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Holy shit.
All they were doing..it seems, was MONITORING gun sales.
It wasn't even like Wide Reciever..where the ATF actually had the guns to begin with.
So basically..they just watched the sales..went to prosecutors in Arizona to arrest these folks..and the prosecutors refused.
THAT'S THE BIG SCANDAL?
Well it is, sorta, because it's the gun nuts that kept the ATF from stopping the gun walking.
Wait, so they say buy and Let guns get bought here and taken there but it's okay because they were not our guns?
Wow you are a fucking idiot.
Yeah they were our Guns in Wide Receiver, you know why? so we could FUCKING HIDE radio Tacking Devices on them, and actually Track the FUCKING GUNS.
What is the Point of simply watching a Gun Deal go Down, and letting the guns walk. What the hell do you expect to gain by it? Hmmm?
But they weren't our guns in F&F. The ATF was powerless to legally do anything due to, you guessed it, gun laws.
This whole "the ATF killed Brian Terry" is starting to look a little ghoulish.
This is going to be a different story in a week.
No. No one thinks that. They DO think it applies to one situation and not another.
This is the same as asking your superior "permission to speak freely sir".
And the POTUS is directly involved.... was Obama involved or not???
Read it Sallow... you are wrong man.
I'm not wrong at all.
I can read it fine.
Here's the thing. You guys are inconsistent. You think what applies to one Person doesn't apply to another.
Precedent and Equal treatment are important when you are dealing with matters of the law.
Once that breaks done..it goes to heck.
Holy shit.
All they were doing..it seems, was MONITORING gun sales.
It wasn't even like Wide Reciever..where the ATF actually had the guns to begin with.
So basically..they just watched the sales..went to prosecutors in Arizona to arrest these folks..and the prosecutors refused.There was no effort to get more guns to the straw purchasers, Eban said in an interview with host Al Sharpton, summarizing her findings. The ATF agents in question did everything that they could to seize guns, and basically prosecutors determined that they didnt have grounds under the laws as written to seize most of the guns that wound up flowing ultimately to criminals; that is a far cry from guns being walked.
Fortune report complicates Fast and Furious story. Writer: 'There was no effort to get more guns to the straw purchasers' - Lean Forward
THAT'S THE BIG SCANDAL?
Well it is, sorta, because it's the gun nuts that kept the ATF from stopping the gun walking.
A day ahead of a vote to find Attorney General Eric Holder in contempt of Congress, House Oversight Committee Chairman Darrell Issa (R-CA) said his committee is no longer even strongly suspicious that highest ranking law enforcement officer in the country knew that guns “walked” during the botched ATF operation known as Fast and Furious.
“During the inception and the participation through the death of Brian Terry, we have no evidence nor do we currently have strong suspicion” that Holder knew of the tactics, Issa said during testimony before the House Rules Committee on Wednesday.
A day ahead of a vote to find Attorney General Eric Holder in contempt of Congress, House Oversight Committee Chairman Darrell Issa (R-CA) said his committee is no longer even strongly suspicious that highest ranking law enforcement officer in the country knew that guns walked during the botched ATF operation known as Fast and Furious.
During the inception and the participation through the death of Brian Terry, we have no evidence nor do we currently have strong suspicion that Holder knew of the tactics, Issa said during testimony before the House Rules Committee on Wednesday.
Holder Contempt: Issa No Longer Suspicious AG Knew Fast And Furious Gunwalking | TPMMuckraker
And yet the Repukes are going to hold the vote anyway. And why? Because they hate Democrats more than they hate anyone else. Witch hunt.
No. No one thinks that. They DO think it applies to one situation and not another.This is the same as asking your superior "permission to speak freely sir".
And the POTUS is directly involved.... was Obama involved or not???
Read it Sallow... you are wrong man.
I'm not wrong at all.
I can read it fine.
Here's the thing. You guys are inconsistent. You think what applies to one Person doesn't apply to another.
Precedent and Equal treatment are important when you are dealing with matters of the law.
Once that breaks done..it goes to heck.
Situations, not persons.
A day ahead of a vote to find Attorney General Eric Holder in contempt of Congress, House Oversight Committee Chairman Darrell Issa (R-CA) said his committee is no longer even strongly suspicious that highest ranking law enforcement officer in the country knew that guns “walked” during the botched ATF operation known as Fast and Furious.
“During the inception and the participation through the death of Brian Terry, we have no evidence nor do we currently have strong suspicion” that Holder knew of the tactics, Issa said during testimony before the House Rules Committee on Wednesday.
Holder Contempt: Issa No Longer Suspicious AG Knew Fast And Furious Gunwalking | TPMMuckraker
And yet the Repukes are going to hold the vote anyway. And why? Because they hate Democrats more than they hate anyone else. Witch hunt.
No. No one thinks that. They DO think it applies to one situation and not another.I'm not wrong at all.
I can read it fine.
Here's the thing. You guys are inconsistent. You think what applies to one Person doesn't apply to another.
Precedent and Equal treatment are important when you are dealing with matters of the law.
Once that breaks done..it goes to heck.
Situations, not persons.
Oh bullshit.
It was a general example.
Bush wasn't involved in Cheney's meetings with Energy heads.
Yet, executive priviledge extended to the Vice President.
Stupid kooks are panicking and will swallow anything.:
WASHINGTON - Attorney General Eric Holder Tuesday acknowledged that an agency under his supervision, ATF, intentionally let weapons fall into the hands of Mexican drug cartels.
Watch Attkisson's full report below.
It's a controversial practice called "gunwalking" that tried to get big fish criminals. Instead, it put thousands of guns on the street. Many were used in violent crimes and murders.
CBS News investigative correspondent Sharyl Attkisson report Holder made the difficult admission to Congress. "Any instance of so-called gunwalking is unacceptable. Regrettably, this tactic was used as part of Fast and Furious."
Eric Holder calls "gunwalking" unacceptable, regrets tactic as part of Fast and Furious - CBS News Investigates - CBS News
Sallow, you're an OK poster most of the time, and other times I truly believe you are retarded.
Just being honest.
CaféAuLait;5527529 said:Wait, so they say buy and Let guns get bought here and taken there but it's okay because they were not our guns?
Wow you are a fucking idiot.
Yeah they were our Guns in Wide Receiver, you know why? so we could FUCKING HIDE radio Tacking Devices on them, and actually Track the FUCKING GUNS.
What is the Point of simply watching a Gun Deal go Down, and letting the guns walk. What the hell do you expect to gain by it? Hmmm?
But they weren't our guns in F&F. The ATF was powerless to legally do anything due to, you guessed it, gun laws.
This whole "the ATF killed Brian Terry" is starting to look a little ghoulish.
This is going to be a different story in a week.
What?
So the ATF TOLD the gun dealers to sell the guns, the Gun dealers WROTE to the ATF and told them they did not want to do this. ATF writes them back and tells them they are doing a service for their country and to sell the guns because they will track them, and somehow the ATF was powerless?
No. No one thinks that. They DO think it applies to one situation and not another.
Situations, not persons.
Oh bullshit.
It was a general example.
Bush wasn't involved in Cheney's meetings with Energy heads.
Yet, executive priviledge extended to the Vice President.
Are you saying Holder is incompetent?
Oh bullshit.
It was a general example.
Bush wasn't involved in Cheney's meetings with Energy heads.
Yet, executive priviledge extended to the Vice President.
Are you saying Holder is incompetent?
How do you come up with that?
Right. Because firing someone is exactly the same SITUATION as covering up putting guns in the hands of the killers of two federal agents and never doing a thing about it.No. No one thinks that. They DO think it applies to one situation and not another.I'm not wrong at all.
I can read it fine.
Here's the thing. You guys are inconsistent. You think what applies to one Person doesn't apply to another.
Precedent and Equal treatment are important when you are dealing with matters of the law.
Once that breaks done..it goes to heck.
Situations, not persons.
Oh bullshit.
It was a general example.
Bush wasn't involved in Cheney's meetings with Energy heads.
Yet, executive priviledge extended to the Vice President.
I guess Issa is a lib."I don't know nothing 'bout walking no guns!" -- Holders excuse believed by Libs
I guess Issa is a lib."I don't know nothing 'bout walking no guns!" -- Holders excuse believed by Libs
