Vote 3rd Party

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    Hello all,

    I am a moderate conservative who has in the past supported the Republican party. When I was younger I was more liberal and voted for Clinton both times.

    Today I have finally seen the light. The answer to Americas problems. This answer can not come from Either major party. Neither a Dem or Rep can bring the real reform and change we need.

    Now I know we all have been told to think a vote for a 3rd party is a wasted vote. That it just muddies the waters and helps one of the 2 big parties win. I have in the past believed this and never voted 3rd party.

    However I now believe that voting 3rd party is the only way to real change. Keep in mind here, the 3rd party does not need to win the election. What they need to do is have a very strong showing in the election. Say 20 to 25% of the vote.

    This will cause many things to happen. First in the next election said 3rd party would have a much better chance. Access to funding, access to debates and ballots.

    Also it will force the big 2 parties, to address the reasons why people left their party to go 3rd party. For instance in a bunch of conservatives decide to vote libertarian this time. It should help Push the Republicans to do something to bring Conservatives back to the party.

    I for one believe Both Major parties have lost their way, and do not reflect the values of their constituents.

    So I will be casting my vote down the line for the Libertarian party. Not because I agree with most of what they say, or even a lot of it, but because we need to break this cabal of power sharing by Both are inept political parties. We need more choice and more parties.

    The only way that will ever happen, is if we vote for them!

    CHarles
     
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    Voting 3rd party is throwing a vote down the shitter. What are you going to change?

    Just suppose by some miracle of miracles, a 3rd party candidate was to actually win the Presidency. He'd be a lame duck. You think Democrats and Republicans can't get bipartisan? Threaten their status quo of monopolizing the political power in this country.
     
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    The place to begin developing third party candidates is at the local level.

    Right now the INSIDERS' PARTY (read the elite of both parties in STATE and FEDERAL levels) own the administrative mechanisms that prevent third parties from becoming viable.

    The Green Party, as one example, has a difficult time even getting on ballots in Maine.

    When they've gotten less than the threshold of 5% of the popular vote, one cannot even register as being in that Party since the state doesn't recognize it.
     
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    i believe that is the mindset the OP is wanting to change.

    we do need a strong 3rd party in this country, but i would prefer a centrist one to the libertarian
     
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    GunnyL wrote:
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    Voting 3rd party is throwing a vote down the shitter.
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    Voting for the Demolicans "is throwing a vote down the shitter."
     
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    less than 5% of the vote? what kind of a party is that?

    name the administrative mechanism and why you disagree with them. should any nitwit get onto ballots with a party name? imagine if 500,000 people decided they were each a party wanting to be on the ballot?

    how can the state not recognize a party? all a party has to do is register as a nonprofit or something like that, no?
     
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    grow up you little turd
     
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    doing what you say only strengthens the hold of the Dems and Reps.

    you would never get enough people to vote in enough numbers to change things unless you have a message and a platform. what's your message...'the other guys sucks, let me blow you?"
     
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    GunnyL wrote:
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    Voting 3rd party is throwing a vote down the shitter.
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    I, then, wrote:
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    Voting for the Demolicans "is throwing a vote down the shitter."
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    AtlasShrieked:
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    let me blow you
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    I don't think so...
     
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    As long as people keep thinking the way you do, Nothing will ever change.

    I suggest some of you read my post again. I am advocating what I am, not because I want a 3rd party to win, but because I wish to pressure the current parties to make changes to bring back dejected voters to the fold.

    CHarlse
     

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