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In mid-1961, President Ngo Dinh Diem of South Vietnam asked the United States to conduct aerial herbicide spraying in his country.
What, by exposing their positions so we could bomb and shoot them before they could kill us in the same ways ??We didn't use it to harm our troops, we used it to harm the enemy.We did.Are you stupid.So when I use a weed wacker at home I am using a weapon sweetie?
Not nearly as stupid as you.
So we used a weapon on our own troops sweetie?
Like DDT, Chlordae, and Mirex the risks were not known?
So DDT, Chlordane, and Mirex were used as chemical weapons?
We wanted to hurt our own troops?
Nope.. It had to be an intentional use as a weapon in order to be determined as such. Defoliating is not a direct use of the defoliant that would determine it to be a chemical weapon.Chemical warfare is only disgusting if Assad or Sadaam are doing it ?Defoliating the jungles in order to expose the enemy was a nessesary evil at that time in history. We had victims on our side as well from that crap, and if anything we ought to be seeking compensation from Vietnam for putting us in that situation to begin with.
Do these countries think that Obama is still in the Whitehouse ?? We don't have an apologist in the white house anymore, so they best just move on with their lives by not creating wars for other people to fight for them. That is the best healing any nation can accomplish in their futures.
Drunk already?
Clearly you went to public schools as you can't distinguish between defoliant and weapon darling.
The indiscriminate use of Agent Orange made it a weapon. Not one that killed right away. But a weapon nonetheless.
Expose the enemy, and then harm them. Get it right now.We didn't use it to harm our troops, we used it to harm the enemy.We did.Are you stupid.So when I use a weed wacker at home I am using a weapon sweetie?
Not nearly as stupid as you.
So we used a weapon on our own troops sweetie?
Like DDT, Chlordae, and Mirex the risks were not known?
So DDT, Chlordane, and Mirex were used as chemical weapons?
We wanted to hurt our own troops?
The extortion and pillaging of our treasury has ended under Trump, so deal with it.Nope.. It had to be an intentional use as a weapon in order to be determined as such. Defoliating is not a direct use of the defoliant that would determine it to be a chemical weapon.Chemical warfare is only disgusting if Assad or Sadaam are doing it ?Defoliating the jungles in order to expose the enemy was a nessesary evil at that time in history. We had victims on our side as well from that crap, and if anything we ought to be seeking compensation from Vietnam for putting us in that situation to begin with.
Do these countries think that Obama is still in the Whitehouse ?? We don't have an apologist in the white house anymore, so they best just move on with their lives by not creating wars for other people to fight for them. That is the best healing any nation can accomplish in their futures.
Drunk already?
Clearly you went to public schools as you can't distinguish between defoliant and weapon darling.
The indiscriminate use of Agent Orange made it a weapon. Not one that killed right away. But a weapon nonetheless.
Semantics. More Vietnam Vets died from exposure to Agent Orange than died from what you consider "weapons". And even though the Vietnam War ended more than 40 years ago, our veterans are still dying from what happened there.
Yes he had to fight for it (not right we all know), yet the fight is a normal process because the government didn't intentionally harm the troops, yet it had exposed itself to millions wanting compensation as if it did intentionally expose them or their family members to a chemical (used as a weapon in their minds), so claims had to be carefully analyzed for proper diagnosis in order to keep fraudulent cases from piggy backing or jumping upon the bandwagon of the (claims robbing of the federal government trend), in order to get money out of our federal government for thousands of possible fraudulent claims being submitted as well.most of the victims of agent orange are dead. are they paying the families.. my father died at 54...from lung cancer...he was a smoker but he was exposed to agent orange more than once in his two tours....
and what of the families of those who died early..what do they get?
Most of them got nothing. The gov't denied their claims for decades. Consequently, many victims died before there was even an admission that Agent Orange was responsible for the myriad of health issues.
My father-in-law died last year. But he suffered numerous ailments that were directly related to his exposure to Agent Orange. He received compensation for his exposure in 2016. He had been fighting for it for almost 40 years. The treatment of veterans has been horrific.
A weapon is anything that can be used to gain an advantage over your adversary. Information can be used as a weapon.Nope.. It had to be an intentional use as a weapon in order to be determined as such. Defoliating is not a direct use of the defoliant that would determine it to be a chemical weapon.Chemical warfare is only disgusting if Assad or Sadaam are doing it ?Defoliating the jungles in order to expose the enemy was a nessesary evil at that time in history. We had victims on our side as well from that crap, and if anything we ought to be seeking compensation from Vietnam for putting us in that situation to begin with.
Do these countries think that Obama is still in the Whitehouse ?? We don't have an apologist in the white house anymore, so they best just move on with their lives by not creating wars for other people to fight for them. That is the best healing any nation can accomplish in their futures.
Drunk already?
Clearly you went to public schools as you can't distinguish between defoliant and weapon darling.
The indiscriminate use of Agent Orange made it a weapon. Not one that killed right away. But a weapon nonetheless.
A chemical used as a defoliant in which exposed the enemy positions in order to save the lives of countless American's upon such a unique battlefield was justified at the time. If faced with such a situation again, we will have hopefully learned the consequences of the fall out, and will issue our troops with proper gear to protect them in such an environment created by use of the defoliant as would be needed.A weapon is anything that can be used to gain an advantage over your adversary. Information can be used as a weapon.Nope.. It had to be an intentional use as a weapon in order to be determined as such. Defoliating is not a direct use of the defoliant that would determine it to be a chemical weapon.Chemical warfare is only disgusting if Assad or Sadaam are doing it ?Defoliating the jungles in order to expose the enemy was a nessesary evil at that time in history. We had victims on our side as well from that crap, and if anything we ought to be seeking compensation from Vietnam for putting us in that situation to begin with.
Do these countries think that Obama is still in the Whitehouse ?? We don't have an apologist in the white house anymore, so they best just move on with their lives by not creating wars for other people to fight for them. That is the best healing any nation can accomplish in their futures.
Drunk already?
Clearly you went to public schools as you can't distinguish between defoliant and weapon darling.
The indiscriminate use of Agent Orange made it a weapon. Not one that killed right away. But a weapon nonetheless.
And in the case of Agent Orange it is indeed a chemical weapon. Your opinion to the contrary means squat.
United States Chemical Weapons Convention - Definitions
In this Act:
(13) Toxic chemical. —
- (1) Chemical weapon. — The term "chemical weapon" means the following, together or separately:
- (A) A toxic chemical and its precursors, except where intended for a purpose not prohibited under this Act as long as the type and quantity is consistent with such a purpose.
- (B) Ammunition or device, specifically designed to cause death or other harm through toxic properties of those toxic chemicals specified in subparagraph (A), which would be released as a result of the employment of such munition or device.
- (C) Any equipment specifically designed for use directly in connection with the employment of munitions or devices specified in subparagraph (B).
- (A) In general. — The term "toxic chemical" means any chemical which through its chemical action on life processes can cause death, temporary incapacitation or permanent harm to humans or animals. The term includes all such chemicals, regardless of their origin or of their method of production, and regardless of whether they are produced in facilities, in munitions or elsewhere.
We didn't use it to harm our troops, we used it to harm the enemy.We did.Are you stupid.So when I use a weed wacker at home I am using a weapon sweetie?
Not nearly as stupid as you.
So we used a weapon on our own troops sweetie?
Like DDT, Chlordae, and Mirex the risks were not known?
So DDT, Chlordane, and Mirex were used as chemical weapons?
We wanted to hurt our own troops?
do you see the post above yours? it was a reply....it was used to clear the path for the ground troops....they called for the drops..it was a deadly chemical...
i am sorry this subject is not one i enjoy discussing and perhaps should not have posted in this thread to begin with
A weapon is anything that can be used to gain an advantage over your adversary. Information can be used as a weapon.Nope.. It had to be an intentional use as a weapon in order to be determined as such. Defoliating is not a direct use of the defoliant that would determine it to be a chemical weapon.Chemical warfare is only disgusting if Assad or Sadaam are doing it ?Defoliating the jungles in order to expose the enemy was a nessesary evil at that time in history. We had victims on our side as well from that crap, and if anything we ought to be seeking compensation from Vietnam for putting us in that situation to begin with.
Do these countries think that Obama is still in the Whitehouse ?? We don't have an apologist in the white house anymore, so they best just move on with their lives by not creating wars for other people to fight for them. That is the best healing any nation can accomplish in their futures.
Drunk already?
Clearly you went to public schools as you can't distinguish between defoliant and weapon darling.
The indiscriminate use of Agent Orange made it a weapon. Not one that killed right away. But a weapon nonetheless.
And in the case of Agent Orange it is indeed a chemical weapon. Your opinion to the contrary means squat.
United States Chemical Weapons Convention - Definitions
In this Act:
(13) Toxic chemical. —
- (1) Chemical weapon. — The term "chemical weapon" means the following, together or separately:
- (A) A toxic chemical and its precursors, except where intended for a purpose not prohibited under this Act as long as the type and quantity is consistent with such a purpose.
- (B) Ammunition or device, specifically designed to cause death or other harm through toxic properties of those toxic chemicals specified in subparagraph (A), which would be released as a result of the employment of such munition or device.
- (C) Any equipment specifically designed for use directly in connection with the employment of munitions or devices specified in subparagraph (B).
- (A) In general. — The term "toxic chemical" means any chemical which through its chemical action on life processes can cause death, temporary incapacitation or permanent harm to humans or animals. The term includes all such chemicals, regardless of their origin or of their method of production, and regardless of whether they are produced in facilities, in munitions or elsewhere.
A weapon is anything that can be used to gain an advantage over your adversary. Information can be used as a weapon.Nope.. It had to be an intentional use as a weapon in order to be determined as such. Defoliating is not a direct use of the defoliant that would determine it to be a chemical weapon.Chemical warfare is only disgusting if Assad or Sadaam are doing it ?Defoliating the jungles in order to expose the enemy was a nessesary evil at that time in history. We had victims on our side as well from that crap, and if anything we ought to be seeking compensation from Vietnam for putting us in that situation to begin with.
Do these countries think that Obama is still in the Whitehouse ?? We don't have an apologist in the white house anymore, so they best just move on with their lives by not creating wars for other people to fight for them. That is the best healing any nation can accomplish in their futures.
Drunk already?
Clearly you went to public schools as you can't distinguish between defoliant and weapon darling.
The indiscriminate use of Agent Orange made it a weapon. Not one that killed right away. But a weapon nonetheless.
And in the case of Agent Orange it is indeed a chemical weapon. Your opinion to the contrary means squat.
United States Chemical Weapons Convention - Definitions
In this Act:
(13) Toxic chemical. —
- (1) Chemical weapon. — The term "chemical weapon" means the following, together or separately:
- (A) A toxic chemical and its precursors, except where intended for a purpose not prohibited under this Act as long as the type and quantity is consistent with such a purpose.
- (B) Ammunition or device, specifically designed to cause death or other harm through toxic properties of those toxic chemicals specified in subparagraph (A), which would be released as a result of the employment of such munition or device.
- (C) Any equipment specifically designed for use directly in connection with the employment of munitions or devices specified in subparagraph (B).
- (A) In general. — The term "toxic chemical" means any chemical which through its chemical action on life processes can cause death, temporary incapacitation or permanent harm to humans or animals. The term includes all such chemicals, regardless of their origin or of their method of production, and regardless of whether they are produced in facilities, in munitions or elsewhere.
Are you stupid?Absolutely. It was used indiscriminately to gain advantage over the enemy.Was it used as a weapon?
So when I use a weed wacker at home I am using a weapon sweetie?
Absolutely. It was used indiscriminately to gain advantage over the enemy.Was it used as a weapon?
What are the: purposes not prohibited under this Act darling?
Purposes not prohibited by this act. — The term "purposes not prohibited by this Act" means the following:A toxic chemical and its precursors, except where intended for a purpose not prohibited under this Act
Thanks for posting the proof that it wasn't a chemical weapon.
What are the: purposes not prohibited under this Act darling?
Purposes not prohibited by this act. — The term "purposes not prohibited by this Act" means the following:A toxic chemical and its precursors, except where intended for a purpose not prohibited under this Act
Thanks for posting the proof that it wasn't a chemical weapon.
- (A) Peaceful purposes. — Any peaceful purpose related to an industrial, agricultural, research, medical, or pharmaceutical activity or other activity.
- (B) Protective purposes. — Any purpose directly related to protection against toxic chemicals and to protection against chemical weapons.
- (C) Unrelated military purposes. — Any military purpose of the United States that is not connected with the use of a chemical weapon and that is not dependent on the use of the toxic or poisonous properties of the chemical weapon to cause death or other harm.
- (D) Law enforcement purposes. — Any law enforcement purpose, including any domestic riot control purpose and including imposition of capital punishment.
Agent Orange was intended to cause harm.
Destruction of the food supply.What are the: purposes not prohibited under this Act darling?
Purposes not prohibited by this act. — The term "purposes not prohibited by this Act" means the following:A toxic chemical and its precursors, except where intended for a purpose not prohibited under this Act
Thanks for posting the proof that it wasn't a chemical weapon.
- (A) Peaceful purposes. — Any peaceful purpose related to an industrial, agricultural, research, medical, or pharmaceutical activity or other activity.
- (B) Protective purposes. — Any purpose directly related to protection against toxic chemicals and to protection against chemical weapons.
- (C) Unrelated military purposes. — Any military purpose of the United States that is not connected with the use of a chemical weapon and that is not dependent on the use of the toxic or poisonous properties of the chemical weapon to cause death or other harm.
- (D) Law enforcement purposes. — Any law enforcement purpose, including any domestic riot control purpose and including imposition of capital punishment.
Agent Orange was intended to cause harm.
On plants sugar.
First we should compensate our own veterans (and their families) for the damages done by Agent Orange.
Destruction of the food supply.What are the: purposes not prohibited under this Act darling?
Purposes not prohibited by this act. — The term "purposes not prohibited by this Act" means the following:A toxic chemical and its precursors, except where intended for a purpose not prohibited under this Act
Thanks for posting the proof that it wasn't a chemical weapon.
- (A) Peaceful purposes. — Any peaceful purpose related to an industrial, agricultural, research, medical, or pharmaceutical activity or other activity.
- (B) Protective purposes. — Any purpose directly related to protection against toxic chemicals and to protection against chemical weapons.
- (C) Unrelated military purposes. — Any military purpose of the United States that is not connected with the use of a chemical weapon and that is not dependent on the use of the toxic or poisonous properties of the chemical weapon to cause death or other harm.
- (D) Law enforcement purposes. — Any law enforcement purpose, including any domestic riot control purpose and including imposition of capital punishment.
Agent Orange was intended to cause harm.
On plants sugar.