Violence Has It's Home On The Left.

PC is under the delusion that anyone who posts neg rep must immediately join the thread and take up a debate.

I hate to break it to you but that's not how these boards or the rep work.
 
Message to Father Slime,
Did you notice all these other folks who fight in public...?

How about you?
What is the disability that prevents you from doing so? Gutless?
No private messages...c'mon out front punk.

I all ready did, what are you blind or something?

Let's get it on slime:
... contrary to the left wing MSM and MSNBC, etc. that perpetrate the slander that there are right wing militias ready to attack the left, and tea party members who insult and attack minorities, violent right wingers stockpiling guns to initiate a civil war, the OP spits the violence thing right back in the face of you lefties: the left is the violent contingent that actually carries out the violence that attempts to destroy parlimentary democracy.

Now, what's with your private messages about 'slander'?

You just can't take it when your cultural meme is smashed...
right Slime?

Let's get that answer, slime...
how about it?
 
PC is under the delusion that anyone who posts neg rep must immediately join the thread and take up a debate.

I hate to break it to you but that's not how these boards or the rep work.

You missed the point, slimey,

There are some 200 posts in this thread....and only one poster is less that adult enough to carry out the battle in public....

that would be Father Slime.

I hate the behind the scenes poster who hasn't the guts to bang it out right here.
Let me name some....

You.
 
How about actually making a point, Slime,,,

Name it: anything in error in the OP?

Do In have to stick to 'Slime,' or can I use your full name, Primordial Ooze.

You're a tool. There were a lot of errors, with links as backing, pointed out to you. You avoided those posts, and picked and chose the ones to respond to that weren't in logical refutation of the OP.

Your thread title is wrong.

A wise man/woman would say: Violence has it's home on the planet.

An unobjective person would point to violence examples on one side of a political spectrum, while not discussing the other, to make an unobjective point. This sort of discussion leads to nothing but logical fallacies and further political divisiveness. It serves as nothing.





As far as your "facts," it's common knowledge that Boothe assasinated Lincoln as a plot to further the Confederacy's war efforts, and he had co-conspirators. He has writings about this, himself, and it's documented history. You don't get to cherry-pick tidbits that assail him as being on "the left" when it's typically a Southern Conservative's household (if any) donning the Confederate flag, and typically pussies on "the left" who decry it.

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. Two months ago, Richard Poplawski, a right-wing extremist, allegedly gunned down three police officers in Pittsburgh, in part because he feared the non-existent "Obama gun ban." A few weeks ago, Scott Roeder, another right-wing extremist, allegedly assassinated Dr. George Tiller in Kansas. A few hours ago, Von Brunn, another right-wing extremist, allegedly opened fire at the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum.

There are other recent examples that bear similar characteristics. This story out of Tennessee from last year continues to haunt.

Knoxville police Sunday evening searched the Levy Drive home of Jim David Adkisson after he allegedly entered the Tennessee Valley Unitarian Universalist Church and killed two people and wounded six others during the presentation of a children's musical. [...]

Inside the house, officers found "Liberalism is a Mental Health Disorder" by radio talk show host Michael Savage, "Let Freedom Ring" by talk show host Sean Hannity, and "The O'Reilly Factor," by television talk show host Bill O'Reilly.

The shotgun-wielding suspect in Sunday's mass shooting at the Tennessee Valley Unitarian Universalist Church was motivated by a hatred of "the liberal movement," and he planned to shoot until police shot him, Knoxville Police Chief Sterling P. Owen IV said this morning.

Adkisson, 58, of Powell wrote a four-page letter in which he stated his "hatred of the liberal movement," Owen said. "Liberals in general, as well as gays."






The Washington Monthly



Does this post not exist as a counter to where "violence's home" is?

Of course that's a silly conclusion based on this post, but it's certainly a post counter to the thread-title, and it's futile to exercise a "post for post" battle of examples of violence from both sides. This thread-premise is a classic logical fallacy. It's classic stereo-typing, and also ill-found stereotyping being that the MAJORITY of people, in general, do NOT practice in "violence."

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Message to Father Slime,
Did you notice all these other folks who fight in public...?

How about you?
What is the disability that prevents you from doing so? Gutless?
No private messages...c'mon out front punk.

I all ready did, what are you blind or something?

Let's get it on slime:
... contrary to the left wing MSM and MSNBC, etc. that perpetrate the slander that there are right wing militias ready to attack the left, and tea party members who insult and attack minorities, violent right wingers stockpiling guns to initiate a civil war, the OP spits the violence thing right back in the face of you lefties: the left is the violent contingent that actually carries out the violence that attempts to destroy parlimentary democracy.

Now, what's with your private messages about 'slander'?

You just can't take it when your cultural meme is smashed...
right Slime?

Let's get that answer, slime...
how about it?
You didn't prove jack because there's lots of violence on the right you have conveniently ignored and continue to ignore. You also haven't even disproven the idea that there are " right wing militias ready to attack the left, and tea party members who insult and attack minorities, violent right wingers stockpiling guns to initiate a civil war,"

And I said slander because you accused someone of wanting to censor something when they said no such thing.
 
Another PC thread where she attempts to smear liberals with guilt by association what a shock!

Hey anyone remember the time she bitched and moaned about liberals attacking them? Gee I wonder why that could be.

How about actually making a point, Slime,,,

Name it: anything in error in the OP?

Do In have to stick to 'Slime,' or can I use your full name, Primordial Ooze.

Your entire post is full of shit.

Let's start with the opening

"it is the left that is typically and repeatedly responsible for actual violence in our society...""

What's your evidence to support this conclusion, no statistics no numbers of any kind just talking about a handful of assassins over a span of many decades.

There's been tons more violence in our society over the decades than those assassins, where's your proof that the left was responsible for that? Oh wait you didn't bring any.

Speaking of which where's all your bitching and moaning about right-wing violence like say the recent abortion murders?

So 'the left is responsible for violence' is now basically a guilt by association fallacy.

Which is all you ever post, whines moans and guilt by association.

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PC is under the delusion that anyone who posts neg rep must immediately join the thread and take up a debate.

I hate to break it to you but that's not how these boards or the rep work.

You missed the point, slimey,

There are some 200 posts in this thread....and only one poster is less that adult enough to carry out the battle in public....

that would be Father Slime.

I hate the behind the scenes poster who hasn't the guts to bang it out right here.
Let me name some....

You.

Oh I'm sorry I wasn't aware that by disagreeing with you and giving you neg rep I was contractually obligated to do battle with you. Oh wait I'm not. Just suck up the neg rep and quit whining like a little bitch.

Hey maybe if I neg rep you 2 more times today you'll have a full blown meltdown. Maybe even put a bounty on my head to prove some bullshit point.
 
Another PC thread where she attempts to smear liberals with guilt by association what a shock!

Hey anyone remember the time she bitched and moaned about liberals attacking them? Gee I wonder why that could be.

How about actually making a point, Slime,,,

Name it: anything in error in the OP?

Do In have to stick to 'Slime,' or can I use your full name, Primordial Ooze.

Your entire post is full of shit.

Let's start with the opening

"it is the left that is typically and repeatedly responsible for actual violence in our society...""

What's your evidence to support this conclusion, no statistics no numbers of any kind just talking about a handful of assassins over a span of many decades.

There's been tons more violence in our society over the decades than those assassins, where's your proof that the left was responsible for that? Oh wait you didn't bring any.

Speaking of which where's all your bitching and moaning about right-wing violence like say the recent abortion murders?

So 'the left is responsible for violence' is now basically a guilt by association fallacy.

Which is all you ever post, whines moans and guilt by association.

Much better, Slimey.

1. One section was on the dishonesty of the MSM i.e. reporting false fear mongering about threats to President Obama.

2. A history of presidential assassinations documenting that all....or you might say the preponderance, of assassinations by left wingers...
a. It becomes "guilt by association" as soon as you claim membership with the groups on the same side of the aisle as the assassins....i.e. the left

3. Post #6, left wing organizations responsible for actual violence, not imaginary threats, outside of presidential assassinations, including police and ordinary citizens.
Did I mention left wing?

"tons more violence in our society over the decades than those assassins, where's your proof that the left was responsible for that? Oh wait you didn't bring any." covered

"no statistics no numbers of any kind just talking about a handful of assassins over a span of many decades."
So, math isn't your strong suit either? Do you know how many Presidents there have been? Can you count the assassinations?
So, what kind of statistics do you need?


"...right-wing violence like say the recent abortion murders?"
I'm a rightwinger, bonehead, if there are such examples of right wing violence, that would be your job....No?
So, how many are you naming? More than presidential assassinations.?
Another strike for you.


So it seems the premise of the OP is correct, either in the specific, i.e. the left is reponsible for violence agaist our Presidents, nor has there been any post that combated the sub heading:
"One of those political themes, supported by the left-wing press, and readily believed by the easily-led, is that political violence is suckled in the bosom of right wing cabals…"
It has been shown to be grossly in error.


See how easy that was Slimster...right out in front of everyone...
didn't hurt too much, did it?
And watch your language.
 
PC is under the delusion that anyone who posts neg rep must immediately join the thread and take up a debate.

I hate to break it to you but that's not how these boards or the rep work.

You missed the point, slimey,

There are some 200 posts in this thread....and only one poster is less that adult enough to carry out the battle in public....

that would be Father Slime.

I hate the behind the scenes poster who hasn't the guts to bang it out right here.
Let me name some....

You.

Oh I'm sorry I wasn't aware that by disagreeing with you and giving you neg rep I was contractually obligated to do battle with you. Oh wait I'm not. Just suck up the neg rep and quit whining like a little bitch.

Hey maybe if I neg rep you 2 more times today you'll have a full blown meltdown. Maybe even put a bounty on my head to prove some bullshit point.

Well, I'll admit that, based on your disabilities, that is far easier for you than debate.
 
1.cherry-picked, means that you don't like it...

2. data which is incorrect in many parts...means you couldn't actually find any 'incorrect data'

3. That's it?

What a loser.

you cherry-picked my post, that means you did not like it, hahaha.
why confront you with evidence when you evade deflect or ignore said evidence.
and you still think "your" OP deserves something else but derision.:lol:

Flimsy and diaphanous.

The 'hahaha' was the best part.

ya got nuttin'

air is getting scarce, huh. luckily for you, your head is full of it. if you were interested, you'd not ignore what others posted who decided to help you realize your errors.

skippy, skippy, skip skip.

BWAHAHAHAHA
 
3. Post #6, left wing organizations responsible for actual violence, not imaginary threats, outside of presidential assassinations, including police and ordinary citizens.
Did I mention left wing?

All that still doesn't count for one fraction of all the violence the country has had, which you continue to claim is responsible from the left.

"tons more violence in our society over the decades than those assassins, where's your proof that the left was responsible for that? Oh wait you didn't bring any." covered

About as much as two drops of paint cover a wall.

"no statistics no numbers of any kind just talking about a handful of assassins over a span of many decades."
So, math isn't your strong suit either? Do you know how many Presidents there have been? Can you count the assassinations?
So, what kind of statistics do you need?

The political leanings of most murderers for starters, you want to pretend violence is only done by people on the left, show me that's so.

"...right-wing violence like say the recent abortion murders?"
I'm a rightwinger, bonehead, if there are such examples of right wing violence, that would be your job....No?

So you wish to ignore those right wing murderers for as long as possible? Figures.
 
I'm going to proclaim that violence has its home in the Catholic Church and to make that case...

...look at all the Irish Catholic violence and terrorism in Northern Ireland over the last century.

Case closed? Claim proven?
 
3. Post #6, left wing organizations responsible for actual violence, not imaginary threats, outside of presidential assassinations, including police and ordinary citizens.
Did I mention left wing?

All that still doesn't count for one fraction of all the violence the country has had, which you continue to claim is responsible from the left.

"tons more violence in our society over the decades than those assassins, where's your proof that the left was responsible for that? Oh wait you didn't bring any." covered

About as much as two drops of paint cover a wall.

"no statistics no numbers of any kind just talking about a handful of assassins over a span of many decades."
So, math isn't your strong suit either? Do you know how many Presidents there have been? Can you count the assassinations?
So, what kind of statistics do you need?

The political leanings of most murderers for starters, you want to pretend violence is only done by people on the left, show me that's so.

"...right-wing violence like say the recent abortion murders?"
I'm a rightwinger, bonehead, if there are such examples of right wing violence, that would be your job....No?

So you wish to ignore those right wing murderers for as long as possible? Figures.

1. "...doesn't count for one fraction of all the violence the country has had,.."
Where are your stats?

2. "...The political leanings of most murderers for starters..."
No wonder you can't produce a coherent post...it's not murderers and their political leanings...its those WITH political leanings, and whether these political assassins are left or right...
Can you see the difference?
I didn't think so.

3. "...So you wish to ignore those right wing murderers ..."
Another lacunae!!! The debate is to enforce one view or another....
Not both at once!

And- you have produced no data to support your side of the argument.,,,
How long have you been here????

Now, I know that this is beyond you, but for actual readers, let me show you the philosophical origins of violence as a political tool...and from whence it stems.

4. Georges Eugène Sorel (2 November 1847 in Cherbourg – 29 August 1922 in Boulogne-sur-Seine) was a French philosopher and theorist of revolutionary syndicalism. His notion of the power of myth in people's lives inspired Marxists and Fascists, it is, together with his defense of violence, the contribution for which he is most often remembered. Georges Sorel - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

5. . In his most famous work (1908), Sorel emphasized the violent and irrational motivations of social and economic conduct (echoing Pareto in many ways). His identification of the need for a deliberately-conceived "myth" to sway crowds into concerted action was put to use by the Fascist and Communist movements of the 1920s and after. Georges Sorel

6. In his best-known work, Reflections on Violence (1908, tr. 1912), which became the basic text of syndicalism, Sorel expounded his theory of "violence" as the creative power of the proletariat that could overcome "force," the coercive economic power of the bourgeoisie. He supported belief in myths about future social developments, arguing that such belief promoted social progress. http://www.encyclopedia.com/topic/Georges_Sorel.aspx

So, you see it is at the very beginnings of leftist ideology that the need to incorporate violence was impressed by Sorel...further Mussolini incorporated the ideas of Sorel’s syndicalism to create his brand of fascism.
Syndicalism is similar to socialism but included violent, direction action.


I accept that you, Slimey, will be unable to see 4-5-and 6 as dispositive of the claim that it is the left that is the home for violence...simply claim that you didn't understand it. Anybody who reads your posts will believe it.
 
if you want to craft an instrumental, i can do rock-rap very nicely.

yes you can ... musically, our worlds are drawing closer and closer, all of the time
your talent lies in your voice and your lyrics
 
you cherry-picked my post, that means you did not like it, hahaha.
why confront you with evidence when you evade deflect or ignore said evidence.
and you still think "your" OP deserves something else but derision.:lol:

Flimsy and diaphanous.

The 'hahaha' was the best part.

ya got nuttin'

air is getting scarce, huh. luckily for you, your head is full of it. if you were interested, you'd not ignore what others posted who decided to help you realize your errors.

skippy, skippy, skip skip.

BWAHAHAHAHA

My what? Errors? I never make mistakes. I thought I did once, but I was mistaken.

"air is getting scarce, huh. luckily for you, your head is full of it."
I get it....it's like a joke, only different.

Is it true that you post to drown out the voices in your head?
Now, isn't that better than that "air" thing?

I suggest you look at post #214...careful, or you might learn something.
 
John Wilkes Booth (May 10, 1838– April 26, 1865) was an American stage actor who assassinated President Abraham Lincoln at Ford's Theatre, in Washington, D.C., on April 14, 1865. Booth was a member of the prominent 19th century Booth theatrical family from Maryland and, by the 1860s, was a well known actor.[1] He was also a Confederate sympathizer vehement in his denunciation of the Lincoln Administration and outraged by the South's defeat in the American Civil War. He strongly opposed the abolition of slavery in the United States and Lincoln's proposal to extend voting rights to recently emancipated slaves.

That just screams liberal, doesn't it? bwahahahaha!

Why is it that "conservatives" need to revise history? THAT would be a good anthropological study.

:eusa_eh:good lord, Ravi. The confederacy was DEMOCRATIC. Booth was as far left as possible in those times.

Please study history before you spout about it. You don't have a clue, dear.
 
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John Wilkes Booth (May 10, 1838– April 26, 1865) was an American stage actor who assassinated President Abraham Lincoln at Ford's Theatre, in Washington, D.C., on April 14, 1865. Booth was a member of the prominent 19th century Booth theatrical family from Maryland and, by the 1860s, was a well known actor.[1] He was also a Confederate sympathizer vehement in his denunciation of the Lincoln Administration and outraged by the South's defeat in the American Civil War. He strongly opposed the abolition of slavery in the United States and Lincoln's proposal to extend voting rights to recently emancipated slaves.

That just screams liberal, doesn't it? bwahahahaha!

Why is it that "conservatives" need to revise history? THAT would be a good anthropological study.

:eusa_eh:good lord, Ravi. The confederacy was DEMOCRATIC. Booth was as far left as possible in those times.

Please study history before you spout about it. You don't have a clue, dear.

You are a fucking moron. The Democrats were the conservative party of the 19th century. The Confederates were the ultimate states rightsers.
 

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