L.K.Eder
unbannable non-troll
Lol. I knew it. Pathetic.It is a tank, designed to destroy other tanks.
holy fuck.
No, it isn't. it is technically an assault gun. It has no turret, thus it CAN'T be a tank. learn your designations.
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Lol. I knew it. Pathetic.It is a tank, designed to destroy other tanks.
holy fuck.
No, it isn't. it is technically an assault gun. It has no turret, thus it CAN'T be a tank. learn your designations.
The point is, they surrendered only after the a bombs. They were prepared to fight to the last man. The military was not ready to surrender, they were sure they could inflict so much damage on the US they could get something short of unconditional surrender. They were probably right though not before millions died in an invasion.The problem you have is they didn’t fight to the bitter end. They surrendered. In addition, if the Emperor had surrendered earlier, the military would have too. Why? Because that is exactly what they did ultimately.Really?? It's likely that more people died in the Rape of Nanjing than from both A-Bombs. And that was just one conquered city. Up to 25,000 died in the Dresden fire bombing. Several million German and Russian POWs died.I can’t agree. The massive arial/fire bombings were as bad as the atrocities committed by the Germans and Japanese. The a-bombings were worse than anything they did, since Japan was trying to surrender for months beforehand
Japan's surrender offer was conditional until the A-bombs.
Whatever.
Americans like to believe that mass murdering thousands of innocent civilians of a nation defeated, defenseless, and desperately trying to surrender, was justified.
Proving government propaganda works.
And you are a victim of socialist propaganda. The facts are the japanese military was prepared to fight to the bitter end. They created "Pole Bayonets" for the civilian population to use by affixing them to spears the theory being that as soon as the Marines hit the beach the civilians would rush in with their spears and attack the Marines before our superior firepower could annihilate them. This is all well known history. Not theory, or opinion, but HISTORY that is documented by both written, and physical objects.
Below is one of those pole bayonets.
Lol. I knew it. Pathetic.It is a tank, designed to destroy other tanks.
holy fuck.
No, it isn't. it is technically an assault gun. It has no turret, thus it CAN'T be a tank. learn your designations.
Your LIE did not work in the numerous threads you have pedaled it in before it won't work here, again for the TRULY IGNORANT and STUPID, the Japanese Government NEVER offered to surrender in World War IIReally?? It's likely that more people died in the Rape of Nanjing than from both A-Bombs. And that was just one conquered city. Up to 25,000 died in the Dresden fire bombing. Several million German and Russian POWs died.I can’t agree. The massive arial/fire bombings were as bad as the atrocities committed by the Germans and Japanese. The a-bombings were worse than anything they did, since Japan was trying to surrender for months beforehand
Japan's surrender offer was conditional until the A-bombs.
Whatever.
Americans like to believe that mass murdering thousands of innocent civilians of a nation defeated, defenseless, and desperately trying to surrender, was justified.
Proving government propaganda works.
Again you fucking MORON Iwo was not taken to use to bomb Japan it was to rescue damaged bombers coming back from raids and to station fighters on.WRONG, but you won't accept the truth. You can'tJapan was neither defeated nor defenseless. How many casualties did they inflict on the Marines at Iwo? If they were desperately trying to surrender why did they refuse to surrender unconditionally?Whatever.
Americans like to believe that mass murdering thousands of innocent civilians of a nation defeated, defenseless, and desperately trying to surrender, was justified.
Proving government propaganda works.
Iwo was early in 1945 and does not apply to our discussion, Secondly, Iwo was nothing but a terrible waste of young American lives, for nothing but more stars for the commanders. Iwo was not used after it was taken, for aerial bombing of a defenseless nation. Do you know from what base the a-bombs were delivered? It wasn't Iwo.
As a typical duped American, (I was there once), you fail to understand Japan and the murderous consequences of FDR's bloodthirsty "unconditional surrender" requirement.
If they were so fanatical, as Americans have been taught, why didn’t they fight to the death? They could have ignored the Emperor’s surrender order.The point is, they surrendered only after the a bombs. They were prepared to fight to the last man. The military was not ready to surrender, they were sure they could inflict so much damage on the US they could get something short of unconditional surrender. They were probably right though not before millions died in an invasion.The problem you have is they didn’t fight to the bitter end. They surrendered. In addition, if the Emperor had surrendered earlier, the military would have too. Why? Because that is exactly what they did ultimately.Really?? It's likely that more people died in the Rape of Nanjing than from both A-Bombs. And that was just one conquered city. Up to 25,000 died in the Dresden fire bombing. Several million German and Russian POWs died.I can’t agree. The massive arial/fire bombings were as bad as the atrocities committed by the Germans and Japanese. The a-bombings were worse than anything they did, since Japan was trying to surrender for months beforehand
Japan's surrender offer was conditional until the A-bombs.
Whatever.
Americans like to believe that mass murdering thousands of innocent civilians of a nation defeated, defenseless, and desperately trying to surrender, was justified.
Proving government propaganda works.
And you are a victim of socialist propaganda. The facts are the japanese military was prepared to fight to the bitter end. They created "Pole Bayonets" for the civilian population to use by affixing them to spears the theory being that as soon as the Marines hit the beach the civilians would rush in with their spears and attack the Marines before our superior firepower could annihilate them. This is all well known history. Not theory, or opinion, but HISTORY that is documented by both written, and physical objects.
Below is one of those pole bayonets.
That number has been proven over and over to be nothing but a LIE.Got a ref for the numbers?The war crimes that Russia, Germany, and Japan committed were orders of magnitude worse than the US or the Brits (unless you count the area bombing of cities, then it was one or two orders of magnitude worse).They also committed some of the worst war crimes so I wouldn't call them 'professional'.The Waffen SS during WWII were arguably the best trained and most professional combat soldiers to fight in any modern war. Their field grade and staff officers came from Prussian families who's ancestors had been military men for several generations. ...
Not advocating war crimes but so did the Russians, Japanese, and U.S. committed atrocities. War is Hell.
The 88MM gun was also used in the Tiger and Panther tanks and probably others.
Includes 1000000 Iraqi civilians?
No actually the Army staged a Coup to stop the surrender.The problem you have is they didn’t fight to the bitter end. They surrendered. In addition, if the Emperor had surrendered earlier, the military would have too. Why? Because that is exactly what they did ultimately.Really?? It's likely that more people died in the Rape of Nanjing than from both A-Bombs. And that was just one conquered city. Up to 25,000 died in the Dresden fire bombing. Several million German and Russian POWs died.I can’t agree. The massive arial/fire bombings were as bad as the atrocities committed by the Germans and Japanese. The a-bombings were worse than anything they did, since Japan was trying to surrender for months beforehand
Japan's surrender offer was conditional until the A-bombs.
Whatever.
Americans like to believe that mass murdering thousands of innocent civilians of a nation defeated, defenseless, and desperately trying to surrender, was justified.
Proving government propaganda works.
And you are a victim of socialist propaganda. The facts are the japanese military was prepared to fight to the bitter end. They created "Pole Bayonets" for the civilian population to use by affixing them to spears the theory being that as soon as the Marines hit the beach the civilians would rush in with their spears and attack the Marines before our superior firepower could annihilate them. This is all well known history. Not theory, or opinion, but HISTORY that is documented by both written, and physical objects.
Below is one of those pole bayonets.
Go away warmonger. I’ve schooled you way too many times.No actually the Army staged a Coup to stop the surrender.The problem you have is they didn’t fight to the bitter end. They surrendered. In addition, if the Emperor had surrendered earlier, the military would have too. Why? Because that is exactly what they did ultimately.Really?? It's likely that more people died in the Rape of Nanjing than from both A-Bombs. And that was just one conquered city. Up to 25,000 died in the Dresden fire bombing. Several million German and Russian POWs died.I can’t agree. The massive arial/fire bombings were as bad as the atrocities committed by the Germans and Japanese. The a-bombings were worse than anything they did, since Japan was trying to surrender for months beforehand
Japan's surrender offer was conditional until the A-bombs.
Whatever.
Americans like to believe that mass murdering thousands of innocent civilians of a nation defeated, defenseless, and desperately trying to surrender, was justified.
Proving government propaganda works.
And you are a victim of socialist propaganda. The facts are the japanese military was prepared to fight to the bitter end. They created "Pole Bayonets" for the civilian population to use by affixing them to spears the theory being that as soon as the Marines hit the beach the civilians would rush in with their spears and attack the Marines before our superior firepower could annihilate them. This is all well known history. Not theory, or opinion, but HISTORY that is documented by both written, and physical objects.
Below is one of those pole bayonets.
No you keep posting lies I have proven were lies and failed to answer even one question with actual facts. You have no links and no proof of your bullshit claims.Go away warmonger. I’ve schooled you way too many times.No actually the Army staged a Coup to stop the surrender.The problem you have is they didn’t fight to the bitter end. They surrendered. In addition, if the Emperor had surrendered earlier, the military would have too. Why? Because that is exactly what they did ultimately.Really?? It's likely that more people died in the Rape of Nanjing than from both A-Bombs. And that was just one conquered city. Up to 25,000 died in the Dresden fire bombing. Several million German and Russian POWs died.
Japan's surrender offer was conditional until the A-bombs.
Whatever.
Americans like to believe that mass murdering thousands of innocent civilians of a nation defeated, defenseless, and desperately trying to surrender, was justified.
Proving government propaganda works.
And you are a victim of socialist propaganda. The facts are the japanese military was prepared to fight to the bitter end. They created "Pole Bayonets" for the civilian population to use by affixing them to spears the theory being that as soon as the Marines hit the beach the civilians would rush in with their spears and attack the Marines before our superior firepower could annihilate them. This is all well known history. Not theory, or opinion, but HISTORY that is documented by both written, and physical objects.
Below is one of those pole bayonets.
Thankfully their leadership sucked.The valiant Waffen SS were dedicated soldiers who got the job done and achieved their objectives. And woe to any enemy who stood in their way. ....
If they were so fanatical, as Americans have been taught, why didn’t they fight to the death? They could have ignored the Emperor’s surrender order.The point is, they surrendered only after the a bombs. They were prepared to fight to the last man. The military was not ready to surrender, they were sure they could inflict so much damage on the US they could get something short of unconditional surrender. They were probably right though not before millions died in an invasion.The problem you have is they didn’t fight to the bitter end. They surrendered. In addition, if the Emperor had surrendered earlier, the military would have too. Why? Because that is exactly what they did ultimately.Really?? It's likely that more people died in the Rape of Nanjing than from both A-Bombs. And that was just one conquered city. Up to 25,000 died in the Dresden fire bombing. Several million German and Russian POWs died.
Japan's surrender offer was conditional until the A-bombs.
Whatever.
Americans like to believe that mass murdering thousands of innocent civilians of a nation defeated, defenseless, and desperately trying to surrender, was justified.
Proving government propaganda works.
And you are a victim of socialist propaganda. The facts are the japanese military was prepared to fight to the bitter end. They created "Pole Bayonets" for the civilian population to use by affixing them to spears the theory being that as soon as the Marines hit the beach the civilians would rush in with their spears and attack the Marines before our superior firepower could annihilate them. This is all well known history. Not theory, or opinion, but HISTORY that is documented by both written, and physical objects.
Below is one of those pole bayonets.
Do you think it appropriate that our leaders imposed unconditional surrender? I don’t. It caused hundreds of thousands of unnecessary deaths on both sides. Then when they did surrender unconditionally, the war criminal Truman granted their one condition, after he mass murder thousands of innocent civilians with the a-bombs.
Well yeah, Hugo Boss designed them.Waffen SS soldiers wore the coolest looking uniforms and always looked sharp. Even on the battlefield. .....
Well yeah, Hugo Boss designed them.Waffen SS soldiers wore the coolest looking uniforms and always looked sharp. Even on the battlefield. .....
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They don't even land in the top ten. Put down the Kool-Aid...They also committed some of the worst war crimes so I wouldn't call them 'professional'.The Waffen SS during WWII were arguably the best trained and most professional combat soldiers to fight in any modern war. Their field grade and staff officers came from Prussian families who's ancestors had been military men for several generations. ...
If they were so fanatical, as Americans have been taught, why didn’t they fight to the death? They could have ignored the Emperor’s surrender order.The point is, they surrendered only after the a bombs. They were prepared to fight to the last man. The military was not ready to surrender, they were sure they could inflict so much damage on the US they could get something short of unconditional surrender. They were probably right though not before millions died in an invasion.The problem you have is they didn’t fight to the bitter end. They surrendered. In addition, if the Emperor had surrendered earlier, the military would have too. Why? Because that is exactly what they did ultimately.Really?? It's likely that more people died in the Rape of Nanjing than from both A-Bombs. And that was just one conquered city. Up to 25,000 died in the Dresden fire bombing. Several million German and Russian POWs died.
Japan's surrender offer was conditional until the A-bombs.
Whatever.
Americans like to believe that mass murdering thousands of innocent civilians of a nation defeated, defenseless, and desperately trying to surrender, was justified.
Proving government propaganda works.
And you are a victim of socialist propaganda. The facts are the japanese military was prepared to fight to the bitter end. They created "Pole Bayonets" for the civilian population to use by affixing them to spears the theory being that as soon as the Marines hit the beach the civilians would rush in with their spears and attack the Marines before our superior firepower could annihilate them. This is all well known history. Not theory, or opinion, but HISTORY that is documented by both written, and physical objects.
Below is one of those pole bayonets.
Do you think it appropriate that our leaders imposed unconditional surrender? I don’t. It caused hundreds of thousands of unnecessary deaths on both sides. Then when they did surrender unconditionally, the war criminal Truman granted their one condition, after he mass murder thousands of innocent civilians with the a-bombs.
No. The Japanese surrendered unconditionally. Then Truman granted their one condition after he mass murdered thousands of innocent women and children, with the a-bombs.If they were so fanatical, as Americans have been taught, why didn’t they fight to the death? They could have ignored the Emperor’s surrender order.The point is, they surrendered only after the a bombs. They were prepared to fight to the last man. The military was not ready to surrender, they were sure they could inflict so much damage on the US they could get something short of unconditional surrender. They were probably right though not before millions died in an invasion.The problem you have is they didn’t fight to the bitter end. They surrendered. In addition, if the Emperor had surrendered earlier, the military would have too. Why? Because that is exactly what they did ultimately.Whatever.
Americans like to believe that mass murdering thousands of innocent civilians of a nation defeated, defenseless, and desperately trying to surrender, was justified.
Proving government propaganda works.
And you are a victim of socialist propaganda. The facts are the japanese military was prepared to fight to the bitter end. They created "Pole Bayonets" for the civilian population to use by affixing them to spears the theory being that as soon as the Marines hit the beach the civilians would rush in with their spears and attack the Marines before our superior firepower could annihilate them. This is all well known history. Not theory, or opinion, but HISTORY that is documented by both written, and physical objects.
Below is one of those pole bayonets.
Do you think it appropriate that our leaders imposed unconditional surrender? I don’t. It caused hundreds of thousands of unnecessary deaths on both sides. Then when they did surrender unconditionally, the war criminal Truman granted their one condition, after he mass murder thousands of innocent civilians with the a-bombs.
Technically, they didn't surrender unconditionally. The US left one condition that the Japanese insisted on. The Emperor was left in place. Taking that off the table allowed the Japanese People to at least save a little face and saving face to a Japanese Culture is all there is. Until the last round, the Emperor was to be removed and tried like all the Generals and Admirals. So did they surrender Unconditionally? Yes and no.
No. The Japanese surrendered unconditionally. Then Truman granted their one condition after he mass murdered thousands of innocent women and children, with the a-bombs.If they were so fanatical, as Americans have been taught, why didn’t they fight to the death? They could have ignored the Emperor’s surrender order.The point is, they surrendered only after the a bombs. They were prepared to fight to the last man. The military was not ready to surrender, they were sure they could inflict so much damage on the US they could get something short of unconditional surrender. They were probably right though not before millions died in an invasion.The problem you have is they didn’t fight to the bitter end. They surrendered. In addition, if the Emperor had surrendered earlier, the military would have too. Why? Because that is exactly what they did ultimately.And you are a victim of socialist propaganda. The facts are the japanese military was prepared to fight to the bitter end. They created "Pole Bayonets" for the civilian population to use by affixing them to spears the theory being that as soon as the Marines hit the beach the civilians would rush in with their spears and attack the Marines before our superior firepower could annihilate them. This is all well known history. Not theory, or opinion, but HISTORY that is documented by both written, and physical objects.
Below is one of those pole bayonets.
Do you think it appropriate that our leaders imposed unconditional surrender? I don’t. It caused hundreds of thousands of unnecessary deaths on both sides. Then when they did surrender unconditionally, the war criminal Truman granted their one condition, after he mass murder thousands of innocent civilians with the a-bombs.
Technically, they didn't surrender unconditionally. The US left one condition that the Japanese insisted on. The Emperor was left in place. Taking that off the table allowed the Japanese People to at least save a little face and saving face to a Japanese Culture is all there is. Until the last round, the Emperor was to be removed and tried like all the Generals and Admirals. So did they surrender Unconditionally? Yes and no.