is why testing and contact tracing and distancing is so important

Contact tracing is a joke......once pandora's box is open............it's STUPIDITY IN MOTION.........You might isolate a few.......but you CAN NOT STOP EXPONENTIAL GROWTH...........If you think you can stop this virus........then I want whatever you are smoking ........You need to share that shit.

Healthy spreading it.........who don't know thye have it....in massive numbers......no shit sherlock.......but they get it and don't pass it anymore and the RO rate goes below 1 and this shit goes away.......

We have only made this last longer......nothing more.......the shut downs were USELESS.

You’re not very good at math are you? You realize we have over 300 million people in this country right?

Yeah............sooo...........I'm very good at math........and those saying how many have to get it to get Herd immunity are not consistent...........

Now tell me the math on exponential growth......and how the hell you stop it once it's loose..........YOU DON'T.........so USELESS.

 

[bripat9643]

Other way around slinky. Stop posting alt-right propaganda. It won't make it go away.

New MIT study says actual number of coronavirus cases is 12 times higher than reported — with 50 percent more deaths

The authors further note that millions of infections could have been prevented if governments had alerted the public earlier and worked to contain the virus before mass outbreaks occurred.

thehill.com

Propaganda.

That’s what people who aren’t conspiratorial fringe say about your original post.

The death statistics are bogus. That much is obvious.

There is 1 major factor inflating COVID deaths and it is this retarded movement trying to discredit the seriousness of it. Fighting against wearing masks, social distancing, quarantines, testing, and acting like the whole thing is a hoax. That’s why our problems persist and why we aren’t in control like other major countries. You picked the wrong fight this time and you’re perpetuating the problem that we all want to see go away.

Quarantine the sick .......not the healthy...........protect the ones vulnerable.....not the ones who it hardly effects at all............All we have done is prolong this situation THAT WILL RUN IT'S COURSE......and destroy the economy..................

Until Mother Nature is done with us..........this will continue..........And there isn't a damned thing you can do about it......and a cloth mask doesn't do shit.

You do understand that the “healthy” are out there spreading it, right?

This is why testing and contact tracing and distancing is so important

Contact tracing is a joke......once pandora's box is open............it's STUPIDITY IN MOTION.........You might isolate a few.......but you CAN NOT STOP EXPONENTIAL GROWTH...........If you think you can stop this virus........then I want whatever you are smoking ........You need to share that shit.

Healthy spreading it.........who don't know thye have it....in massive numbers......no shit sherlock.......but they get it and don't pass it anymore and the RO rate goes below 1 and this shit goes away.......

We have only made this last longer......nothing more.......the shut downs were USELESS.

You’re not very good at math are you? You realize we have over 300 million people in this country right?

Which has nothing to do with anything in his post.

You must not understand math either. I’m not surprised.

a pretty basic equation can tell you what would happen to our medical system and death count with a faster spread of the virus. If numbers give you a headache you can look at Italy as an example.

However, you failed to post that equation or any data to feed into it. You simply spouted "300 million!" as if that was relevant to something.

 

[eddiew]

The official statistics on COVID deaths are a scam.

We've Known for Months 3 Factors Are Massively Inflating COVID's Fatality Count. Trump Needs to Appoint a Commission to Find Out the Truth​

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .​

​

Few Americans know that a local CBS affiliate examined 589 alleged Palm Beach, Florida fatalities and discovered that far less than a third (169) had actually died of the virus.​

​

Most are unaware that the COVID-19 death tally they’ve been terrorized with for months has included motor-cycle fatalities and gunshot victims.​

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .​

Factor 1. Anyone who dies and is diagnosed with COVID-19 gets put on the fatality list regardless of how mild their symptoms were or any proof that something else was the real culprit. ​

​

According to Coronavirus Task Force coordinator, Dr. Birx herself:​

If someone dies with COVID-19, we are counting that as a COVID-19 death.​

The unofficial mascot of our response to COVID-19, Dr. Fauci said:​

I can’t imagine if someone comes in with coronavirus, goes to an ICU, and they have an underlying heart condition and they die—they’re going to say, ‘Cause of death: heart attack.’ I cannot see that happening.​

For whatever reason, the bureaucrats in charge have decided on guidelines that are bound to add a lot of people who would have died of some other cause anyway to COVID-19’s death tally. They haven’t just admitted it; they’ve bragged of it.​

​

Given that 80% of COVID-19 infections don’t cause severe symptoms and 40% cause none at all, of course, you’re going to find people who died from gunshots wounds, road accidents, and every other normally occurring cause of death comprising a lot or even the vast majority of COVID-19’s official death tally.​

​

Dying WITH the virus is being intentionally conflated with dying FROM it.​

​

So is dying WITHOUT it:​

​

Factor 2. The CDC has officially directed physicians to put COVID-19 on death certificates even without any confirming test so long as they’ve “assumed” the deceased had it.​

​

A March 24 Q&A-style memo from the CDC instructing doctors on how to fill out death certificates was explicit:​

Q: Should “COVID-19” be reported on the death certificate only with a confirmed test?​

A: COVID-19 should be reported on the death certificate for all decedents where the disease caused or is assumed to have caused or contributed to death.​

No reason for the “assumption” is required. And the emphasis at the end isn’t even mine. It’s the CDC’s.​

​

Moreover, notice that doctors don’t even need to “assume” the deceased wouldn’t have died but for contracting the virus. Assuming it was merely a contributing factor is sufficient to mean not only that they can but that they should cite it.​

​

So the mere assumption that COVID-19 hastened the death of someone suffering from some other mortal ailment by a few days or even a few minutes is good enough.​

​

Adding people who die to COVID-19’s death tally is being encouraged not just without a test but without any medical justification whatsoever.​

​

It also pays well:​

​

Factor 3. Hospitals are being reimbursed for treating any uninsured patients they diagnose with COVID-19. Medicare is also paying out more when the COVID-19-box is checked.​

​

So, on top of directives that guarantee a lot of death certificates are identifying COVID-19 as a cause even though the patient would have died without it and in many cases likely never even had it, there are also enormous financial incentives to create more.​

​

As Dr. Scott Jensen, told Laura Ingraham way back on April 9:​

If that COVID-19 patient goes on a ventilator, you get $39,000; three times as much. Nobody can tell me, after 35 years in the world of medicine, that sometimes those kinds of things [don’t have an] impact on what we do.​

In other words, when you incentivize something – whether it’s solar power, illegitimacy, or false medical diagnoses – you get more of it.​

​

The question isn’t whether COVID-19’s fatality numbers are inflated. It’s by how much.​

​

Given the factors listed above – just as the results of examing those 589 deaths in Florida suggested – the true number can’t be anywhere close to what we’re hearing.​

​

Moreover, some overlooked data from New York City – which at present accounts for around 15% of all reported U.S. fatalities – provides another reason to think the number of bogus reported deaths may dwarf the number of real ones.​

​

For a while New York was examining their list of fatalities to determine if decedents had any other serious medical conditions and releasing updated results daily. For whatever reason, the last day on which they did so appears to be May 17. But as of then, of the 12,667 reported COVID-19 deaths for which they were able to determine whether other comorbidities were present, only 96 failed to have any.​

That means that over 99.2 percent were suffering from at least one of the following ailments: Diabetes, Lung Disease, Cancer, Immunodeficiency, Heart Disease, Hypertension, Asthma, Kidney Disease, GI/Liver Disease, or Obesity.

Many likely had several of them.

In order to know what exactly to make of these results, we’d need to know how many suffered from ailments serious enough to cause death in the near term regardless of COVID-19. But, given that there are bound to be some cases in which comorbidities went undetected, 99.2% is basically all of them.

Bripat has been inducted into the Knucklehead Hall of Fame

You won't be alone bri don't worry Eagle Un Lanturn Blues Red polak will join you

 

[bripat9643]

Other way around slinky. Stop posting alt-right propaganda. It won't make it go away.

New MIT study says actual number of coronavirus cases is 12 times higher than reported — with 50 percent more deaths

The authors further note that millions of infections could have been prevented if governments had alerted the public earlier and worked to contain the virus before mass outbreaks occurred.

thehill.com

Propaganda.

That’s what people who aren’t conspiratorial fringe say about your original post.

The death statistics are bogus. That much is obvious.

There is 1 major factor inflating COVID deaths and it is this retarded movement trying to discredit the seriousness of it. Fighting against wearing masks, social distancing, quarantines, testing, and acting like the whole thing is a hoax. That’s why our problems persist and why we aren’t in control like other major countries. You picked the wrong fight this time and you’re perpetuating the problem that we all want to see go away.

Quarantine the sick .......not the healthy...........protect the ones vulnerable.....not the ones who it hardly effects at all............All we have done is prolong this situation THAT WILL RUN IT'S COURSE......and destroy the economy..................

Until Mother Nature is done with us..........this will continue..........And there isn't a damned thing you can do about it......and a cloth mask doesn't do shit.

You do understand that the “healthy” are out there spreading it, right?

This is why testing and contact tracing and distancing is so important

Contact tracing is a joke......once pandora's box is open............it's STUPIDITY IN MOTION.........You might isolate a few.......but you CAN NOT STOP EXPONENTIAL GROWTH...........If you think you can stop this virus........then I want whatever you are smoking ........You need to share that shit.

Healthy spreading it.........who don't know thye have it....in massive numbers......no shit sherlock.......but they get it and don't pass it anymore and the RO rate goes below 1 and this shit goes away.......

We have only made this last longer......nothing more.......the shut downs were USELESS.

You’re not very good at math are you? You realize we have over 300 million people in this country right?

Which has nothing to do with anything in his post.

You must not understand math either. I’m not surprised.

a pretty basic equation can tell you what would happen to our medical system and death count with a faster spread of the virus. If numbers give you a headache you can look at Italy as an example.

More DNC talking points.

 

[meaner gene]

If we had just kept granny indoors and let the virus run it's course, this whole thing would have been over two months ago.

You must realize the average ICU time of people who recover from the coronavirus, would have pushed ICU's well beyond capacity, meaning that medical resources would have had to be rationed by "death panels"

Fact not in evidence.

The ICU's in Texas and Florida are near capacity, and that's with the states on partial lockdown. If you remove the lockdown the ICU's would be well beyond capacity. That's just a fact. The governors of both states have said that.

 

[Slade3200]

Other way around slinky. Stop posting alt-right propaganda. It won't make it go away.

New MIT study says actual number of coronavirus cases is 12 times higher than reported — with 50 percent more deaths

The authors further note that millions of infections could have been prevented if governments had alerted the public earlier and worked to contain the virus before mass outbreaks occurred.

thehill.com

Propaganda.

That’s what people who aren’t conspiratorial fringe say about your original post.

The death statistics are bogus. That much is obvious.

There is 1 major factor inflating COVID deaths and it is this retarded movement trying to discredit the seriousness of it. Fighting against wearing masks, social distancing, quarantines, testing, and acting like the whole thing is a hoax. That’s why our problems persist and why we aren’t in control like other major countries. You picked the wrong fight this time and you’re perpetuating the problem that we all want to see go away.

Quarantine the sick .......not the healthy...........protect the ones vulnerable.....not the ones who it hardly effects at all............All we have done is prolong this situation THAT WILL RUN IT'S COURSE......and destroy the economy..................

Until Mother Nature is done with us..........this will continue..........And there isn't a damned thing you can do about it......and a cloth mask doesn't do shit.

You do understand that the “healthy” are out there spreading it, right?

This is why testing and contact tracing and distancing is so important

Those are important so Dim douchebags can run this country like a police state, and for no other reason.

No those are important to slow the spread smart guy. Unfortunately we have an idiot like yourself in the White House so this stupidity is festering throughout our country which is why the virus is still out of control after all these months. Time for the kids to go to their room and for the grown ups to handle things.

If we had just kept granny indoors and let the virus run it's course, this whole thing would have been over two months ago.

It is true the your stupidity is festering throughout our country. Otherwise, we would have never had a shutdown.

That’s complete bullshit pulled directly out of your ass. You did see what happened in Italy didn’t you?

Check Sweden, dumbass.

Checked... great example of what not to do

That's exactly what we should have done. COVID is still lingering on in South Korea.

Sweden never hit herd immunity smart guy. The last numbers came in at under 10%. Yet their death rate is amping at the highest in the world and the death count 5x higher than surrounding Nordic countries... the cherry on top is that their economy bombed some as the others.

Great example man, great example. Let’s be like them!

Their death rate is approaching zero, moron.

Not because of herd immunity.

Other way around slinky. Stop posting alt-right propaganda. It won't make it go away.

New MIT study says actual number of coronavirus cases is 12 times higher than reported — with 50 percent more deaths

The authors further note that millions of infections could have been prevented if governments had alerted the public earlier and worked to contain the virus before mass outbreaks occurred.

thehill.com

Propaganda.

That’s what people who aren’t conspiratorial fringe say about your original post.

The death statistics are bogus. That much is obvious.

There is 1 major factor inflating COVID deaths and it is this retarded movement trying to discredit the seriousness of it. Fighting against wearing masks, social distancing, quarantines, testing, and acting like the whole thing is a hoax. That’s why our problems persist and why we aren’t in control like other major countries. You picked the wrong fight this time and you’re perpetuating the problem that we all want to see go away.

Quarantine the sick .......not the healthy...........protect the ones vulnerable.....not the ones who it hardly effects at all............All we have done is prolong this situation THAT WILL RUN IT'S COURSE......and destroy the economy..................

Until Mother Nature is done with us..........this will continue..........And there isn't a damned thing you can do about it......and a cloth mask doesn't do shit.

You do understand that the “healthy” are out there spreading it, right?

This is why testing and contact tracing and distancing is so important

Contact tracing is a joke......once pandora's box is open............it's STUPIDITY IN MOTION.........You might isolate a few.......but you CAN NOT STOP EXPONENTIAL GROWTH...........If you think you can stop this virus........then I want whatever you are smoking ........You need to share that shit.

Healthy spreading it.........who don't know thye have it....in massive numbers......no shit sherlock.......but they get it and don't pass it anymore and the RO rate goes below 1 and this shit goes away.......

We have only made this last longer......nothing more.......the shut downs were USELESS.

I’m smoking the same shit they smoke in South Korea where they have no more death and people are back in the stands enjoying baseball. How did they do that?!

lol

You tell me........did they use a superman pill and say WE ARE IMMUNE........LOL

The virus moves and we don't know if it's over there yet........we also don't know how many really got it there either............just like we don't really know here.....

Have South Korea do a anitbody and T cell test for a large sample of the population and get back to me.............I'll bet that a WHOLE LOT GOT IT that didn't even know it.

I dont look at cases counts as much as I look at deaths. That’s a more reliable stat

 

[eagle1462010]

Contact tracing is a joke......once pandora's box is open............it's STUPIDITY IN MOTION.........You might isolate a few.......but you CAN NOT STOP EXPONENTIAL GROWTH...........If you think you can stop this virus........then I want whatever you are smoking ........You need to share that shit.

Contact tracing is a joke? Then why hasn't this country been overrun by uncontrolled sexually transmitted diseases?

In case you didn't know the answer, it's because of the health departments doing contact tracing.

I don't give a fuck...........there isn't any way they can control this spread once it's going........NO WAY IN HELL.........

If they could then they could stop the Flu and the common cold.........Contract tracing is BS.........

You protect the weak...the strong go forward............and hope it ends quickly.....so it stops the rate of spread and goes away....................

That is how it always works in history..........This will do the same.......only difference is THE FEAR MONGERING has screwed us far worse than the virus itself.............

In the end you go .........we are cured now..........problem is the dang dummy cut his leg off in the process.

The real pain is coming .......just in time for the elections......imagine that.

 

[Slade3200]

Other way around slinky. Stop posting alt-right propaganda. It won't make it go away.

New MIT study says actual number of coronavirus cases is 12 times higher than reported — with 50 percent more deaths

The authors further note that millions of infections could have been prevented if governments had alerted the public earlier and worked to contain the virus before mass outbreaks occurred.

thehill.com

Propaganda.

That’s what people who aren’t conspiratorial fringe say about your original post.

The death statistics are bogus. That much is obvious.

There is 1 major factor inflating COVID deaths and it is this retarded movement trying to discredit the seriousness of it. Fighting against wearing masks, social distancing, quarantines, testing, and acting like the whole thing is a hoax. That’s why our problems persist and why we aren’t in control like other major countries. You picked the wrong fight this time and you’re perpetuating the problem that we all want to see go away.

Quarantine the sick .......not the healthy...........protect the ones vulnerable.....not the ones who it hardly effects at all............All we have done is prolong this situation THAT WILL RUN IT'S COURSE......and destroy the economy..................

Until Mother Nature is done with us..........this will continue..........And there isn't a damned thing you can do about it......and a cloth mask doesn't do shit.

You do understand that the “healthy” are out there spreading it, right?

This is why testing and contact tracing and distancing is so important

Contact tracing is a joke......once pandora's box is open............it's STUPIDITY IN MOTION.........You might isolate a few.......but you CAN NOT STOP EXPONENTIAL GROWTH...........If you think you can stop this virus........then I want whatever you are smoking ........You need to share that shit.

Healthy spreading it.........who don't know thye have it....in massive numbers......no shit sherlock.......but they get it and don't pass it anymore and the RO rate goes below 1 and this shit goes away.......

We have only made this last longer......nothing more.......the shut downs were USELESS.

You’re not very good at math are you? You realize we have over 300 million people in this country right?

Which has nothing to do with anything in his post.

You must not understand math either. I’m not surprised.

a pretty basic equation can tell you what would happen to our medical system and death count with a faster spread of the virus. If numbers give you a headache you can look at Italy as an example.

More DNC talking points.

That’s what you say when you can’t provide a counter argument. I get it. Schooled

 

[bripat9643]

If we had just kept granny indoors and let the virus run it's course, this whole thing would have been over two months ago.

You must realize the average ICU time of people who recover from the coronavirus, would have pushed ICU's well beyond capacity, meaning that medical resources would have had to be rationed by "death panels"

Fact not in evidence.

The ICU's in Texas and Florida are near capacity, and that's with the states on partial lockdown. If you remove the lockdown the ICU's would be well beyond capacity. That's just a fact. The governors of both states have said that.

You're a TDS moron. I'm tired of reading your horseshit DNC talking points. How much is the DNC paying you to post in here?

 

[bripat9643]

Other way around slinky. Stop posting alt-right propaganda. It won't make it go away.

New MIT study says actual number of coronavirus cases is 12 times higher than reported — with 50 percent more deaths

The authors further note that millions of infections could have been prevented if governments had alerted the public earlier and worked to contain the virus before mass outbreaks occurred.

thehill.com

Propaganda.

That’s what people who aren’t conspiratorial fringe say about your original post.

The death statistics are bogus. That much is obvious.

There is 1 major factor inflating COVID deaths and it is this retarded movement trying to discredit the seriousness of it. Fighting against wearing masks, social distancing, quarantines, testing, and acting like the whole thing is a hoax. That’s why our problems persist and why we aren’t in control like other major countries. You picked the wrong fight this time and you’re perpetuating the problem that we all want to see go away.

Quarantine the sick .......not the healthy...........protect the ones vulnerable.....not the ones who it hardly effects at all............All we have done is prolong this situation THAT WILL RUN IT'S COURSE......and destroy the economy..................

Until Mother Nature is done with us..........this will continue..........And there isn't a damned thing you can do about it......and a cloth mask doesn't do shit.

You do understand that the “healthy” are out there spreading it, right?

This is why testing and contact tracing and distancing is so important

Those are important so Dim douchebags can run this country like a police state, and for no other reason.

No those are important to slow the spread smart guy. Unfortunately we have an idiot like yourself in the White House so this stupidity is festering throughout our country which is why the virus is still out of control after all these months. Time for the kids to go to their room and for the grown ups to handle things.

If we had just kept granny indoors and let the virus run it's course, this whole thing would have been over two months ago.

It is true the your stupidity is festering throughout our country. Otherwise, we would have never had a shutdown.

That’s complete bullshit pulled directly out of your ass. You did see what happened in Italy didn’t you?

Check Sweden, dumbass.

Checked... great example of what not to do

That's exactly what we should have done. COVID is still lingering on in South Korea.

Sweden never hit herd immunity smart guy. The last numbers came in at under 10%. Yet their death rate is amping at the highest in the world and the death count 5x higher than surrounding Nordic countries... the cherry on top is that their economy bombed some as the others.

Great example man, great example. Let’s be like them!

Their death rate is approaching zero, moron.

Not because of herd immunity.

Other way around slinky. Stop posting alt-right propaganda. It won't make it go away.

New MIT study says actual number of coronavirus cases is 12 times higher than reported — with 50 percent more deaths

The authors further note that millions of infections could have been prevented if governments had alerted the public earlier and worked to contain the virus before mass outbreaks occurred.

thehill.com

Propaganda.

That’s what people who aren’t conspiratorial fringe say about your original post.

The death statistics are bogus. That much is obvious.

There is 1 major factor inflating COVID deaths and it is this retarded movement trying to discredit the seriousness of it. Fighting against wearing masks, social distancing, quarantines, testing, and acting like the whole thing is a hoax. That’s why our problems persist and why we aren’t in control like other major countries. You picked the wrong fight this time and you’re perpetuating the problem that we all want to see go away.

Quarantine the sick .......not the healthy...........protect the ones vulnerable.....not the ones who it hardly effects at all............All we have done is prolong this situation THAT WILL RUN IT'S COURSE......and destroy the economy..................

Until Mother Nature is done with us..........this will continue..........And there isn't a damned thing you can do about it......and a cloth mask doesn't do shit.

You do understand that the “healthy” are out there spreading it, right?

This is why testing and contact tracing and distancing is so important

Contact tracing is a joke......once pandora's box is open............it's STUPIDITY IN MOTION.........You might isolate a few.......but you CAN NOT STOP EXPONENTIAL GROWTH...........If you think you can stop this virus........then I want whatever you are smoking ........You need to share that shit.

Healthy spreading it.........who don't know thye have it....in massive numbers......no shit sherlock.......but they get it and don't pass it anymore and the RO rate goes below 1 and this shit goes away.......

We have only made this last longer......nothing more.......the shut downs were USELESS.

I’m smoking the same shit they smoke in South Korea where they have no more death and people are back in the stands enjoying baseball. How did they do that?!

lol

You tell me........did they use a superman pill and say WE ARE IMMUNE........LOL

The virus moves and we don't know if it's over there yet........we also don't know how many really got it there either............just like we don't really know here.....

Have South Korea do a anitbody and T cell test for a large sample of the population and get back to me.............I'll bet that a WHOLE LOT GOT IT that didn't even know it.

I dont look at cases counts as much as I look at deaths. That’s a more reliable stat

Why should anyone believe you? How much is Biden paying you to post in here?

 

[eagle1462010]

I dont look at cases counts as much as I look at deaths. That’s a more reliable stat

Is it............The CDC definition allows ASSUME into the definition........and also better pay outs for uninsured under the Cares Act...........and more money from Medicare for Covid and a vent.........You really think the Hospitals aren't CASHING IN............LOL

Leave a money loop hole and they will take it every single time.