War With Syria: Yea Or Nay?

[paulitician]

LOL----BS Fartimah and Aisha created AL QUAEDA

LOL----BS Without massive US/Saudi/Pakistani funding, arming and training, there would have never been an Al Qaeda. Hence, no 9/11 and Jihad insanity we're seeing throughout the world today.

wrong again------al Qaeda is----very simply----that which was founded by muhummad---and aggravated into feuding groups by his nutty ambitious daughters------Fartimah and Aisha---
read the koran and learn some history Bin laden was bin laden entirely UNFUNDED by the USA -----Taliban is Taliban by virtue of the
Pakistani sunni grammar school curriculum ----Isis is Isis by virtue of the muslim grammar school curriculum-------Islamic terrorism has been going on for 1400 years------the AID it got was that Europeans found out that FOSSIL FUELS ------are the very best for ENERGY

Radical Islam has gotten a whole lotta help from the US/West and Saudi Arabia. They've been the chief creators and financiers of radical Islamic groups around the world.

you never met a Pakistani-----have you? You have never heard of Shiite sluts with bombs on their asses-----have you?
Afghanistan was invaded by Russians in 1979 and at THAT POINT------afghani tribesmen gathered themselves into the MUJIHADEEN movement--------

In hindsight, we should have allowed the Soviets to have Afghanistan. No 9/11 or the Jihad madness we're seeing throughout the world. It was another Blow Back blunder.

 

[Bleipriester]

What utter nonsense, Wahhabism arose in the 19th century, while Mecca was controlled by the Ottomans. The Brits merely (and foolishly) gave them control of the area as they viewed them as a priest caste empowered to protect the holy sites of Islam.

It is true. They used it to make them do foolish things in favor of their empire.

More ignorant nonsense. Osama bin Laden (it's a title, Osama of the Laden clan) was a radical who eschewed his family wealth and went to Afghanistan to join with the already existing Muja. The Mujahadeen did NOT openly accept the Saudi, and he spent his time as a financier, using the money he claimed to despise, to support the real fighters. The Muja were formed of 5 competing groups, none of which were the foreign fighters.. When civil war broke out, Osama took off to Africa. One faction, the Taliban, eventually took control. Not Al Qaeda, but the Pushtan based Taliban.

Lean some history before making posts.

Oh, and Rosie is right, Al-Qaeds goes back to the roots of Islam and the Sunni - Shia split. It is astoundingly arrogant of Osama to have taken that name for his group.

"Born in Saudi Arabia to a Yemeni family, Bin Laden left Saudi Arabia in 1979 to fight against the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan.

The Afghan jihad was backed with American dollars and had the blessing of the governments of Saudi Arabia and Pakistan."
BBC NEWS | South Asia | Who is Osama Bin Laden?

The Insider | CIA created al-Qaeda and gave $3 BILLION to Osama bin Laden

 

[Uncensored2008]

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Osama Bin Laden was on the CIA's payroll.

False, the opposite of the truth.

First off, Osama had access to billions, what would he need money from the CIA for?

Regardless, what Osama brought to the the Mujahadeen was cash. They let him play because he could pay.

So were many other murderous thugs in Afghanistan. They sold their souls to the devil to oust the Soviets. And boy are we paying the price for that today. They just repeated history by creating ISIS to 'Regime Change' Assad.

The US/West and Saudi Arabia have used radical thugs to do their bidding for many years. So Americans better not be shocked, but rather fully expect the chickens to come home to roost. Because it is gonna happen. It's a logical inevitability.

An interesting "history" you offer.

Virtually no truth to any of it, though.

 

[Uncensored2008]

What utter nonsense, Wahhabism arose in the 19th century, while Mecca was controlled by the Ottomans. The Brits merely (and foolishly) gave them control of the area as they viewed them as a priest caste empowered to protect the holy sites of Islam.

It is true. They used it to make them do foolish things in favor of their empire.

More ignorant nonsense. Osama bin Laden (it's a title, Osama of the Laden clan) was a radical who eschewed his family wealth and went to Afghanistan to join with the already existing Muja. The Mujahadeen did NOT openly accept the Saudi, and he spent his time as a financier, using the money he claimed to despise, to support the real fighters. The Muja were formed of 5 competing groups, none of which were the foreign fighters.. When civil war broke out, Osama took off to Africa. One faction, the Taliban, eventually took control. Not Al Qaeda, but the Pushtan based Taliban.

Lean some history before making posts.

Oh, and Rosie is right, Al-Qaeds goes back to the roots of Islam and the Sunni - Shia split. It is astoundingly arrogant of Osama to have taken that name for his group.

"Born in Saudi Arabia to a Yemeni family, Bin Laden left Saudi Arabia in 1979 to fight against the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan.

The Afghan jihad was backed with American dollars and had the blessing of the governments of Saudi Arabia and Pakistan."
BBC NEWS | South Asia | Who is Osama Bin Laden?

The Insider | CIA created al-Qaeda and gave $3 BILLION to Osama bin Laden

Moronic conspiracy theory bullshit.

 

[rhodescholar]

Syria always opposed the war in Iraq.

Who gives a fuck what they supported/opposed? They were harboring, financing and aiding terrorists killing americans in iraq. I guess to c.unts like you, making a political point is more important than defending fellow americans.

assad is welcome to his own opinion; he was NOT welcome to sustaining a guerilla war against the US - and should have been destroyed back then.

But regardless, the U.S. had no valid or legal justification for declaring 'Regime Change' and intervening in Syria's Civil War. When the war ends, the U.S. and Saudi Arabia especially, should be required to pay War Reparations to the Syrian People.

Wrong shit for brains, at the end of the civil war if there is any justice assad will be hanged, and iran will pay reparations for helping slaughter 500K syrians so as to keep their pet in power to rule over the 85% of the population that hated him. You're as big a fucking idiot as I've seen on this board, ever - and I've been here a long time.

 

[rhodescholar]

Yeah, if Russia and Iran hadn't intervened, ISIS would have taken Syria. It's a very sad tragic foreign policy. Our Government continues to create brutal Frankensteins to do its bidding.

The only reason I can think of someone willing to look as fucking stupid as you on a public forum is money, but whoever is paying you is not getting their money's worth.

ISIS DID NOT EVEN FUCKING APPEAR in the syrian uprising for YEARS after it started, asshole moron. Had assad not started massacring the civilian population, a rational, sane government could have been initiated, but then assad and his cronies would not have been able to rape the country of its finances any longer.

Funny how fucking scumbags like you attack Israel/US for non-democratic actions, but support the world's worst dictatorial vermin like assad.

It started with creating Al Qaeda to fight the Soviets, and has continued right up to creating ISIS to kill Assad. ISIS was the 'Good Guy in Syria, as long as it stuck to getting Assad. But as usual, Blow Back blew in and they were declared the 'Bad Guy' in Iraq. It's an awful Foreign Policy. It has to be changed.

You're too unintelligent and honestly, below me for me to respond any longer. Anyone who thinks that ISIS=al qaeda is way, way too fucking stupid to be allowed to post on a political forum.

 

[rhodescholar]

LOL----BS Without massive US/Saudi/Pakistani funding, arming and training, there would have never been an Al Qaeda. Hence, no 9/11 and Jihad insanity we're seeing throughout the world today.

Right idiot asshole, because other than al qaeda there's no other arab muslim terrorist groups operating over the past 50 years...you fucking low IQ asshole moron.

 

[rhodescholar]

Yeah, it's been proven Turkey was buying ISIS-seized oil all along. Turkey, another one of our 'Good Buddies', has been helping ISIS for awhile. It's just another sad bloody mess in the Middle East. We need to sop all the meddling and disengage from the region. We've created enough horrific chaos over there.

Yay, let's keep changing the subject because we're too fucking stupid to defend any of our moronic conspiracy theories...wow you are a fucking idiot.

 

[paulitician]

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Osama Bin Laden was on the CIA's payroll.

False, the opposite of the truth.

First off, Osama had access to billions, what would he need money from the CIA for?

Regardless, what Osama brought to the the Mujahadeen was cash. They let him play because he could pay.

So were many other murderous thugs in Afghanistan. They sold their souls to the devil to oust the Soviets. And boy are we paying the price for that today. They just repeated history by creating ISIS to 'Regime Change' Assad.

The US/West and Saudi Arabia have used radical thugs to do their bidding for many years. So Americans better not be shocked, but rather fully expect the chickens to come home to roost. Because it is gonna happen. It's a logical inevitability.

An interesting "history" you offer.

Virtually no truth to any of it, though.

Bin Laden's group and other radical groups worked closely with the CIA in Afghanistan. They couldn't have defeated the Soviets without the CIA.

 

[paulitician]

Syria always opposed the war in Iraq.

Who gives a fuck what they supported/opposed? They were harboring, financing and aiding terrorists killing americans in iraq. I guess to c.unts like you, making a political point is more important than defending fellow americans.

assad is welcome to his own opinion; he was NOT welcome to sustaining a guerilla war against the US - and should have been destroyed back then.

But regardless, the U.S. had no valid or legal justification for declaring 'Regime Change' and intervening in Syria's Civil War. When the war ends, the U.S. and Saudi Arabia especially, should be required to pay War Reparations to the Syrian People.

Wrong shit for brains, at the end of the civil war if there is any justice assad will be hanged, and iran will pay reparations for helping slaughter 500K syrians so as to keep their pet in power to rule over the 85% of the population that hated him. You're as big a fucking idiot as I've seen on this board, ever - and I've been here a long time.

Boy, you sure are all in on that American Government/Corporate Media propaganda thing. The U.S. is the main cause of all the bloody carnage we're currently seeing in the Middle East. It had no valid or legal justification to declare 'Regime Change' and intervene in Syria's Civil War. Period, end of story.

 

[paulitician]

Yeah, if Russia and Iran hadn't intervened, ISIS would have taken Syria. It's a very sad tragic foreign policy. Our Government continues to create brutal Frankensteins to do its bidding.

The only reason I can think of someone willing to look as fucking stupid as you on a public forum is money, but whoever is paying you is not getting their money's worth.

ISIS DID NOT EVEN FUCKING APPEAR in the syrian uprising for YEARS after it started, asshole moron. Had assad not started massacring the civilian population, a rational, sane government could have been initiated, but then assad and his cronies would not have been able to rape the country of its finances any longer.

Funny how fucking scumbags like you attack Israel/US for non-democratic actions, but support the world's worst dictatorial vermin like assad.

It started with creating Al Qaeda to fight the Soviets, and has continued right up to creating ISIS to kill Assad. ISIS was the 'Good Guy in Syria, as long as it stuck to getting Assad. But as usual, Blow Back blew in and they were declared the 'Bad Guy' in Iraq. It's an awful Foreign Policy. It has to be changed.

You're too unintelligent and honestly, below me for me to respond any longer. Anyone who thinks that ISIS=al qaeda is way, way too fucking stupid to be allowed to post on a political forum.

It was Syria's Civil war. It was none of our business. Obviously our meddling has made things so much worse over there. Many many more Syrians have been killed because of our support and creation of brutal groups like ISIS. It's time for big change in our Foreign Policy. No more 'Regime Change' meddling Bullshit.

 

[paulitician]

LOL----BS Without massive US/Saudi/Pakistani funding, arming and training, there would have never been an Al Qaeda. Hence, no 9/11 and Jihad insanity we're seeing throughout the world today.

Right idiot asshole, because other than al qaeda there's no other arab muslim terrorist groups operating over the past 50 years...you fucking low IQ asshole moron.

Which one murdered and maimed thousands of Americans on 9/11? Right idiot asshole, the one your own Government created. But don't worry, all you warmongering bastards are gonna see more of your chickens coming home to roost. You think it ends with 9/11? Think again. Unless we dramatically change our Foreign Policy, there's gonna be lots more chickens coming home to roost.

 

[paulitician]

Yeah, it's been proven Turkey was buying ISIS-seized oil all along. Turkey, another one of our 'Good Buddies', has been helping ISIS for awhile. It's just another sad bloody mess in the Middle East. We need to sop all the meddling and disengage from the region. We've created enough horrific chaos over there.

Yay, let's keep changing the subject because we're too fucking stupid to defend any of our moronic conspiracy theories...wow you are a fucking idiot.

It has been proven Turkey was helping ISIS in Syria. It was providing logistical and financial support.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Bin Laden's group and other radical groups worked closely with the CIA in Afghanistan. They couldn't have defeated the Soviets without the CIA.

You fringies create an alternative reality that you eventually begin to believe. There is no historical fact to the nonsense you so desperately cling to. Under Jimmy Carter, the USA began supplying the Mujahadeen with arm, particularly the Stinger hand held SAM that could down a KA-50 Hokum, the Russian gun ships that were shredding the Afghan resistance. The CIA provided training on these and other arms.

Osama bin Laden was not involved in these efforts or training.

Allegations of CIA assistance to Osama bin Laden - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[paulitician]

Bin Laden's group and other radical groups worked closely with the CIA in Afghanistan. They couldn't have defeated the Soviets without the CIA.

You fringies create an alternative reality that you eventually begin to believe. There is no historical fact to the nonsense you so desperately cling to. Under Jimmy Carter, the USA began supplying the Mujahadeen with arm, particularly the Stinger hand held SAM that could down a KA-50 Hokum, the Russian gun ships that were shredding the Afghan resistance. The CIA provided training on these and other arms.

Osama bin Laden was not involved in these efforts or training.

Allegations of CIA assistance to Osama bin Laden - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

No, those assertions are preposterous. Of course Bin Laden's group received money, weapons, and training from American/Saudi/Pakistani intelligence agencies. It was vital to the effort to oust the Soviets. Bin Laden's group was just one of many radical Islamist groups to receive American support.

 

[rhodescholar]

Bin Laden's group and other radical groups worked closely with the CIA in Afghanistan. They couldn't have defeated the Soviets without the CIA.

You fringies create an alternative reality that you eventually begin to believe. There is no historical fact to the nonsense you so desperately cling to. Under Jimmy Carter, the USA began supplying the Mujahadeen with arm, particularly the Stinger hand held SAM that could down a KA-50 Hokum, the Russian gun ships that were shredding the Afghan resistance. The CIA provided training on these and other arms.

Osama bin Laden was not involved in these efforts or training.

Allegations of CIA assistance to Osama bin Laden - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

No, those assertions are preposterous. Of course Bin Laden's group received money, weapons, and training from American/Saudi/Pakistani intelligence agencies. It was vital to the effort to oust the Soviets. Bin Laden's group was just one of many radical Islamist groups to receive American support.

Idiot, the taliban is not al qaeda you stupid fucking bottom-feeding moron.

 

[rhodescholar]

Boy, you sure are all in on that American Government/Corporate Media propaganda thing. The U.S. is the main cause of all the bloody carnage we're currently seeing in the Middle East. It had no valid or legal justification to declare 'Regime Change' and intervene in Syria's Civil War. Period, end of story.

Stupid asshole, who has been barrel-bombing whole cities for YEARS? That was assad.

Moron, who sent in militias to slaughter women and children at Houla and Baniyas? That was assad.

Fucking retard, it would be so much better if pieces of shit like you just stopped posting.

 

[rhodescholar]

Bin Laden's group and other radical groups worked closely with the CIA in Afghanistan. They couldn't have defeated the Soviets without the CIA.

You fringies create an alternative reality that you eventually begin to believe. There is no historical fact to the nonsense you so desperately cling to. Under Jimmy Carter, the USA began supplying the Mujahadeen with arm, particularly the Stinger hand held SAM that could down a KA-50 Hokum, the Russian gun ships that were shredding the Afghan resistance. The CIA provided training on these and other arms.

Osama bin Laden was not involved in these efforts or training.

Allegations of CIA assistance to Osama bin Laden - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

There is a stark similarity of the posts from low IQ filth like that poster, and many others who claim the US started the syrian war, defend assad/iran/russia, etc. I believe that they are pro-putin russian internet trolling turds who are trying to misinform and misdirect the facts about assad, iran and russian tactics which have killed over 500K people there, and caused millions of refugees.

 

[Sally]

I hear ya, but don't bother. Most Americans can't and won't accept the fact the U.S. and Saudi Arabia created ISIS. They created it to 'Regime Change' Assad. The U.S. and Saudi Arabia have been the chief financiers of radical Islamic groups for many years. It dates all the way back to Afghanistan and the Soviets. What later became the Taliban and Al Qaeda, were created by the U.S. and Saudi Arabia to oust the Soviets.

They just repeated the process in Syria with the creation of ISIS. They've used these brutal groups to do their bidding for years. But unfortunately, war is all Americans know. They're indoctrinated on supporting endless war. And then they're shocked when terrorist attacks happen at home. What do they expect? Of course chickens are gonna come home to roost. That's the logical expected result. But you can't reason with most of em. It's very sad.

I have requested multiple times from uninformed, conspiracy theory-driven dimwits like this to explain exactly how the "US created ISIS" - and they never succeed, no surprise there. There seems to be segments of the population who will blame every bad aspect of the mideast on the US, no matter how fucking awful the people there behave.

As an aside, there are few funnier things than a rabid ron paul fanatic claiming other people cannot be reasoned with...just hilarious.

Since ISIS is backed by those Iraqi Generals who were dismissed after the Iraq War, who knows how much money they had stashed away during the Saddam Hussein's regime. Does anyone honestly think that all those coming from different parts of the world to join ISIS would have been able to conquer all that territory if they weren't led by experienced military men. Probably if these generals had been kept on, there would never have been any group called ISIS. As for weapons, there are arms dealers all over who will sell arms to anyone willing to pay for them.

As it was stated by ISIS when they first appeared on the scene, that Syria was the stepping stone to the new Caliphate. They saw the chaos in Syria due to the Civil War, and saw their chance then to begin their start on their dream of a Caliphate.

There are many articles on the Internet about the leaders of ISIS being ex-Iraqi generals. Here is one of them.

How Disbanding the Iraqi Army Fueled ISIS

 

[skye]

War with Syria!

NO!

A resounding NO!

got it?