We should switch all engines to diesel

[TSLexi]

We need to stop using gasoline engines. Diesels are a) more efficient, b) last longer, and c) can run on biodiesel, a renewable source of diesel, or shale oil. By switching to diesel cars, we can make use of our abundant oil shale deposits, and eventually transition to 100% biodiesel as our main fuel source, drastically reducing our demand for foreign oil.

Also, the six stroke cycle developed by Crower increases the power of the engine by injecting water after the 4th stroke. This a) produces an incredible amount of power from the expansion of steam, b) eliminates the need for a heavy cooling system, and c) reduces the amount of fuel needed, which will reduce emissions.

Using CVT transmissions will further increase fuel efficiency, as the engine can always operate at its most-efficient rpm.

If shale oil is used, a limestone scrubber can be installed in the exhaust to convert the sulfur dioxide produced due to its high sulfur content into gypsum, which can be sold to drywall companies.

We can devote all of our farming to producing biodiesel, and use the massive savings from no longer having to import foreign oil to import food.

 

[Old Rocks]

Diesels are more expensive to build than gas engines, other than that, agree with your position on diesel engines. However, EV's have the advantage of the homeowner being able to make his own fuel, and at the same time, power his home.

 

[TSLexi]

Prices always come down (if your economy is growing and your central bank does its job correctly).

Diesels are more expensive to build, but the savings from being able to use renewable biodiesel and greater fuel-efficiency should offset that.

 

[Pogo]

Agree, good idea.

Except for the CVT part. Nothing will ever get me to give up my sticks. Nothing. In fact we should switch all transmissions to stick; they're more efficient, last longer, are cheaper to build, cheaper to maintain and cheaper to fix, require less regiuar maintenance, are lighter, and nimords can't be texting while driving, at least during the upshift. And no machine can ever make transmission decisions like a human can.

 

[Mr. H.]

Definitely need more diesel powered passenger cars.

But biodiesel?

What's wrong with regular diesel fuel in today's modern engines?

And, the fewer gasoline vehicles on the road - the less ethanol the ag industry would sell. And we can't go pissing off the ag industry.

 

[TSLexi]

Definitely need more diesel powered passenger cars.

But biodiesel?

What's wrong with regular diesel fuel in today's modern engines?

And, the fewer gasoline vehicles on the road - the less ethanol the ag industry would sell. And we can't go pissing off the ag industry.

Biodiesel has a higher cetane rating, is renewable, and the ag industry would love you if only biodiesel was allowed.

 

[Politico]

No we should switch to Propane/Natural Gas and become energy independent.

 

[Two Thumbs]

We need to stop using gasoline engines. Diesels are a) more efficient, b) last longer, and c) can run on biodiesel, a renewable source of diesel, or shale oil. By switching to diesel cars, we can make use of our abundant oil shale deposits, and eventually transition to 100% biodiesel as our main fuel source, drastically reducing our demand for foreign oil.

Also, the six stroke cycle developed by Crower increases the power of the engine by injecting water after the 4th stroke. This a) produces an incredible amount of power from the expansion of steam, b) eliminates the need for a heavy cooling system, and c) reduces the amount of fuel needed, which will reduce emissions.

Using CVT transmissions will further increase fuel efficiency, as the engine can always operate at its most-efficient rpm.

If shale oil is used, a limestone scrubber can be installed in the exhaust to convert the sulfur dioxide produced due to its high sulfur content into gypsum, which can be sold to drywall companies.

We can devote all of our farming to producing biodiesel, and use the massive savings from no longer having to import foreign oil to import food.

I like these ideas, except if it's forced through regualtions

the bolded is utter non-sense

no one is going to collect gypsum and take the time to sell it all. aside from the fact only so much would be bought.

turning all our farms to fuel would force us to import food and drive the cost of food remarkably high. like it did in Mexico

 

[theHawk]

Diesel engines are great but how about we let people buy whatever engines they want.

 

[TSLexi]

Diesel engines are great but how about we let people buy whatever engines they want.

We are, we're just using the tax code to make diesels more attractive, and gasoline engines less.

 

[Pogo]

Diesel engines are great but how about we let people buy whatever engines they want.

How about we get over this endless fixation on "let people this" and "government that"?
Holy shit you robots are tedious. It's the PC speech control of the right, We can't talk about freaking automotive technology without this endless mantra going on. Enough already. Reagan's dead. Sheesh.

 

[Mr. H.]

Definitely need more diesel powered passenger cars.

But biodiesel?

What's wrong with regular diesel fuel in today's modern engines?

And, the fewer gasoline vehicles on the road - the less ethanol the ag industry would sell. And we can't go pissing off the ag industry.

Biodiesel has a higher cetane rating, is renewable, and the ag industry would love you if only biodiesel was allowed.

Fuck the ag industry.

I spent 18 months as a team leader in an attempt to bring a biodiesel facility to our county. They wanted reams of research and data for the Site Selection Survey.

My discoveries: the amounts of electricity, natural gas, and fresh water required are staggering. And the waste stream is a nightmare.

No, biodiesel is the very same scam as ethanol. It's a goddamn joke at our (and nature's) expense.

 

[Rat in the Hat]

We need to stop using gasoline engines. Diesels are a) more efficient, b) last longer, and c) can run on biodiesel, a renewable source of diesel, or shale oil. By switching to diesel cars, we can make use of our abundant oil shale deposits, and eventually transition to 100% biodiesel as our main fuel source, drastically reducing our demand for foreign oil.

Also, the six stroke cycle developed by Crower increases the power of the engine by injecting water after the 4th stroke. This a) produces an incredible amount of power from the expansion of steam, b) eliminates the need for a heavy cooling system, and c) reduces the amount of fuel needed, which will reduce emissions.

Using CVT transmissions will further increase fuel efficiency, as the engine can always operate at its most-efficient rpm.

If shale oil is used, a limestone scrubber can be installed in the exhaust to convert the sulfur dioxide produced due to its high sulfur content into gypsum, which can be sold to drywall companies.

We can devote all of our farming to producing biodiesel, and use the massive savings from no longer having to import foreign oil to import food.

We can devote all of our farming to producing biodiesel, and use the massive savings from no longer having to import foreign oil to import food.

What a brilliant idea. Let's switch from importing something that most people need to importing something that everybody needs.

Oh yeah, I don't see foreign farmers taking advantage of THAT.

 

[testarosa]

We need to stop using gasoline engines. Diesels are a) more efficient, b) last longer, and c) can run on biodiesel, a renewable source of diesel, or shale oil. By switching to diesel cars, we can make use of our abundant oil shale deposits, and eventually transition to 100% biodiesel as our main fuel source, drastically reducing our demand for foreign oil.

Also, the six stroke cycle developed by Crower increases the power of the engine by injecting water after the 4th stroke. This a) produces an incredible amount of power from the expansion of steam, b) eliminates the need for a heavy cooling system, and c) reduces the amount of fuel needed, which will reduce emissions.

Using CVT transmissions will further increase fuel efficiency, as the engine can always operate at its most-efficient rpm.

If shale oil is used, a limestone scrubber can be installed in the exhaust to convert the sulfur dioxide produced due to its high sulfur content into gypsum, which can be sold to drywall companies.

We can devote all of our farming to producing biodiesel, and use the massive savings from no longer having to import foreign oil to import food.

We can devote all of our farming to producing biodiesel, and use the massive savings from no longer having to import foreign oil to import food.

What a brilliant idea. Let's switch from importing something that most people need to importing something that everybody needs.

Oh yeah, I don't see foreign farmers taking advantage of THAT.

Do you really know what's in all the food you're eating that's imported from China? If you don't, you're actually in good company: The FDA only inspects 1% - 2% of all the food imported from China, so they don't know either. Even when they inspect a shipment, they rarely test it for heavy metals, pesticides, PCBs or other toxic contaminants.

Formaldehyde Detected in Supermarket Fish Imported from Asia

Another week, another food-safety crisis in China.
The poisoning appears to be due to ethylene glycol; the vinegar had been stored in barrels that previously contained antifreeze. According to the AP, investigators haven’t yet been able to say whether the vinegar was put in the barrels out of ignorance, making it a problem of accidental contamination, or deliberately by an unscrupulous producer seeking to cut corners.

Filthy Seafood: Although most of the seafood Americans eat is imported, only 1 percent is inspected before it comes into the U. S., and a sizeable portion of that is rejected as filthy or tainted with banned drug residue.
Inspections: A rare behind-the-scenes look at border inspection and testing facilities in Southern California shows how federal investigators try to catch contaminated and mislabeled food imports using long-standing techniques like smell testing by an inspector known as “The Nose.”
Cantaloupe: A salmonella outbreak in Oregon and other states is traced to imported cantaloupe grown on a farm in Guatemala, raising questions about how foodborne illness outbreaks are investigated and the steps authorities take to stop them from spreading.

 

[theHawk]

Diesel engines are great but how about we let people buy whatever engines they want.

We are, we're just using the tax code to make diesels more attractive, and gasoline engines less.

In other words we're just using the government to coerce people into buying what we think is right.

Out here in Europe they tax fuel so much it's nearly $8 a gallon. And liberals think that's a good thing.

 

[martybegan]

Diesel engines are great but how about we let people buy whatever engines they want.

We are, we're just using the tax code to make diesels more attractive, and gasoline engines less.

So government coersion, but subtle government coerscion.

How about build something that people will buy without all the governmental shennanigans? Horses and buggies didnt die out because automobiles were subsidized, they died out because automobiles were better in almost every respect.

 

[martybegan]

Diesel engines are great but how about we let people buy whatever engines they want.

How about we get over this endless fixation on "let people this" and "government that"?
Holy shit you robots are tedious. It's the PC speech control of the right, We can't talk about freaking automotive technology without this endless mantra going on. Enough already. Reagan's dead. Sheesh.

We can talk about it, but when the greens discuss crap like this inevitably the concept only works if we either outright force people to change (i.e. banning incandescent light bulbs) or mess with the tax system to punish one group and reward another.

Good ideas should be able to work on thier own merit.

 

[theHawk]

Diesel engines are great but how about we let people buy whatever engines they want.

How about we get over this endless fixation on "let people this" and "government that"?
Holy shit you robots are tedious. It's the PC speech control of the right, We can't talk about freaking automotive technology without this endless mantra going on. Enough already. Reagan's dead. Sheesh.

Yea, I'm sure you progressives would just love it if the rest of us give up that "let people be free" stuff.

This thread is on a political message board and has the slant of pushing green garabge technology. Diesel and even hybrids are just fine, but anyone with half a brain knows that biofuels are a hoax. Its yet another "green" myth that the mindless sheep parrot, expecting us to believe that its a good idea to use 70% of our crops just to put a small percentage of blend into normal fuel.

 

[Pogo]

Diesel engines are great but how about we let people buy whatever engines they want.

How about we get over this endless fixation on "let people this" and "government that"?
Holy shit you robots are tedious. It's the PC speech control of the right, We can't talk about freaking automotive technology without this endless mantra going on. Enough already. Reagan's dead. Sheesh.

Yea, I'm sure you progressives would just love it if the rest of us give up that "let people be free" stuff.

This thread is on a political message board and has the slant of pushing green garabge technology. Diesel and even hybrids are just fine, but anyone with half a brain knows that biofuels are a hoax. Its yet another "green" myth that the mindless sheep parrot, expecting us to believe that its a good idea to use 70% of our crops just to put a small percentage of blend into normal fuel.

This is the energy forum.

For shit's sake, buy a pacifier already. The endless torrent of message board Bolshevism gets old. You don't have a clue what you're talking about in the first place; I've been an anti-ethanol activist forever. And to the hijack post before yours, incandescents were never "banned". We've done that too.

Why can't we just converse about what the actual topic are is -- in this case energy-- without you gadfly drones buzzing about? Sheesh.
Now if you've got something to say on diesel versus gas technology, bring it on and get back on topic.

 

[longknife]

No, we should change all internal combustion engines to natural gas!

Far cheaper and easier to refine for commercial use.
Less polluting
Engines last far longer.

[first-hand experience]