War on The Rich: Dumbest Idea in History of Man

Well thank you to Mr. H. for responding. I am not sure why the anti-capitalists avoid my threads like an Ebola patient, but they do. I spend all this time and energy typing up a truly educational resource for pinheads and they ignore it.

In fact, I think maybe I DO get it... I understand the strategy... Ignore Boss! When he posts a thread about capitalism, just ignore it and avoid it!

Well, that's okay, us capitalists can have a conversation without you. ;)

Liberals only talk in sound bites
 
So you want to listen to the Rich, I posted a quote from Andrew Carnegie.

Hey, I can appreciate Carnegie and what he's saying, money isn't everything. I personally know very wealthy people who benevolently give massive amounts of their fortunes to various philanthropic causes. That's the great thing about having lots of really wealthy people around, the money flows generously.

What I can't figure out is why your stupid ass wants to make this the enemy?

It's the Rich who made the not-rich the enemy.

It wasn't the working class who moved the work to China, was it?
They have made working class Americans the enemy. It is not the rich who are being portrayed as greedy and selfish....it is the workers
We have the GOP to thank

Starting with unions. It's greed if the workers want a bigger share of the wealth produced by an industry, and yet,

it's somehow good, according to these apologists for the wealthy, if the rich owners of the industry get to keep as big a share as they can.

In fact, these apologists are all for taking away every bit possible of the ability of the workers to fight for a bigger share.
It's not the only double standard they labor under, they blow huge holes in budgets giving hand-outs to the wealthy with no demonstrable economic benefit while trying to destroy social programs that have solid stabilizing benefits to society.
There are no hand-outs to the wealthy.

You in fact, cannot show any case in which the government has given money to the rich. None.
 
The wealth of any nation is finite. The more of it the rich concentrate in their own hands, the less there is left for everyone else.
A proven lie.

It's mathematically impossible to divide a pie into pieces that then add up to a sum bigger than the original pie.
I know the argument that he is making and the flaw is that liquid assets are the essential part of wealth that grows the economy. Theoretically there is no end of wealth but there is a definite limit to economic activity and it is all based on how much wealth is allowed to flow through the economy and how much personal debt is dragging it down.
Its more complicated than that, but in essence, as long as no entity interferes with or hampers growth, wealth is grown and infinite.
What I was talking about is liquidity, huge piles of wealth are of no benefit to society until it is spent or invested in something that creates jobs. I could have a hundred trillion dollars but the relatively small amount I would spend is all that matters to the economy.
 
It's not the only double standard they labor under, they blow huge holes in budgets giving hand-outs to the wealthy with no demonstrable economic benefit while trying to destroy social programs that have solid stabilizing benefits to society.

So government is controlled by the wealthy, and you post all day on message boards about wanting to grow government. Liar, you don't believe that. It's your Marxist talking point.

Sadly, you're right even though you are lying that you believe it. Government should be small, it's inherently corrupted by money. That's the best way to protect our freedom, have a little of it as possible to corrupt.
 
What I was talking about is liquidity, huge piles of wealth are of no benefit to society until it is spent or invested in something that creates jobs. I could have a hundred trillion dollars but the relatively small amount I would spend is all that matters to the economy.

Every investment creates jobs
 
Hey, I can appreciate Carnegie and what he's saying, money isn't everything. I personally know very wealthy people who benevolently give massive amounts of their fortunes to various philanthropic causes. That's the great thing about having lots of really wealthy people around, the money flows generously.

What I can't figure out is why your stupid ass wants to make this the enemy?

It's the Rich who made the not-rich the enemy.

It wasn't the working class who moved the work to China, was it?
They have made working class Americans the enemy. It is not the rich who are being portrayed as greedy and selfish....it is the workers
We have the GOP to thank

Starting with unions. It's greed if the workers want a bigger share of the wealth produced by an industry, and yet,

it's somehow good, according to these apologists for the wealthy, if the rich owners of the industry get to keep as big a share as they can.

In fact, these apologists are all for taking away every bit possible of the ability of the workers to fight for a bigger share.
It's not the only double standard they labor under, they blow huge holes in budgets giving hand-outs to the wealthy with no demonstrable economic benefit while trying to destroy social programs that have solid stabilizing benefits to society.
There are no hand-outs to the wealthy.

You in fact, cannot show any case in which the government has given money to the rich. None.
You people like to call them tax cuts and "tax incentives to promote growth". They have a negative effect on revenue and are no different than spending.
 
What I was talking about is liquidity, huge piles of wealth are of no benefit to society until it is spent or invested in something that creates jobs. I could have a hundred trillion dollars but the relatively small amount I would spend is all that matters to the economy.

Every investment creates jobs

Then in a consumer driven economy like ours, every pay raise creates jobs.
 
What I was talking about is liquidity, huge piles of wealth are of no benefit to society until it is spent or invested in something that creates jobs. I could have a hundred trillion dollars but the relatively small amount I would spend is all that matters to the economy.

Every investment creates jobs

And if a retailer invests in automated cash registers to replace human cashiers?
 
What I was talking about is liquidity, huge piles of wealth are of no benefit to society until it is spent or invested in something that creates jobs. I could have a hundred trillion dollars but the relatively small amount I would spend is all that matters to the economy.

Every investment creates jobs
Nope, there are a whole class of investments that are no more than casino bets on worthless paper and have no positive effect on the economy.
 
occupied said:
It's not the only double standard they labor under, they blow huge holes in budgets giving hand-outs to the wealthy with no demonstrable economic benefit while trying to destroy social programs that have solid stabilizing benefits to society.
There are no hand-outs to the wealthy.

You in fact, cannot show any case in which the government has given money to the rich. None.
You people like to call them tax cuts and "tax incentives to promote growth". They have a negative effect on revenue and are no different than spending.

So when 1% pay 40% of taxes and 5% pay 60% and 50% pay zero, how is that "giving hand-outs to the wealthy?"
 
What I was talking about is liquidity, huge piles of wealth are of no benefit to society until it is spent or invested in something that creates jobs. I could have a hundred trillion dollars but the relatively small amount I would spend is all that matters to the economy.

Every investment creates jobs
Nope, there are a whole class of investments that are no more than casino bets on worthless paper and have no positive effect on the economy.

Such as...
 
We should continue to subsidize the Walton's who inherited their wealth and don't have enough billions stashed away. Without our help they will take a half a decade to reach a 200 billion dollar stash of cash.
 
We should continue to subsidize the Walton's who inherited their wealth and don't have enough billions stashed away. Without our help they will take a half a decade to reach a 200 billion dollar stash of cash.

The Waltons are subsidizing government by providing employment and a career path to low, low end workers who otherwise could not support themselves at all.
 
The wealth of any nation is finite. The more of it the rich concentrate in their own hands, the less there is left for everyone else.
A proven lie.

It's mathematically impossible to divide a pie into pieces that then add up to a sum bigger than the original pie.
I know the argument that he is making and the flaw is that liquid assets are the essential part of wealth that grows the economy. Theoretically there is no end of wealth but there is a definite limit to economic activity and it is all based on how much wealth is allowed to flow through the economy and how much personal debt is dragging it down.
Its more complicated than that, but in essence, as long as no entity interferes with or hampers growth, wealth is grown and infinite.
What I was talking about is liquidity, huge piles of wealth are of no benefit to society until it is spent or invested in something that creates jobs. I could have a hundred trillion dollars but the relatively small amount I would spend is all that matters to the economy.
which is no ones business but the owner of the liquidity.

I thought you people were talking about income inequality, not how much assets someone had.
 
What I was talking about is liquidity, huge piles of wealth are of no benefit to society until it is spent or invested in something that creates jobs. I could have a hundred trillion dollars but the relatively small amount I would spend is all that matters to the economy.

Every investment creates jobs
Nope, there are a whole class of investments that are no more than casino bets on worthless paper and have no positive effect on the economy.
Again, having no bearing on the economy means that they have no interest to anyone at all, right? After all, if they do not affect the economy badly, then they harm no one.
 
What I was talking about is liquidity, huge piles of wealth are of no benefit to society until it is spent or invested in something that creates jobs. I could have a hundred trillion dollars but the relatively small amount I would spend is all that matters to the economy.

Every investment creates jobs
Nope, there are a whole class of investments that are no more than casino bets on worthless paper and have no positive effect on the economy.

Such as...
Ask AIG, they foolishly insured enough worthless shit with no real value to crash the economy. It's the stuff bubbles are made of.
 
What I was talking about is liquidity, huge piles of wealth are of no benefit to society until it is spent or invested in something that creates jobs. I could have a hundred trillion dollars but the relatively small amount I would spend is all that matters to the economy.

Every investment creates jobs

And if a retailer invests in automated cash registers to replace human cashiers?
Sounds like the cashier who thought they could go on forever just ringing in sales is out of luck. Do you even care if they have found or acquired new skills? Or do you believe a job should just go on forever?
 
We should continue to subsidize the Walton's who inherited their wealth and don't have enough billions stashed away. Without our help they will take a half a decade to reach a 200 billion dollar stash of cash.
How have the Walton;s been subsidized?

Taking advantage of existing tax codes is NOT a subsidy, so provide something of real value to the conversation.
 
We should continue to subsidize the Walton's who inherited their wealth and don't have enough billions stashed away. Without our help they will take a half a decade to reach a 200 billion dollar stash of cash.

The Waltons are subsidizing government by providing employment and a career path to low, low end workers who otherwise could not support themselves at all.

Walmart didn't create retailing. They replaced others in retailing.

The workers you're referring to would be working at other retailers doing what Walmart does if Walmart didn't exist.
 
What I was talking about is liquidity, huge piles of wealth are of no benefit to society until it is spent or invested in something that creates jobs. I could have a hundred trillion dollars but the relatively small amount I would spend is all that matters to the economy.

Every investment creates jobs

And if a retailer invests in automated cash registers to replace human cashiers?
Sounds like the cashier who thought they could go on forever just ringing in sales is out of luck. Do you even care if they have found or acquired new skills? Or do you believe a job should just go on forever?

The other idiot said every investment creates jobs. Go argue with him, fuckwit.
 

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