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You're not very observant, are you? His intentions when he left his town house, according to him, was to run some errands... Not to drive around and patrol the neighborhood with his pistol. He saw Trayvon acting strangely, according to him, and that is what caused him to follow him since there had been break ins recently in the neighborhood. Are you following me yet?The facts are in the 9-11 calls, the witness and initial police reports, also from what Trayvon's girlfriend testified too, though it only holds so much weight because she didnt actually see who pushed who, she just claims Trayvon was shoved for obvious reasons, she was his friend.PHP:
I'd say you're one of those people because you are basing everything on emotion and showing blatant disregard of facts like the facts Zimmerman could carry his weapon wherever he wanted because he had a permit and he was not patrolling the neighborhood when this incident occurred. Zimmerman was on his way to Target to run some errands when, according to him,he saw Trayvon creeping around the back of the town houses acting suspiciously. You are basing your opinion on the "feeling" you have that he shouldn't have been carrying his gun. The "feeling" that Zimmerman instigated it all. You're not basing this on any of the facts that I can see. Starting to catch my drift, LL?
You need seperate from your emotions in order to judge this case fairly. Unfortunately the folks on your side seem to be incapable of doing so for the most part. But that's how most liberals work, you care more about feelings than fact. I'm not trying to be a dick either, it's just an observation that I've made over the years.
You have said that he was doing his job and that he wasn't. Which is it?
And please. Lose that whole emotion/feelings argument. It is not a winner for you. It never will be.
And you're unwillingness to recognize that your whole opinion is based on feelings doesn't negate the fact it's as obvious as anything can get.
If you can't be honest with yourself, that's not my problem.
You're not very observant, are you? His intentions when he left his town house, according to him, was to run some errands... Not to drive around and patrol the neighborhood with his pistol. He saw Trayvon acting strangely, according to him, and that is what caused him to follow him since there had been break ins recently in the neighborhood. Are you following me yet?You have said that he was doing his job and that he wasn't. Which is it?
And please. Lose that whole emotion/feelings argument. It is not a winner for you. It never will be.
And you're unwillingness to recognize that your whole opinion is based on feelings doesn't negate the fact it's as obvious as anything can get.
If you can't be honest with yourself, that's not my problem.
So...he started "working" as a neighborhood watch guy when he saw Trayvon. I could buy that. Then...shouldn't he have left the gun in the vehicle when he left it?
Nutters accuse liberals of being both:
Highly emotional "touchy-feely" bleeding hearts AND heartless, cold-blooded thugs who will stop at nothing in their lust for socialist-facsist-dictatorship.
What are my feelings that form the basis of my opinion. smart guy?
Your posts are the basis. Your claim that Zimmerman shouldn't have been carrying a concealed firearm that he had a permit to do so. Your claim that you "feel" he instigated the whole thing. Go back and read it yourself. You, like most of the liberals here are not basing that on anything but emotion.You're not very observant, are you? His intentions when he left his town house, according to him, was to run some errands... Not to drive around and patrol the neighborhood with his pistol. He saw Trayvon acting strangely, according to him, and that is what caused him to follow him since there had been break ins recently in the neighborhood. Are you following me yet?You have said that he was doing his job and that he wasn't. Which is it?
And please. Lose that whole emotion/feelings argument. It is not a winner for you. It never will be.
And you're unwillingness to recognize that your whole opinion is based on feelings doesn't negate the fact it's as obvious as anything can get.
If you can't be honest with yourself, that's not my problem.
So...he started "working" as a neighborhood watch guy when he saw Trayvon. I could buy that. Then...shouldn't he have left the gun in the vehicle when he left it?
Nutters accuse liberals of being both:
Highly emotional "touchy-feely" bleeding hearts AND heartless, cold-blooded thugs who will stop at nothing in their lust for socialist-facsist-dictatorship.
What are my feelings that form the basis of my opinion. smart guy?
Your posts are the basis. Your claim that Zimmerman shouldn't have been carrying a concealed firearm that he had a permit to do so. Your claim that you "feel" he instigated the whole thing. Go back and read it yourself. You, like most of the liberals here are not basing that on anything but emotion.You're not very observant, are you? His intentions when he left his town house, according to him, was to run some errands... Not to drive around and patrol the neighborhood with his pistol. He saw Trayvon acting strangely, according to him, and that is what caused him to follow him since there had been break ins recently in the neighborhood. Are you following me yet?
And you're unwillingness to recognize that your whole opinion is based on feelings doesn't negate the fact it's as obvious as anything can get.
If you can't be honest with yourself, that's not my problem.
So...he started "working" as a neighborhood watch guy when he saw Trayvon. I could buy that. Then...shouldn't he have left the gun in the vehicle when he left it?
Nutters accuse liberals of being both:
Highly emotional "touchy-feely" bleeding hearts AND heartless, cold-blooded thugs who will stop at nothing in their lust for socialist-facsist-dictatorship.
What are my feelings that form the basis of my opinion. smart guy?
No. I commented that I was pleasantly surprised that the decision made by Angela Corey seemed to lessen the over-the-top rhetoric displayed by those assholes who were going crazy here. Then, it seems, all of you folks got your feelings hurt. My bad.
No. I commented that I was pleasantly surprised that the decision made by Angela Corey seemed to lessen the over-the-top rhetoric displayed by those assholes who were going crazy here. Then, it seems, all of you folks got your feelings hurt. My bad.
Just backing what I stated....thanks for the tip of your hand to all of us.
You can't even be honest with yourself, so your assessment of my case doesn't mean squat to me. Need another example? You calling people assholes for not sharing your opinion on this matter and your emotion based conclusion that Zimmerman couldn't possibly be considered a victim in this case.Your posts are the basis. Your claim that Zimmerman shouldn't have been carrying a concealed firearm that he had a permit to do so. Your claim that you "feel" he instigated the whole thing. Go back and read it yourself. You, like most of the liberals here are not basing that on anything but emotion.So...he started "working" as a neighborhood watch guy when he saw Trayvon. I could buy that. Then...shouldn't he have left the gun in the vehicle when he left it?
Nutters accuse liberals of being both:
Highly emotional "touchy-feely" bleeding hearts AND heartless, cold-blooded thugs who will stop at nothing in their lust for socialist-facsist-dictatorship.
What are my feelings that form the basis of my opinion. smart guy?
When did I say that? Fuckin' A dude. I said "I THINK".
You are really trying hard. But you are not making your case.
No. I commented that I was pleasantly surprised that the decision made by Angela Corey seemed to lessen the over-the-top rhetoric displayed by those assholes who were going crazy here. Then, it seems, all of you folks got your feelings hurt. My bad.
Just backing what I stated....thanks for the tip of your hand to all of us.
You can't even be honest with yourself, so your assessment of my case doesn't mean squat to me. Need another example? You calling people assholes for not sharing your opinion on this matter and your emotion based conclusion that Zimmerman couldn't possibly be considered a victim in this case.Your posts are the basis. Your claim that Zimmerman shouldn't have been carrying a concealed firearm that he had a permit to do so. Your claim that you "feel" he instigated the whole thing. Go back and read it yourself. You, like most of the liberals here are not basing that on anything but emotion.
When did I say that? Fuckin' A dude. I said "I THINK".
You are really trying hard. But you are not making your case.
I see you're getting a bit touchy about being called out on this. Good. Maybe you'll reevaluate the way you go about forming an opinion.
No need to thank me.
OMG...
LL is a train wreck.
My answer doesn't matter as much as what you said.OMG...
LL is a train wreck.
Oh yeah. You have absolutely destroyed me. How about answering that question.
My answer doesn't matter as much as what you said.OMG...
LL is a train wreck.
Oh yeah. You have absolutely destroyed me. How about answering that question.
As I said, I posted the sequence of events prior to the judge's finding of probable cause, and the most interesting thing happened - you inferred that the reason probable cause was found was Mob pressure.
Funny how that works.
But, what's even funnier is you chide others for coming to the exact same inference as you did.
Then, you get all bent out of shape.
As I said, you are a train wreck.
My answer doesn't matter as much as what you said.Oh yeah. You have absolutely destroyed me. How about answering that question.
As I said, I posted the sequence of events prior to the judge's finding of probable cause, and the most interesting thing happened - you inferred that the reason probable cause was found was Mob pressure.
Funny how that works.
But, what's even funnier is you chide others for coming to the exact same inference as you did.
Then, you get all bent out of shape.
As I said, you are a train wreck.
I think you may have missed a couple of posts. Go back and see where that "inference" was generated. You are a tool.
BTW...how about not adding all the fucking spaces before the final sentence in your posts. Doing so makes using the quote feature a fucking joy. Asshole.
You can't even be honest with yourself, so your assessment of my case doesn't mean squat to me. Need another example? You calling people assholes for not sharing your opinion on this matter and your emotion based conclusion that Zimmerman couldn't possibly be considered a victim in this case.When did I say that? Fuckin' A dude. I said "I THINK".
You are really trying hard. But you are not making your case.
I see you're getting a bit touchy about being called out on this. Good. Maybe you'll reevaluate the way you go about forming an opinion.
No need to thank me.
In other words.....I didn't say that at all. And you are too small of a person to retract your false claim. I get it.
I called nobody an asshole for not sharing my opinion. Reread the thread.
Yes. I will reevaluate how I go about forming an opinion due to you not being honest about the discussion. That is what i will do.
There are still many questions that have gone unanswered here. Why are you and Si Modo avoiding these questions?
With the information from the cop report and in consideration of the Florida Code, personally I don't think so.And...was there probable cause in this case?
The first State's Attorney didn't think so.
The second State's Attorney thought there was enough for a Grand Jury to decide that, then after further investigation, she decided at the 11th hour, to bypass the Grand Jury and write an affidavit of probable cause, but she needed to omit significant information.
And, the judge found that there was. Unfortunately, significant information was omitted in that affidavit, as Dershowitz points out. But, in consideration of the fucking Mob, I can totally understand why this current SA omitted such information in her affidavit.
Moron.
Gad damn, man. He's talking about the over zealous "Justice For Trayvon" types that shot out windows of a Sanford police vehicle, ransacked a store, and put bounty on Zimmerman's head. The "lynch mob mentality". They don't want justice for anyone, facts won't and don't mean shit to those people, they want Zimmerman hung from tree.With the information from the cop report and in consideration of the Florida Code, personally I don't think so.And...was there probable cause in this case?
The first State's Attorney didn't think so.
The second State's Attorney thought there was enough for a Grand Jury to decide that, then after further investigation, she decided at the 11th hour, to bypass the Grand Jury and write an affidavit of probable cause, but she needed to omit significant information.
And, the judge found that there was. Unfortunately, significant information was omitted in that affidavit, as Dershowitz points out. But, in consideration of the fucking Mob, I can totally understand why this current SA omitted such information in her affidavit.
Moron.
What did you say? Did YOU say something about a mob influencing the decision?
What she said was that there IS NOT probable cause to arrest and that the SA took the mob into consideration as she made her decision to file charges.
Are you telling me that this is not what she meant? I have misunderstood?
