Value of Obama Promises...

Your dilemma is understandable. Conservatives are low-effort thinkers by definition. "Bold new approaches" and statesman like qualities are far beyond their capabilities.

I do; at least for doing what had to be done to respond the Republican deceit and distortion about ACA.

So by your own inflated self awareness standards you think the Conservatives are low effort thinkers but then qualify your mental superiority with saying everything the conservatives told you was going to happen is or has already happened under the ACA were wrong. I think you need to look up a few words. Start with Success, truth, functionality and as a final note you may want to peruse the word affordable because it sure doesn't seem that one is ringing true either.

So bold new approaches to you don't necessarily mean productive or even functional. Your bold new approach is sticking with failure...in the hopes of the bold new approach that is somehow going to begin not failing because it's new...and bold.

Just how much effort do you actually put into these thoughts?
 
Well, not in 2008, he said a lot of the right things, since then, it's been putting a fresh diaper on a shitty baby for Democrats... and all too frequently as it turns out.

That just goes to show you how extremely terrible of a bullshitter Romney was in 2012. Not to mention the primaries seemed to be a game of "anybody but Romney". His own base had already hammered him more by the end of the primaries than the Democrats ever could.

I think from now on Democrat lite candidates will barely win or generally lose.

A Conservative that offers a bold new approach and has abilities as a true statesmen is the only possibility for a re-emergence of American pride and hope for a promising future, especially after this Obama fiasco.

Who that is, I wish I knew.

If by fiscally conservative, I agree. There is a reason all of the socially conservative candidates were primaried. I can't think of a single truly fiscally conservative member of the establishment GOP at this time, save maybe the Pauls.
 
Your dilemma is understandable. Conservatives are low-effort thinkers by definition. "Bold new approaches" and statesman like qualities are far beyond their capabilities.

Bold new approach.....

"Hey, let us give the people what they think is "free shit" but make everybody else pay for it......"

Dumbass.

Well, Dumbass, I don't think a significant portion of Americans thought the insurance coverage they received through ACA was free. However, some did. You can excuse them, though, because the insurance was almost free for them.
 
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Your dilemma is understandable. Conservatives are low-effort thinkers by definition. "Bold new approaches" and statesman like qualities are far beyond their capabilities.

No dilemma, you missed the point, sound uneducated and display a typical expectation for the liberal mindset.

Not surprisingly and by obvious appraisal the liberal Democrat leaders have fallen far far short of the mark. Their idea's have brought America to a consistency of failure, embarrassment and on the verge of economic collapse.

Even if that were true, which it isn't, it wouldn't change the essential nature of conservative policy makers. Conservatism can be apprehended as low-effort thinking oriented toward what is easy to believe even when the issue at hand is hard to understand. That never produces "bold new approaches" and statesman like qualities.
 
Your dilemma is understandable. Conservatives are low-effort thinkers by definition. "Bold new approaches" and statesman like qualities are far beyond their capabilities.

Bold new approach.....

"Hey, let us give the people what they think is "free shit" but make everybody else pay for it......"

Dumbass.

Well, Dumbass, I don't think a significant portion of Americans thought the insurance coverage they received through was free. However, some did. You can excuse them, though, because the insurance was almost free for them.

LOL, your side has ONE answer for everything, take something from person A and give it to person B.

Highly intellectual dumbass.
 
Well, Dumbass, I don't think a significant portion of Americans thought the insurance coverage they received through was free. However, some did. You can excuse them, though, because the insurance was almost free for them.

No you ignorant non-thinker. A significant portion actually believed the lie obie told them that they could keep their insurance if they liked it. Period. A good number of others that voted for this asshole thought they were going to get subsidies, or rather OTHER people to pay for their healthcare. Take a couple days off and actually think this situation through.
 
To the far left Obama drone the Obama promises are good as gold.

Democrats expect to be lied to by their political representatives but expect all others to be completely honest.. This is usually referred to as blind hypocrisy..
 
Your dilemma is understandable. Conservatives are low-effort thinkers by definition. "Bold new approaches" and statesman like qualities are far beyond their capabilities.

I do; at least for doing what had to be done to respond the Republican deceit and distortion about ACA.

So by your own inflated self awareness standards you think the Conservatives are low effort thinkers but then qualify your mental superiority with saying everything the conservatives told you was going to happen is or has already happened under the ACA were wrong. I think you need to look up a few words. Start with Success, truth, functionality and as a final note you may want to peruse the word affordable because it sure doesn't seem that one is ringing true either.

So bold new approaches to you don't necessarily mean productive or even functional. Your bold new approach is sticking with failure...in the hopes of the bold new approach that is somehow going to begin not failing because it's new...and bold.

Just how much effort do you actually put into these thoughts?

Enough to know the conservative approach to fixing our failed health care system is pushing the same old ideas which they've been pushing for years: tort reform, interstate sales and health savings accounts. That's not bold.
 
Well, Dumbass, I don't think a significant portion of Americans thought the insurance coverage they received through was free. However, some did. You can excuse them, though, because the insurance was almost free for them.

LOL, your side has ONE answer for everything, take something from person A and give it to person B.

Highly intellectual dumbass.

Dumbass, I never said redistribution was the solution to every problem and I don't know why making that error makes you think you're highly intellectual.
 
Well, Dumbass, I don't think a significant portion of Americans thought the insurance coverage they received through was free. However, some did. You can excuse them, though, because the insurance was almost free for them.

No you ignorant non-thinker. A significant portion actually believed the lie obie told them that they could keep their insurance if they liked it. Period. A good number of others that voted for this asshole thought they were going to get subsidies, or rather OTHER people to pay for their healthcare. Take a couple days off and actually think this situation through.

That would make the insurance nearly free to them, wouldn't it.
 
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Your dilemma is understandable. Conservatives are low-effort thinkers by definition. "Bold new approaches" and statesman like qualities are far beyond their capabilities.

No dilemma, you missed the point, sound uneducated and display a typical expectation for the liberal mindset.

Not surprisingly and by obvious appraisal the liberal Democrat leaders have fallen far far short of the mark. Their idea's have brought America to a consistency of failure, embarrassment and on the verge of economic collapse.

Even if that were true, which it isn't, it wouldn't change the essential nature of conservative policy makers. Conservatism can be apprehended as low-effort thinking oriented toward what is easy to believe even when the issue at hand is hard to understand. That never produces "bold new approaches" and statesman like qualities.

Name a truly successful liberal President..btw. forget Clinton he's a sexual deviant and only had 33.3 % of the federally elected power. His success is a myth, he's more of a blathering bobble-headed President.
 
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Even if that were true, which it isn't, it wouldn't change the essential nature of conservative policy makers. Conservatism can be apprehended as low-effort thinking oriented toward what is easy to believe even when the issue at hand is hard to understand. That never produces "bold new approaches" and statesman like qualities.

Name a truly successful liberal President..btw. forget Clinton he's a sexual deviant and only had 33.3 % of the federally elected power. His success is a myth, he's more of a bobble-headed President.

That would depend on your definition of "liberal" Assuming all Democrats to be liberal, FDR and LBJ were very successful. FDR changed the nature of American government by making it a resource for individual Americans with Social Security and collective bargaining legislation. LBJ furthered that wih Medicare and civil rights.
 
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Your dilemma is understandable. Conservatives are low-effort thinkers by definition. "Bold new approaches" and statesman like qualities are far beyond their capabilities.

I do; at least for doing what had to be done to respond the Republican deceit and distortion about ACA.

So by your own inflated self awareness standards you think the Conservatives are low effort thinkers but then qualify your mental superiority with saying everything the conservatives told you was going to happen is or has already happened under the ACA were wrong. I think you need to look up a few words. Start with Success, truth, functionality and as a final note you may want to peruse the word affordable because it sure doesn't seem that one is ringing true either.

So bold new approaches to you don't necessarily mean productive or even functional. Your bold new approach is sticking with failure...in the hopes of the bold new approach that is somehow going to begin not failing because it's new...and bold.

Just how much effort do you actually put into these thoughts?

Enough to know the conservative approach to fixing our failed health care system is pushing the same old ideas which they've been pushing for years: tort reform, interstate sales and health savings accounts. That's not bold.

So in other words you only consider socialist options going forward as new and bold. You haven't expended the required energy of thought into the actual solution because it's an old idea that was never put in place to begin with.

Did you even put any thought into the fact that our healthcare system isn't a failure to 99.9% of the people in it? Did you even consider the benefits of tort reform, interstate health plans or health savings accounts? Do you even know what any of those things mean?

You don't seem to be such a big thinker here Joe.
 
Name a truly successful liberal President..btw. forget Clinton he's a sexual deviant and only had 33.3 % of the federally elected power. His success is a myth, he's more of a bobble-headed President.

Clinton knew how to compromise. I believe every president's success depends greatly upon compromise. Both sides need to learn that not everybody holds the same opinion as them, and that they aren't going to get their way 100% of the time. Instead they act like children, and it's counterproductive to governing a nation.
 
Well, Dumbass, I don't think a significant portion of Americans thought the insurance coverage they received through was free. However, some did. You can excuse them, though, because the insurance was almost free for them.

No you ignorant non-thinker. A significant portion actually believed the lie obie told them that they could keep their insurance if they liked it. Period. A good number of others that voted for this asshole thought they were going to get subsidies, or rather OTHER people to pay for their healthcare. Take a couple days off and actually think this situation through.

That would make the insurance nearly free to them, wouldn't it.

You throw the word free about as if there is NOBODY paying for it. obiecare has caused 6 million people that were paying for their own healthcare and made them a ward of the state. Only they don't get "free" healthcare their costs are doubling and they aren't getting any of the "free". You know why they aren't? Because nothing is free you simpleton.

obiecare is a disaster, the only people gaining from this are the ones that weren't going to pay their own way to begin with. The losers are the other 290 million that will pay for it once they are fucked out of the insurance they were paying for.
 
Name a truly successful liberal President..btw. forget Clinton he's a sexual deviant and only had 33.3 % of the federally elected power. His success is a myth, he's more of a bobble-headed President.

Clinton knew how to compromise. I believe every president's success depends greatly upon compromise. Both sides need to learn that not everybody holds the same opinion as them, and that they aren't going to get their way 100% of the time. Instead they act like children, and it's counterproductive to governing a nation.

Yeah...that Obama....he has never compromised. Just never.
 
Name a truly successful liberal President..btw. forget Clinton he's a sexual deviant and only had 33.3 % of the federally elected power. His success is a myth, he's more of a bobble-headed President.

Clinton knew how to compromise. I believe every president's success depends greatly upon compromise. Both sides need to learn that not everybody holds the same opinion as them, and that they aren't going to get their way 100% of the time. Instead they act like children, and it's counterproductive to governing a nation.

Yeah...that Obama....he has never compromised. Just never.

Yep most of it within his own party as the far left continues it's quest to silence and rid themselves of any true moderates in the party.
 
ACA is the Pub style plan...That's when we should have known Pubs/dupes would never work with a black Dem president...they've blocked his promises and call him a liar- what total a-holes.
 

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