We Are Witnessing The Birth Of A Movement And The Downfall Of A President

[Mac1958]

No need for insults. I told you, I believe you

What you believe isn't what we believe. That's perfectly obvious.

Well, if you really believe that Obama thinks or thought we have 57 states, there's not much I can say.

But I do find it very interesting that you believe that. So it's all good.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

You might be witnessing something else all together. In Chicago armed whites have barricaded neighborhoods off. They are patrolling themselves. In Alabama a flaming cross was put on a freeway over pass.

All good news.

 

[Dick Foster]

There has been a turning. A protest against the murder of a black man by police in Minneapolis has become a movement. Demonstrations, which began almost two weeks ago, are ongoing. They are huge. They are nationwide. They are peaceful. They show no signs of stopping. They are protesting the death of a man who should not have had to die, and they are protesting the man who seemingly gave permission for him to be murdered by the intolerance and racism he has openly promoted for more than four years.

But Trump's threat to use active-duty soldiers to suppress dissent has encountered some profound pushback from an unexpected source: the United States military. It began with a statement by former Secretary of Defense James Mattis in reaction to the use of force, and then something extraordinary happened. Mattis' clarion call was joined by more senior military figures, beginning with Secretary of Defense Mark Esper. Retired Adm. Mike Mullen, who served as chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff under Barack Obama, was next. He wrote a piece for The Atlantic entitled, "I cannot remain silent."

Retired General John R. Allen weighed in next, writing ominously in Foreign Policy magazine. More retired generals weighed in later in the week, including two former chairs of the Joint Chiefs, Martin Dempsey and Richard Meyers.

But even more extraordinary than the retired officers who spoke out was the letter from the current chairman of the Joint Chiefs, Gen. Mark A. Milley, which was leaked to conservative pundit Bill Kristol on Thursday. Milley is said to have had a contentious meeting with Trump in the Oval Office on Monday before joining him in his infamous "walk" down the street cleared by police and National Guard soldiers. According to David Ignatius of the Washington Post, Milley, "whose temper can match Trump's...was vocal in reiterating his advice to the president against mobilizing troops, according to three knowledgeable sources who spoke on the condition of anonymity." That is Washington-speak for "they were yelling at each other."

For a military man, this comes close to a call for insurrection. Milley's message is written in a code that everyone in uniform will understand implicitly. By reminding every member of the military that the soldiers currently deployed on the street around the country are not there under the authority of the president, and by reminding them of their oath to the Constitution, he is telling them that the military will not be carrying out any un-American orders issued by Donald Trump.

It's the birth of a movement â and the downfall of a president

We've reached a turning point in the Trump era. The 2020 campaign is in the streets and he's losing

www.salon.com

Trump has lost the military. He's done.

What you'r really witnessing is the death of the democratic party, dumbass.

 

[badbob85037]

It may well be that the Age of Trump has a silver lining: That it taught us what we don't want to be as an intelligent, civilized country.

Talk about irony. But life is funny that way.

blacks;
murder 4 times the rate
rape 2 times the rate
hate crimes 2 times the rate
crime higher rates
etc
blacks are the violent ones
..these flash mobs that stole and destroyed [ when there was NO black death by cop ] were blacks--KIDS--DOZENS of them
..same with natural disaster looting

Don't you wish Trump would bring that stuff up?

That's right let us put all the blame on Trump showing just how stupid we are. Don't believe facts only what these crazed leftist say. Forget the fact that Trump has made more minority's advancements than any other president in history. Just believe what these treasonous democrats tell us proving we are to stupid to check. All us idiots need to jump on the Band Wagon allowing America to give billions to global warming and jump back on the Iran nuclear deal while sending them billions in cash. Appease all the ones singing 'death to America the big Satan'. Trump hasn't even started an illegal war setting up terrorist in power.

It amazes me how many people believe the words of power hungry Socialist to the accomplishments of a president in plain sight. I would say get a clue but these people have shown they wouldn't know a clue if it walked up, introduced it's self then kicked the shit out of them.

 

[Mac1958]

It may well be that the Age of Trump has a silver lining: That it taught us what we don't want to be as an intelligent, civilized country.

Talk about irony. But life is funny that way.

blacks;
murder 4 times the rate
rape 2 times the rate
hate crimes 2 times the rate
crime higher rates
etc
blacks are the violent ones
..these flash mobs that stole and destroyed [ when there was NO black death by cop ] were blacks--KIDS--DOZENS of them
..same with natural disaster looting

Don't you wish Trump would bring that stuff up?

That's right let us put all the blame on Trump showing just how stupid we are. Don't believe facts only what these crazed leftist say. Forget the fact that Trump has made more minority's advancements than any other president in history. Just believe what these treasonous democrats tell us proving we are to stupid to check. All us idiots need to jump on the Band Wagon allowing America to give billions to global warming and jump back on the Iran nuclear deal while sending them billions in cash. Appease all the ones singing 'death to America the big Satan'. Trump hasn't even started an illegal war setting up terrorist in power.

It amazes me how many people believe the words of power hungry Socialist to the accomplishments of a president in plain sight. I would say get a clue but these people have shown they wouldn't know a clue if it walked up, introduced it's self then kicked the shit out of them.

Wow, look at all that.

Is that a "yes" or a "no"?

 

[Anathema]

This “movement” will lose its steam the instant it meets armed resistance that isn’t hamstrung by ridiculous ROE which leave them impotent to stop these protests.

 

[22lcidw]

No need for insults. I told you, I believe you

What you believe isn't what we believe. That's perfectly obvious.

Well, if you really believe that Obama thinks or thought we have 57 states, there's not much I can say.

But I do find it very interesting that you believe that. So it's all good.

Its not that he said it, its that you live in a total cross the T's and dot the I's Saul Alinsky activist mode. You guys have activate a potential race in who gets the dictators we say we like, but will all end up lamenting.

 

[theHawk]

There has been a turning. A protest against the murder of a black man by police in Minneapolis has become a movement. Demonstrations, which began almost two weeks ago, are ongoing. They are huge. They are nationwide. They are peaceful. They show no signs of stopping. They are protesting the death of a man who should not have had to die, and they are protesting the man who seemingly gave permission for him to be murdered by the intolerance and racism he has openly promoted for more than four years.

But Trump's threat to use active-duty soldiers to suppress dissent has encountered some profound pushback from an unexpected source: the United States military. It began with a statement by former Secretary of Defense James Mattis in reaction to the use of force, and then something extraordinary happened. Mattis' clarion call was joined by more senior military figures, beginning with Secretary of Defense Mark Esper. Retired Adm. Mike Mullen, who served as chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff under Barack Obama, was next. He wrote a piece for The Atlantic entitled, "I cannot remain silent."

Retired General John R. Allen weighed in next, writing ominously in Foreign Policy magazine. More retired generals weighed in later in the week, including two former chairs of the Joint Chiefs, Martin Dempsey and Richard Meyers.

But even more extraordinary than the retired officers who spoke out was the letter from the current chairman of the Joint Chiefs, Gen. Mark A. Milley, which was leaked to conservative pundit Bill Kristol on Thursday. Milley is said to have had a contentious meeting with Trump in the Oval Office on Monday before joining him in his infamous "walk" down the street cleared by police and National Guard soldiers. According to David Ignatius of the Washington Post, Milley, "whose temper can match Trump's...was vocal in reiterating his advice to the president against mobilizing troops, according to three knowledgeable sources who spoke on the condition of anonymity." That is Washington-speak for "they were yelling at each other."

For a military man, this comes close to a call for insurrection. Milley's message is written in a code that everyone in uniform will understand implicitly. By reminding every member of the military that the soldiers currently deployed on the street around the country are not there under the authority of the president, and by reminding them of their oath to the Constitution, he is telling them that the military will not be carrying out any un-American orders issued by Donald Trump.

It's the birth of a movement â and the downfall of a president

We've reached a turning point in the Trump era. The 2020 campaign is in the streets and he's losing

www.salon.com

Trump has lost the military. He's done.

“The end is near for Trump” thread #2,973,901.....

 

[Eric Arthur Blair]

Well, if you really believe that Obama thinks or thought we have 57 states, there's not much I can say.

Yet you still drone on.

But I do find it very interesting that you believe that. So it's all good.

I believe Obama said what he said and I can't find anywhere where he retracted or corrected himself.
Maybe he was thinking of the 57 Islamic states in the Islamic Organization of Islamic Cooperation.

Member states of the Organisation of Islamic Cooperation - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Mac1958]

No need for insults. I told you, I believe you

What you believe isn't what we believe. That's perfectly obvious.

Well, if you really believe that Obama thinks or thought we have 57 states, there's not much I can say.

But I do find it very interesting that you believe that. So it's all good.

Its not that he said it, its that you live in a total cross the T's and dot the I's Saul Alinsky activist mode. You guys have activate a potential race in who gets the dictators we say we like, but will all end up lamenting.

Just being honest. I can imagine your confusion and need for hyperbole.

 

[Mac1958]

Well, if you really believe that Obama thinks or thought we have 57 states, there's not much I can say.

Yet you still drone on.

But I do find it very interesting that you believe that. So it's all good.

I believe Obama said what he said and I can't find anywhere where he retracted or corrected himself.
Maybe he was thinking of the 57 Islamic states in the Islamic Organization of Islamic Cooperation.

Member states of the Organisation of Islamic Cooperation - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

I clearly explained another perfectly reasonable option, but you don't want to consider it. You'd rather just assume the worst, because you feel it gives you some kind of advantage. Somehow.

That's up to you.

 

[22lcidw]

No need for insults. I told you, I believe you

What you believe isn't what we believe. That's perfectly obvious.

Well, if you really believe that Obama thinks or thought we have 57 states, there's not much I can say.

But I do find it very interesting that you believe that. So it's all good.

Its not that he said it, its that you live in a total cross the T's and dot the I's Saul Alinsky activist mode. You guys have activate a potential race in who gets the dictators we say we like, but will all end up lamenting.

Just being honest. I can imagine your confusion and need for hyperbole.

Sometimes to much. I admit it. But it has its moments at times.

 

[citygator]

The last place conservatives still have a majority is message board troll havens. Act like 2018 didn’t happen and their popularity has cratered since.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

A bowel movement maybe

TDS thread 1,675

 

[playtime]

 

[eagle1462010]

I clearly explained another perfectly reasonable option

 

[LoneLaugher]

Poor democrats think we are going
To vote on hate and fake news lol Rasmussen came out this week giving trump 40% black vote! Incredible

How confident are you that Trump has the support of 40% of black voters?

I am willing to wager anything you wish that he gets no more than 10% of the black vote in November.

Cash? Any amount you can handle.
Winner picks loser’s avatar and signature for a year? No problem.

Name the wager.

 

[Jitss617]

Poor democrats think we are going
To vote on hate and fake news lol Rasmussen came out this week giving trump 40% black vote! Incredible

How confident are you that Trump has the support of 40% of black voters?

I am willing to wager anything you wish that he gets no more than 10% of the black vote in November.

Cash? Any amount you can handle.
Winner picks loser’s avatar and signature for a year? No problem.

Name the wager.

I would love to! But there is no knowledge what democrats will promise black ppl
From now until than.. TODAY trump has 60-70-% of the black vote. In a few months your never know.

 

[LoneLaugher]

Poor democrats think we are going
To vote on hate and fake news lol Rasmussen came out this week giving trump 40% black vote! Incredible

How confident are you that Trump has the support of 40% of black voters?

I am willing to wager anything you wish that he gets no more than 10% of the black vote in November.

Cash? Any amount you can handle.
Winner picks loser’s avatar and signature for a year? No problem.

Name the wager.

I would love to! But there is no knowledge what democrats will promise black ppl
From now until than.. TODAY trump has 60-70-% of the black vote. In a few months your never know.

You think the greatest president in history who has done more for black Americans than any other president could lose over 50% of his black support due to Dems fake promises?

Man. You don’t have much confidence in your guy, do ya?

 

[Jitss617]

Poor democrats think we are going
To vote on hate and fake news lol Rasmussen came out this week giving trump 40% black vote! Incredible

How confident are you that Trump has the support of 40% of black voters?

I am willing to wager anything you wish that he gets no more than 10% of the black vote in November.

Cash? Any amount you can handle.
Winner picks loser’s avatar and signature for a year? No problem.

Name the wager.

I would love to! But there is no knowledge what democrats will promise black ppl
From now until than.. TODAY trump has 60-70-% of the black vote. In a few months your never know.

You think the greatest president in history whonhas done more for black Americans than any other president could lose over 50% of his black support due to Dems fake promises?

Man. You don’t have much confidence in your guy, do ya?

Unfortunately no,, but I see a rebound with blacks in 2020 free the slaves!