We’re number 37! USA USA USA!!

[CMike]

The ranking comes from the World Health Organization, the directing and coordinating authority for health within the United Nations system. I believe their ranking system covers the pertinent points and should be considered accurate.

Based on what criteria?

I'm not sure, but I would think that the criteria the WHO uses is what one would expect they should use, and I'm confident the criteria applies equally to each country..

I don't make such assumptions. Why would you assume that?

 

[WillowTree]

YouTube - "We're Number 37" - Paul Hipp

Go America!!!

What a clever way of getting the message across..Wish someone would have shown this @ Blair House yesterday.

wonder why that wandering canadian blasted his way down here to number 37 to have his heart surgery..

 

[WillowTree]

The ranking comes from the World Health Organization, the directing and coordinating authority for health within the United Nations system. I believe their ranking system covers the pertinent points and should be considered accurate.

Based on what criteria?

Based on surveys from each of the 193 member countries, on specific topics, illnesses and demographic date collected. Google the World Health Organization if you really care about the criteria.

The fact remains, the US, based on whatever criteria, is number 37. Rather than attack the messenger (WHO) a thinking, caring, intelligent, non-partisan would ask why? And, it goes without saying, but I will, that those who attack the messenger are non thinkers, uncaring, not too bright and wholly partisan.

so you of course will excape this shithole and go to country number uno,, for your health care?? I applaud you..

 

[Wry Catcher]

Based on what criteria?

Based on surveys from each of the 193 member countries, on specific topics, illnesses and demographic date collected. Google the World Health Organization if you really care about the criteria.

The fact remains, the US, based on whatever criteria, is number 37. Rather than attack the messenger (WHO) a thinking, caring, intelligent, non-partisan would ask why? And, it goes without saying, but I will, that those who attack the messenger are non thinkers, uncaring, not too bright and wholly partisan.

Based on whatever criteria is not an answer. I don't trust WHO and the international organizations.

That's why I am still asking based on what criteria?

Who do you trust?
As I suggested, go to their web site and read the material. First look at how they rated nations, the criteria is right there for you to read. If you have doubts about the ratings post them; that is something which can be debated.
I refuse to respond to what maybe nothing more than a question posted by someone who seems to believe the World Health Organization has an agenda to discredit the United States.

 

[WillowTree]

Makes a good point..

US is #1 in Aircraft Carriers
#1 in Nuclear weapons
#1 in Tanks

#37 in healthcare.

We do not blink an eye at spending $1.5 billion a week in Afganistan and Iraq....that is PATRIOTISM

But to spend money on the medical treatment for US citizens?.....That is SOCIALISM

Maybe we should stop spending 20 billion a year in foreign aid.

Good point. We should stop till we bring our shitty number 37 up to par.. Yes, you are a genius

 

[WillowTree]

You can thank government run Medicare fraud for that.

HOw about Medicaid also??

Oh I know Medicaid is even worse. This thanksgiving I was at a dinner where this teen pregnant with twins on Welfare & Medicaid had a few contractions after traveling to get there, drinking Coffee, stuffing her face with deserts & going outside to smoke some Cigarettes. Now she had already been to several Medicaid doctors who put her on bed rest & band her from smoking to prevent premature births. Now her friend calls the teens doctor & 20 minutes later here comes a helicopter & takes her to a university hospital. They C-section the babies both under 2-lbs & have had them hospitalized every since. So far the bill is $750,000.00 which would deliver & care for 24 for regular babies in the real world. Since the government is paying all prevention caution has been thrown to the wind & no price is to high. NOW TELL ME AGAIN YOU LYING LIBTARDS HOW WE HAVE CRAPPY COVERAGE IN THIS COUNTRY!!!

remember otcopussy? how much did her 16 kids cost us?

 

[CMike]

Based on surveys from each of the 193 member countries, on specific topics, illnesses and demographic date collected. Google the World Health Organization if you really care about the criteria.

The fact remains, the US, based on whatever criteria, is number 37. Rather than attack the messenger (WHO) a thinking, caring, intelligent, non-partisan would ask why? And, it goes without saying, but I will, that those who attack the messenger are non thinkers, uncaring, not too bright and wholly partisan.

Based on whatever criteria is not an answer. I don't trust WHO and the international organizations.

That's why I am still asking based on what criteria?

Who do you trust?
As I suggested, go to their web site and read the material. First look at how they rated nations, the criteria is right there for you to read. If you have doubts about the ratings post them; that is something which can be debated.
I refuse to respond to what maybe nothing more than a question posted by someone who seems to believe the World Health Organization has an agenda to discredit the United States.

I asked a very basic question. If the OP is going to make this claim, then asking based on what criteria is very legitimate question.

And no I am not going to research that answer. I am not the one making the claim.

 

[Wry Catcher]

Based on what criteria?

Based on surveys from each of the 193 member countries, on specific topics, illnesses and demographic date collected. Google the World Health Organization if you really care about the criteria.

The fact remains, the US, based on whatever criteria, is number 37. Rather than attack the messenger (WHO) a thinking, caring, intelligent, non-partisan would ask why? And, it goes without saying, but I will, that those who attack the messenger are non thinkers, uncaring, not too bright and wholly partisan.

so you of course will excape this shithole and go to country number uno,, for your health care?? I applaud you..

Of course not. My wife and I are in fine financial shape, and we have comprehensive health care which includes meds and very, very modest co-pays.
The fact WT is that the cost for health care in our nation has become a burden for business and government, too much of our GDP goes to too few; too many Americans suffer needlessly and too little preventative care is available to the working poor.

 

[Vanquish]

Wonder why no other nation is modeling their health care after the US?

Funny you should ask. While dimwits in the US drool over the socialized European and Canadian models, those countries have been adding US-style components to their systems in a quiet admission that they're screwing the pooch. And as soon as that info comes to light about one of them, you geniuses on the left go traipsing off to worship at the feet of someone else, only to repeat the same cycle.

What is it they say about doing the same thing over and over, expecting different results? Sign of insanity, isn't it?

Another sign of insanity is your post above. You can state something (i.e. "countries have been adding US-style components to their systems") but unless you cite to a source and back it up....who the FUCK is going to believe you?

Uhm...no one.

 

[Cecilie1200]

The ranking comes from the World Health Organization, the directing and coordinating authority for health within the United Nations system. I believe their ranking system covers the pertinent points and should be considered accurate.

Based on what criteria?

Based on surveys from each of the 193 member countries, on specific topics, illnesses and demographic date collected. Google the World Health Organization if you really care about the criteria.

The fact remains, the US, based on whatever criteria, is number 37. Rather than attack the messenger (WHO) a thinking, caring, intelligent, non-partisan would ask why? And, it goes without saying, but I will, that those who attack the messenger are non thinkers, uncaring, not too bright and wholly partisan.

It goes without saying that those who ask "Why?" about everything EXCEPT the criteria used are non-thinkers, uncaring, not-too-bright, and wholly gullible. It's not "attacking the messenger" to include them in the questioning. Dumbass.

 

[Cecilie1200]

The ranking comes from the World Health Organization, the directing and coordinating authority for health within the United Nations system. I believe their ranking system covers the pertinent points and should be considered accurate.

Based on what criteria?

I'm not sure, but I would think that the criteria the WHO uses is what one would expect they should use, and I'm confident the criteria applies equally to each country..

So basically, you have no frigging clue WHAT that report was based on, but you're just SURE it must have been wonderful and perfect and exactly right, because the UN is just so spiffy and smart and all-knowing.

And you want to accuse OTHER people of being stupid.

I realize this is casting pearls before swine, but have you ever considered that it doesn't matter if the criteria "applies equally to each country" if it's shit criteria to start with?

 

[Cecilie1200]

Based on whatever criteria is not an answer. I don't trust WHO and the international organizations.

That's why I am still asking based on what criteria?

Who do you trust?
As I suggested, go to their web site and read the material. First look at how they rated nations, the criteria is right there for you to read. If you have doubts about the ratings post them; that is something which can be debated.
I refuse to respond to what maybe nothing more than a question posted by someone who seems to believe the World Health Organization has an agenda to discredit the United States.

I asked a very basic question. If the OP is going to make this claim, then asking based on what criteria is very legitimate question.

And no I am not going to research that answer. I am not the one making the claim.

Trust me, they aren't going to research it, either. Asking too many questions upsets their leftist worldview.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Wonder why no other nation is modeling their health care after the US?

Funny you should ask. While dimwits in the US drool over the socialized European and Canadian models, those countries have been adding US-style components to their systems in a quiet admission that they're screwing the pooch. And as soon as that info comes to light about one of them, you geniuses on the left go traipsing off to worship at the feet of someone else, only to repeat the same cycle.

What is it they say about doing the same thing over and over, expecting different results? Sign of insanity, isn't it?

Another sign of insanity is your post above. You can state something (i.e. "countries have been adding US-style components to their systems") but unless you cite to a source and back it up....who the FUCK is going to believe you?

Uhm...no one.

Umm, everyone but you, Johnny-Come-Lately, since everyone else has already hashed this sucker over to a faretheewell before you showed up acting like this 10-year-old shitpile was a newsflash. Even the dimwits giving you standing ovations know this stuff. Why do you think they're letting YOU take point and get pissed on?

Here's a tip: starting a thread about an old topic without reading any of the previous threads about it and seriously expecting everyone to repeat the same old stuff for your benefit makes you look both lazy and retarded. So why don't you hold your breath waiting for me to waste my time that way?

 

[Dr Grump]

I have the pig on ignore, but why do I get the impression the Cesspit has just had a fit??

 

[jillian]

I have the pig on ignore, but why do I get the impression the Cesspit has just had a fit??

cause she's looking like this right now:

 

[Dr Grump]

I have the pig on ignore, but why do I get the impression the Cesspit has just had a fit??

cause she's looking like this right now:

True..but how embarrassing is it to be her relative? Imagine it?

 

[jillian]

I have the pig on ignore, but why do I get the impression the Cesspit has just had a fit??

cause she's looking like this right now:

True..but how embarrassing is it to be her relative? Imagine it?

pretty scary...

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Can't address the facts so resort to name calling, isn't it you leftwads that whine about that all the time?

 

[rightwinger]

Once again we are not really 37. There are NO stabdards, each Country is free in each category reported to use what ever system they want to report with.

For example.... Live Births. In the US EVERY child that is alive AT the moment of birth is listed as a live birth, even the ones that have no chance of surviving more then a couple hours on their own. In other Countries live birth may mean the kid is a week old before they declare it a live birth.

And every category is like that. One can NOT compare Countires when one can not even know what the standard for repo0rting is and it is not a standard system for ALL countries.

The ranking comes from the World Health Organization, the directing and coordinating authority for health within the United Nations system. I believe their ranking system covers the pertinent points and should be considered accurate.

It is a typical right wing tactic that if you don't like the message, you attack the messanger. WHO, Nobel Prize, US Mainstream media.......all are respected worldwide but to conservatives they are the lunatic fringe.

If you don't like the WHO rankings, show me a similar study from a respected authority that has the US ranked higher

I am amazed that #37 is "good enough" for some Americans. As long as wealthy Americans can still receive first rate healthcare, who cares about everyone else? That attitude is what got us to #37

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Once again we are not really 37. There are NO stabdards, each Country is free in each category reported to use what ever system they want to report with.

For example.... Live Births. In the US EVERY child that is alive AT the moment of birth is listed as a live birth, even the ones that have no chance of surviving more then a couple hours on their own. In other Countries live birth may mean the kid is a week old before they declare it a live birth.

And every category is like that. One can NOT compare Countires when one can not even know what the standard for repo0rting is and it is not a standard system for ALL countries.

The ranking comes from the World Health Organization, the directing and coordinating authority for health within the United Nations system. I believe their ranking system covers the pertinent points and should be considered accurate.

It is a typical right wing tactic that if you don't like the message, you attack the messanger. WHO, Nobel Prize, US Mainstream media.......all are respected worldwide but to conservatives they are the lunatic fringe.

If you don't like the WHO rankings, show me a similar study from a respected authority that has the US ranked higher

I am amazed that #37 is "good enough" for some Americans. As long as wealthy Americans can still receive first rate healthcare, who cares about everyone else? That attitude is what got us to #37

Once again RETARD, what got us to 37 is bullshit procedures and standards.