Venezuela ; The Socialists nightmare w/ half the population in CRITICAL poverty now

[Penelope]

That response has led to a thriving partnership between Citgo and the South Bronx, as well as a much broader national program. Citizens Energy is currently working with Citgo to provide heating assistance to 200,000 low-income families in 23 states, more than 250 Indian tribes from Alaska to Maine, and to more than 200 homeless shelters.[xi]

Warming Up the Bronx: Citgo Venezuela Heating & Social Development Program

(I imagine in Texas its not a big deal, heat in the winter)

The US subsidizes heating for the poor to the tune of about 3 billion a year.


Low Income Home Energy Assistance Program (LIHEAP) | Office of Community Services | Administration for Children and Families

Yes I am aware and oil is down now but it was going up in 05 ,

The Low-Income Home Energy Assistance Program, which helps people pay their heating bills, would be cut 8.4 percent, to $2 billion.

Senator Charles E. Schumer, Democrat of New York, said this proposal could not have come at a worse time, since the cartel of oil-producing countries "continues to jack up oil prices and tip American consumers upside down."

Senator Olympia J. Snowe, Republican of Maine, rejected the plan, saying she would push legislation to provide $3.4 billion in energy assistance.

Subject to Bush's Knife: Aid for Food and Heating

By ROBERT PEARFEB. 8, 2005

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So why are leftists getting in the way of domestic production? ALSO, we should have MUCH more nuclear power plants on line. AND leftists are killing our coal industry. Get rid of the leftists and we can solve these problems.

And continue to destroy the earth, no such thing as clean coal.

 

[Iceweasel]

************** THIS THREAD IS ABOUT THE PERILS OF SOCIALISM with regard to THE MODERN DAY COLLAPSE OF VENEZUELA..

And the capitalists did not like it and revolted and in turn starved the people. Greed at the top is what happened in Venezuela.

Yep, your socialist trickle up poverty sure did.....

Same reason trickle down does not work, the greedy at the top, are well "greedy".
Reminds one of the Edwardian Era in Britain. Same thing is happening here.

There's no such thing as trickle down, it's a term of derision leftists thought up to kick their capitalist strawman around. Supply side economic works and has been proven. Socialism doesn't, that too has been proven. Over and over but leftists refuse to learn a goddamn thing that stands in the way of their political religion.

 

[Iceweasel]

That response has led to a thriving partnership between Citgo and the South Bronx, as well as a much broader national program. Citizens Energy is currently working with Citgo to provide heating assistance to 200,000 low-income families in 23 states, more than 250 Indian tribes from Alaska to Maine, and to more than 200 homeless shelters.[xi]

Warming Up the Bronx: Citgo Venezuela Heating & Social Development Program

(I imagine in Texas its not a big deal, heat in the winter)

The US subsidizes heating for the poor to the tune of about 3 billion a year.


Low Income Home Energy Assistance Program (LIHEAP) | Office of Community Services | Administration for Children and Families

Yes I am aware and oil is down now but it was going up in 05 ,

The Low-Income Home Energy Assistance Program, which helps people pay their heating bills, would be cut 8.4 percent, to $2 billion.

Senator Charles E. Schumer, Democrat of New York, said this proposal could not have come at a worse time, since the cartel of oil-producing countries "continues to jack up oil prices and tip American consumers upside down."

Senator Olympia J. Snowe, Republican of Maine, rejected the plan, saying she would push legislation to provide $3.4 billion in energy assistance.

Subject to Bush's Knife: Aid for Food and Heating

By ROBERT PEARFEB. 8, 2005

Continue reading the main story Share This Page

So why are leftists getting in the way of domestic production? ALSO, we should have MUCH more nuclear power plants on line. AND leftists are killing our coal industry. Get rid of the leftists and we can solve these problems.

And continue to destroy the earth, no such thing as clean coal.

Liar. We have one here that supplies 10% of the state's electrical power. You only know leftist shit.

 

[Penelope]

************** THIS THREAD IS ABOUT THE PERILS OF SOCIALISM with regard to THE MODERN DAY COLLAPSE OF VENEZUELA..

And the capitalists did not like it and revolted and in turn starved the people. Greed at the top is what happened in Venezuela.

Yep, your socialist trickle up poverty sure did.....

Same reason trickle down does not work, the greedy at the top, are well "greedy".
Reminds one of the Edwardian Era in Britain. Same thing is happening here.

It's funny, when you talk, Lenin's lips move ...

You do know only the elites ruled in Britain right? Only the wealthy land owners, the rest were servants and slave labor , who waited on the elites in Britain.

 

[kaz]

That response has led to a thriving partnership between Citgo and the South Bronx, as well as a much broader national program. Citizens Energy is currently working with Citgo to provide heating assistance to 200,000 low-income families in 23 states, more than 250 Indian tribes from Alaska to Maine, and to more than 200 homeless shelters.[xi]

Warming Up the Bronx: Citgo Venezuela Heating & Social Development Program

(I imagine in Texas its not a big deal, heat in the winter)

The US subsidizes heating for the poor to the tune of about 3 billion a year.


Low Income Home Energy Assistance Program (LIHEAP) | Office of Community Services | Administration for Children and Families

Yes I am aware and oil is down now but it was going up in 05 ,

The Low-Income Home Energy Assistance Program, which helps people pay their heating bills, would be cut 8.4 percent, to $2 billion.

Senator Charles E. Schumer, Democrat of New York, said this proposal could not have come at a worse time, since the cartel of oil-producing countries "continues to jack up oil prices and tip American consumers upside down."

Senator Olympia J. Snowe, Republican of Maine, rejected the plan, saying she would push legislation to provide $3.4 billion in energy assistance.

Subject to Bush's Knife: Aid for Food and Heating

By ROBERT PEARFEB. 8, 2005

Continue reading the main story Share This Page

So why are leftists getting in the way of domestic production? ALSO, we should have MUCH more nuclear power plants on line. AND leftists are killing our coal industry. Get rid of the leftists and we can solve these problems.

And continue to destroy the earth, no such thing as clean coal.

What a load of crap, there definitely is, you're just making your shit up just because ... coal ...

 

[owebo]

That response has led to a thriving partnership between Citgo and the South Bronx, as well as a much broader national program. Citizens Energy is currently working with Citgo to provide heating assistance to 200,000 low-income families in 23 states, more than 250 Indian tribes from Alaska to Maine, and to more than 200 homeless shelters.[xi]

Warming Up the Bronx: Citgo Venezuela Heating & Social Development Program

(I imagine in Texas its not a big deal, heat in the winter)

The US subsidizes heating for the poor to the tune of about 3 billion a year.


Low Income Home Energy Assistance Program (LIHEAP) | Office of Community Services | Administration for Children and Families

Yes I am aware and oil is down now but it was going up in 05 ,

The Low-Income Home Energy Assistance Program, which helps people pay their heating bills, would be cut 8.4 percent, to $2 billion.

Senator Charles E. Schumer, Democrat of New York, said this proposal could not have come at a worse time, since the cartel of oil-producing countries "continues to jack up oil prices and tip American consumers upside down."

Senator Olympia J. Snowe, Republican of Maine, rejected the plan, saying she would push legislation to provide $3.4 billion in energy assistance.

Subject to Bush's Knife: Aid for Food and Heating

By ROBERT PEARFEB. 8, 2005

Continue reading the main story Share This Page

So why are leftists getting in the way of domestic production? ALSO, we should have MUCH more nuclear power plants on line. AND leftists are killing our coal industry. Get rid of the leftists and we can solve these problems.

And continue to destroy the earth, no such thing as clean coal.

Destroying how? Your fucking brilliant ignorance was put here because of coal....

 

[Penelope]

************** THIS THREAD IS ABOUT THE PERILS OF SOCIALISM with regard to THE MODERN DAY COLLAPSE OF VENEZUELA..

And the capitalists did not like it and revolted and in turn starved the people. Greed at the top is what happened in Venezuela.

Yep, your socialist trickle up poverty sure did.....

Same reason trickle down does not work, the greedy at the top, are well "greedy".
Reminds one of the Edwardian Era in Britain. Same thing is happening here.

There's no such thing as trickle down, it's a term of derision leftists thought up to kick their capitalist strawman around. Supply side economic works and has been proven. Socialism doesn't, that too has been proven. Over and over but leftists refuse to learn a goddamn thing that stands in the way of their political religion.

Read Obamas 2016 budget and you will know why the elites are so upset. As you might be aware, many Democrats are part of the elites too.

 

[owebo]

************** THIS THREAD IS ABOUT THE PERILS OF SOCIALISM with regard to THE MODERN DAY COLLAPSE OF VENEZUELA..

And the capitalists did not like it and revolted and in turn starved the people. Greed at the top is what happened in Venezuela.

Yep, your socialist trickle up poverty sure did.....

Same reason trickle down does not work, the greedy at the top, are well "greedy".
Reminds one of the Edwardian Era in Britain. Same thing is happening here.

It's funny, when you talk, Lenin's lips move ...

You do know only the elites ruled in Britain right? Only the wealthy land owners, the rest were servants and slave labor , who waited on the elites in Britain.

No shit....wow, your public education is awesome.....

 

[owebo]

************** THIS THREAD IS ABOUT THE PERILS OF SOCIALISM with regard to THE MODERN DAY COLLAPSE OF VENEZUELA..

And the capitalists did not like it and revolted and in turn starved the people. Greed at the top is what happened in Venezuela.

Yep, your socialist trickle up poverty sure did.....

Same reason trickle down does not work, the greedy at the top, are well "greedy".
Reminds one of the Edwardian Era in Britain. Same thing is happening here.

There's no such thing as trickle down, it's a term of derision leftists thought up to kick their capitalist strawman around. Supply side economic works and has been proven. Socialism doesn't, that too has been proven. Over and over but leftists refuse to learn a goddamn thing that stands in the way of their political religion.

Read Obamas 2016 budget and you will know why the elites are so upset. As you might be aware, many Democrats are part of the elites too.

Obamas had no budget for 8 years....

 

[Penelope]

That response has led to a thriving partnership between Citgo and the South Bronx, as well as a much broader national program. Citizens Energy is currently working with Citgo to provide heating assistance to 200,000 low-income families in 23 states, more than 250 Indian tribes from Alaska to Maine, and to more than 200 homeless shelters.[xi]

Warming Up the Bronx: Citgo Venezuela Heating & Social Development Program

(I imagine in Texas its not a big deal, heat in the winter)

The US subsidizes heating for the poor to the tune of about 3 billion a year.


Low Income Home Energy Assistance Program (LIHEAP) | Office of Community Services | Administration for Children and Families

Yes I am aware and oil is down now but it was going up in 05 ,

The Low-Income Home Energy Assistance Program, which helps people pay their heating bills, would be cut 8.4 percent, to $2 billion.

Senator Charles E. Schumer, Democrat of New York, said this proposal could not have come at a worse time, since the cartel of oil-producing countries "continues to jack up oil prices and tip American consumers upside down."

Senator Olympia J. Snowe, Republican of Maine, rejected the plan, saying she would push legislation to provide $3.4 billion in energy assistance.

Subject to Bush's Knife: Aid for Food and Heating

By ROBERT PEARFEB. 8, 2005

Continue reading the main story Share This Page

So why are leftists getting in the way of domestic production? ALSO, we should have MUCH more nuclear power plants on line. AND leftists are killing our coal industry. Get rid of the leftists and we can solve these problems.

And continue to destroy the earth, no such thing as clean coal.

Destroying how? Your fucking brilliant ignorance was put here because of coal....

And that day has come and gone, over 250 years of the advent of the steam engine. Actually the global movement of people will kill us quicker than anything, pandemics. The spread of deadly viruses. The Spanish Flu killed more than WWI did.

 

[owebo]

The US subsidizes heating for the poor to the tune of about 3 billion a year.


Low Income Home Energy Assistance Program (LIHEAP) | Office of Community Services | Administration for Children and Families

Yes I am aware and oil is down now but it was going up in 05 ,

The Low-Income Home Energy Assistance Program, which helps people pay their heating bills, would be cut 8.4 percent, to $2 billion.

Senator Charles E. Schumer, Democrat of New York, said this proposal could not have come at a worse time, since the cartel of oil-producing countries "continues to jack up oil prices and tip American consumers upside down."

Senator Olympia J. Snowe, Republican of Maine, rejected the plan, saying she would push legislation to provide $3.4 billion in energy assistance.

Subject to Bush's Knife: Aid for Food and Heating

By ROBERT PEARFEB. 8, 2005

Continue reading the main story Share This Page

So why are leftists getting in the way of domestic production? ALSO, we should have MUCH more nuclear power plants on line. AND leftists are killing our coal industry. Get rid of the leftists and we can solve these problems.

And continue to destroy the earth, no such thing as clean coal.

Destroying how? Your fucking brilliant ignorance was put here because of coal....

And that day has come and gone, over 250 years of the advent of the steam engine. Actually the global movement of people will kill us quicker than anything, pandemics. The spread of deadly viruses. The Spanish Flu killed more than WWI did.

If it's gone, then please leave us.....we have coal energy to use, and it's only for smart people....

 

[Penelope]

And the capitalists did not like it and revolted and in turn starved the people. Greed at the top is what happened in Venezuela.

Yep, your socialist trickle up poverty sure did.....

Same reason trickle down does not work, the greedy at the top, are well "greedy".
Reminds one of the Edwardian Era in Britain. Same thing is happening here.

There's no such thing as trickle down, it's a term of derision leftists thought up to kick their capitalist strawman around. Supply side economic works and has been proven. Socialism doesn't, that too has been proven. Over and over but leftists refuse to learn a goddamn thing that stands in the way of their political religion.

Read Obamas 2016 budget and you will know why the elites are so upset. As you might be aware, many Democrats are part of the elites too.

Obamas had no budget for 8 years....

https://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/omb/budget/fy2016/assets/budget.pdf

 

[owebo]

Yep, your socialist trickle up poverty sure did.....

Same reason trickle down does not work, the greedy at the top, are well "greedy".
Reminds one of the Edwardian Era in Britain. Same thing is happening here.

There's no such thing as trickle down, it's a term of derision leftists thought up to kick their capitalist strawman around. Supply side economic works and has been proven. Socialism doesn't, that too has been proven. Over and over but leftists refuse to learn a goddamn thing that stands in the way of their political religion.

Read Obamas 2016 budget and you will know why the elites are so upset. As you might be aware, many Democrats are part of the elites too.

Obamas had no budget for 8 years....

https://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/omb/budget/fy2016/assets/budget.pdf

Here....ill use one of your propaganda site so you fucking understand....

Summary of FY2016 Continuing Resolution

 

[Penelope]

Yes I am aware and oil is down now but it was going up in 05 ,

The Low-Income Home Energy Assistance Program, which helps people pay their heating bills, would be cut 8.4 percent, to $2 billion.

Senator Charles E. Schumer, Democrat of New York, said this proposal could not have come at a worse time, since the cartel of oil-producing countries "continues to jack up oil prices and tip American consumers upside down."

Senator Olympia J. Snowe, Republican of Maine, rejected the plan, saying she would push legislation to provide $3.4 billion in energy assistance.

Subject to Bush's Knife: Aid for Food and Heating

By ROBERT PEARFEB. 8, 2005

Continue reading the main story Share This Page

So why are leftists getting in the way of domestic production? ALSO, we should have MUCH more nuclear power plants on line. AND leftists are killing our coal industry. Get rid of the leftists and we can solve these problems.

And continue to destroy the earth, no such thing as clean coal.

Destroying how? Your fucking brilliant ignorance was put here because of coal....

And that day has come and gone, over 250 years of the advent of the steam engine. Actually the global movement of people will kill us quicker than anything, pandemics. The spread of deadly viruses. The Spanish Flu killed more than WWI did.

If it's gone, then please leave us.....we have coal energy to use, and it's only for smart people....

Besides do you think coal is infinite.

 

[owebo]

So why are leftists getting in the way of domestic production? ALSO, we should have MUCH more nuclear power plants on line. AND leftists are killing our coal industry. Get rid of the leftists and we can solve these problems.

And continue to destroy the earth, no such thing as clean coal.

Destroying how? Your fucking brilliant ignorance was put here because of coal....

And that day has come and gone, over 250 years of the advent of the steam engine. Actually the global movement of people will kill us quicker than anything, pandemics. The spread of deadly viruses. The Spanish Flu killed more than WWI did.

If it's gone, then please leave us.....we have coal energy to use, and it's only for smart people....

Besides do you think coal is infinite.

There is only about a 1000 years of easy coal.....

 

[kaz]

************** THIS THREAD IS ABOUT THE PERILS OF SOCIALISM with regard to THE MODERN DAY COLLAPSE OF VENEZUELA..

And the capitalists did not like it and revolted and in turn starved the people. Greed at the top is what happened in Venezuela.

Yep, your socialist trickle up poverty sure did.....

Same reason trickle down does not work, the greedy at the top, are well "greedy".
Reminds one of the Edwardian Era in Britain. Same thing is happening here.

It's funny, when you talk, Lenin's lips move ...

You do know only the elites ruled in Britain right? Only the wealthy land owners, the rest were servants and slave labor , who waited on the elites in Britain.

"You do know only the elites ruled in Britain right? Only the wealthy land owners, the rest were servants and slave labor , who waited on the elites in Britain"

Exactly, government controlled industry, not free markets. So you're conceding now?

 

[kaz]

So why are leftists getting in the way of domestic production? ALSO, we should have MUCH more nuclear power plants on line. AND leftists are killing our coal industry. Get rid of the leftists and we can solve these problems.

And continue to destroy the earth, no such thing as clean coal.

Destroying how? Your fucking brilliant ignorance was put here because of coal....

And that day has come and gone, over 250 years of the advent of the steam engine. Actually the global movement of people will kill us quicker than anything, pandemics. The spread of deadly viruses. The Spanish Flu killed more than WWI did.

If it's gone, then please leave us.....we have coal energy to use, and it's only for smart people....

Besides do you think coal is infinite.

How is that a lucid reply to the point?

 

[francoHFW]

OP- The same thing would have happened under the oligarchy there when the economy is based on oil prices zzzzzzzzzzzz. The socialists DID eradicate illiteracy in a decade, cut extreme poverty by 80% etc etc. But their difficulties have nothing to do with the modern world ,where all the successful countries are socialist (well regulated capitalism with a good safety net- ALWAYS democratic). Including us, but we're skewered to the rich under Reaganism, and going downhill. See sig.
The Achievements of Hugo Chavez - Counterpunch
www.counterpunch.org/2012/12/14/the-achievements-of-hugo-chavez/
CounterPunch
Dec 14, 2012 - While Venezuela's president Hugo Chávez is fighting for his life in Cuba, the ... And extreme poverty reduced from 40% (1996) to a very low level of 7.3% (2010). ... UNESCO has recognized that illiteracy been eliminated furthermore, Venezuela is .... Under President Trump, Will I Be Forced Into Slavery?

 

[Iceweasel]

CounterPunch
Dec 14, 2012 - While Venezuela's president Hugo Chávez is fighting for his life in Cuba, the ... And extreme poverty reduced from 40% (1996) to a very low level of 7.3% (2010). ... UNESCO has recognized that illiteracy been eliminated furthermore, Venezuela is .... Under President Trump, Will I Be Forced Into Slavery?

WTF? So they can now read about how poor they are and evil Trump will be?

 

[owebo]

OP- The same thing would have happened under the oligarchy there when the economy is based on oil prices zzzzzzzzzzzz. The socialists DID eradicate illiteracy in a decade, cut extreme poverty by 80% etc etc. But their difficulties have nothing to do with the modern world ,where all the successful countries are socialist (well regulated capitalism with a good safety net- ALWAYS democratic). Including us, but we're skewered to the rich under Reaganism, and going downhill. See sig.
The Achievements of Hugo Chavez - Counterpunch
www.counterpunch.org/2012/12/14/the-achievements-of-hugo-chavez/
CounterPunch
Dec 14, 2012 - While Venezuela's president Hugo Chávez is fighting for his life in Cuba, the ... And extreme poverty reduced from 40% (1996) to a very low level of 7.3% (2010). ... UNESCO has recognized that illiteracy been eliminated furthermore, Venezuela is .... Under President Trump, Will I Be Forced Into Slavery?

Strange....other oil rich countries, like Venezuela, have these for their people...

It's a gold bar vending machine....