Well now! Surprise surprise...

[MaggieMae]

Reports from journalists and the Government Accountability Office last month about problems with the data on Recovery.gov cast doubt on the site’s claim that more than 640,000 jobs had been created or saved by the Obama administration’s American Recovery and Reinvestment Act. Meanwhile Obama upped the ante, putting the figure at more than 1 million. On Nov. 12, for example, in announcing this month’s jobs summit, he said that the stimulus had “created and saved more than a million jobs.”

Now some good news for the White House: According to the Congressional Budget Office, the actual number may be more than twice what Recovery.gov says, and as much as 50 percent more than what Obama has been saying. The nonpartisan agency found that:

CBO, Nov. 30: n the third quarter of calendar year 2009, an additional 600,000 to 1.6 million people were employed in the United States, and real (inflation-adjusted) gross domestic product was 1.2 percent to 3.2 percent higher, than would have been the case in the absence of ARRA.

Read ----> Stimulus Jobs, Re-revisited | FactCheck.org

 

[California Girl]

I gotta get that recipe for cooking the books.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

OMFG!!!

The Stupidest OP in Human History!

Have you ever heard of the US Economy, because you assigned it a fucking Goose egg in Job Creation!

 

[Kevin_Kennedy]

The government can't create jobs.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

The US Government IS NOT THE ECONOMY!!!!!

 

[MaggieMae]

The government can't create jobs.

Really? Tell it to the astronauts, who wouldn't have their jobs were it not for the multi-billion dollar government program to get to the moon in 10 years. Tell it to the tens of thousands of people who work in private sector jobs related to space science. Tell it to the tens of thousands of people who work for businesses and contractors maintaining the interstate highway system.

 

[MaggieMae]

I gotta get that recipe for cooking the books.

I guess it would be a really fat cookbook, because they've been doing it for decades.

 

[California Girl]

I gotta get that recipe for cooking the books.

I guess it would be a really fat cookbook, because they've been doing it for decades.

I know. But Barack was gonna 'change Washington'.... remember?

 

[Yurt]

Reports from journalists and the Government Accountability Office last month about problems with the data on Recovery.gov cast doubt on the site’s claim that more than 640,000 jobs had been created or saved by the Obama administration’s American Recovery and Reinvestment Act. Meanwhile Obama upped the ante, putting the figure at more than 1 million. On Nov. 12, for example, in announcing this month’s jobs summit, he said that the stimulus had “created and saved more than a million jobs.”

Now some good news for the White House: According to the Congressional Budget Office, the actual number may be more than twice what Recovery.gov says, and as much as 50 percent more than what Obama has been saying. The nonpartisan agency found that:

CBO, Nov. 30: n the third quarter of calendar year 2009, an additional 600,000 to 1.6 million people were employed in the United States, and real (inflation-adjusted) gross domestic product was 1.2 percent to 3.2 percent higher, than would have been the case in the absence of ARRA.

Read ----> Stimulus Jobs, Re-revisited | FactCheck.org

 

[Kevin_Kennedy]

The government can't create jobs.

Really? Tell it to the astronauts, who wouldn't have their jobs were it not for the multi-billion dollar government program to get to the moon in 10 years. Tell it to the tens of thousands of people who work in private sector jobs related to space science. Tell it to the tens of thousands of people who work for businesses and contractors maintaining the interstate highway system.

All at the expense of other jobs that would have been created by the private sector, which by the way is where real wealth is created. Public jobs are a drain on the economy, rather than a benefit.

 

[MaggieMae]

I gotta get that recipe for cooking the books.

I guess it would be a really fat cookbook, because they've been doing it for decades.

I know. But Barack was gonna 'change Washington'.... remember?

I was being facetious. The CBO is a non-partisan agency that Obama has no influence over, none, nada. zip.

 

[MaggieMae]

The government can't create jobs.

Really? Tell it to the astronauts, who wouldn't have their jobs were it not for the multi-billion dollar government program to get to the moon in 10 years. Tell it to the tens of thousands of people who work in private sector jobs related to space science. Tell it to the tens of thousands of people who work for businesses and contractors maintaining the interstate highway system.

All at the expense of other jobs that would have been created by the private sector, which by the way is where real wealth is created. Public jobs are a drain on the economy, rather than a benefit.

That is pure bullshit. Prove it. Prove that millions of private sector jobs have not been created even in the health care/pharmaceutical field because of space science--just that one discipline alone. You won't be able to.

 

[MaggieMae]

A government job is still a JOB, the person doing that job spending money out in the private sector and giving a boost to a sluggish economy.

 

[California Girl]

I guess it would be a really fat cookbook, because they've been doing it for decades.

I know. But Barack was gonna 'change Washington'.... remember?

I was being facetious. The CBO is a non-partisan agency that Obama has no influence over, none, nada. zip.

So was I.... I just couldn't resist a dig at the POTUS when the opportunity presented itself.


*Sits quietly on the naughty step.*

 

[eagleseven]

Didn't you hear? The Stimulus saved over 100,000,000 jobs!

You'd ALL be unemployed if it wasn't for the wisdom of Obama!

 

[Kevin_Kennedy]

Really? Tell it to the astronauts, who wouldn't have their jobs were it not for the multi-billion dollar government program to get to the moon in 10 years. Tell it to the tens of thousands of people who work in private sector jobs related to space science. Tell it to the tens of thousands of people who work for businesses and contractors maintaining the interstate highway system.

All at the expense of other jobs that would have been created by the private sector, which by the way is where real wealth is created. Public jobs are a drain on the economy, rather than a benefit.

That is pure bullshit. Prove it. Prove that millions of private sector jobs have not been created even in the health care/pharmaceutical field because of space science--just that one discipline alone. You won't be able to.

Prove a negative?

At any rate, the "private" sector jobs you're referencing would have been created in response to a public sector job's demand, and paid for with public money. Therefore on the private market these jobs wouldn't exist because there's no real demand for them.

 

[elvis]

All at the expense of other jobs that would have been created by the private sector, which by the way is where real wealth is created. Public jobs are a drain on the economy, rather than a benefit.

That is pure bullshit. Prove it. Prove that millions of private sector jobs have not been created even in the health care/pharmaceutical field because of space science--just that one discipline alone. You won't be able to.

Prove a negative?

At any rate, the "private" sector jobs you're referencing would have been created in response to a public sector job's demand, and paid for with public money. Therefore on the private market these jobs wouldn't exist because there's no real demand for them.

careful. she'll compare you to hitler or Kim Jong il

 

[MaggieMae]

All at the expense of other jobs that would have been created by the private sector, which by the way is where real wealth is created. Public jobs are a drain on the economy, rather than a benefit.

That is pure bullshit. Prove it. Prove that millions of private sector jobs have not been created even in the health care/pharmaceutical field because of space science--just that one discipline alone. You won't be able to.

Prove a negative?

At any rate, the "private" sector jobs you're referencing would have been created in response to a public sector job's demand, and paid for with public money. Therefore on the private market these jobs wouldn't exist because there's no real demand for them.

Your analysis is based on theory only. The old "what-if" rationale always used by conservatives. You don't know for a fact that the private sector would have created such jobs left to its own ingenuity. In fact, I can't think of a single industry that resulted in successfully catapulting America forward as an industrialized nation that didn't rely on, at least in part, financial assistance from the federal government. But I'm always open to reminders.

 

[SFC Ollie]

Really? Tell it to the astronauts, who wouldn't have their jobs were it not for the multi-billion dollar government program to get to the moon in 10 years. Tell it to the tens of thousands of people who work in private sector jobs related to space science. Tell it to the tens of thousands of people who work for businesses and contractors maintaining the interstate highway system.

All at the expense of other jobs that would have been created by the private sector, which by the way is where real wealth is created. Public jobs are a drain on the economy, rather than a benefit.

That is pure bullshit. Prove it. Prove that millions of private sector jobs have not been created even in the health care/pharmaceutical field because of space science--just that one discipline alone. You won't be able to.

The point is that no one can prove that any were created because of the stimulus. Unemployment is still up not down. And how do you count a saved Job? If someone is still working did Obama save their job? Do new created government jobs count? He has created a few thousand of those but you have to be his buddy to get them. I guess thats why there's still a hundred or so jobs that he hasn't filled (Including the head of Medicare), he must have run out of buddies.

 

[MaggieMae]

All at the expense of other jobs that would have been created by the private sector, which by the way is where real wealth is created. Public jobs are a drain on the economy, rather than a benefit.

That is pure bullshit. Prove it. Prove that millions of private sector jobs have not been created even in the health care/pharmaceutical field because of space science--just that one discipline alone. You won't be able to.

The point is that no one can prove that any were created because of the stimulus. Unemployment is still up not down. And how do you count a saved Job? If someone is still working did Obama save their job? Do new created government jobs count? He has created a few thousand of those but you have to be his buddy to get them. I guess thats why there's still a hundred or so jobs that he hasn't filled (Including the head of Medicare), he must have run out of buddies.

There has been no comprehensive review yet as to which jobs can be attributed to the stimulus, so I guess you'll just have to continue saving up your venom for the time when one is published. In the meantime, you can read how the CBO arrived at these current conclusions.

Director’s Blog » Blog Archive » Estimated Impact of the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act on Employment and Economic Output as of September 2009

And by the way, the unemployment rate did drop, per today's report. It's still not dropping fast enough, however, so in your travels, if you happen upon Barack Obama's magic wand which he apparently threw out the window when he signed the stim bill, please return it to him so that he can immediately get at least a million folks back to work by next month. Thank you.