USMB: Where did the Conservative Republicans who freed the slaves come from?

Let's look at the Democrats responsible for resisting Civil Rights legislation during the 1950s and 60s. Democrats like George Wallace, James Stennis, Strom Thurmond, Lester Maddox. Sure, these men were big D Democrats.

Were they Liberals? Were they pushing for an expansion of the federal government vis social programs and benefit packages? Were they the tree hugging, Birkenstock wearing, hippy dippy Liberals today's Conservatives love to hate?

Or were they advocating state's rights? Were they the champions of smaller government? Did they favor laws that made discrimination illegal? Did they advocate equal pay for equal work? Were Labor Unions big contributors to their campaigns?


In fact, ideologically, philosophically, these men were in line with the tenets of modern Conservative ideology. They were Conservatives. They would have agreed with the restrictive laws that clamp down on immigrants that Arizona has passed. They would have been endorsing laws that ban same sex marriages. They would have been championing any effort to eradicate the USEPA. In short, those bigots are your people.

"your people"


racist much?

ASSume much?

Refute it or accept it. That's what we grownups do with facts.


already did refute it

record welfare and food stamps on the "black" guys' watch. failure is failure; his color only matters to you guys

Black Americans had it MUCH BETTER WHEN REPUBLICANS RAN THINGS

refut it or accept it; that's what adults do
 
the Black guy has failed us. if you idiots werent so busy trying to defend your failed Progressive agenda you might stop using your race card long enough to see how you're actually being condescending to the man.

let him stand or fall on his own.

at the end of the day yo udont give a crap about obama; because the left-wing agenda is bigger than he is; and race-card politics us just a tool the Left uses to that end

idiots and hypocrites
 
there you go chasing your tail in contradictions of left-wing failure.

you think it's good; or even "liberal" to advocate amnesty for illegals? (why kid yourself it will be anything but amnesty?)

Black American citizens; not White people; will be hurt the most if dems get their way on immigration.
Black people are the largest church-going demographic in this country; and i can tell you millions are not happy with the notion of same-sex marriages

you're an idiot; a bigot and a hypocrite who thinks he speaks for people. you may even be black; doesnt mean you arent blinded by your poolitics to the point you need to get outside more; and see how it is going to hurt the verty people you claim to be in the corner of
Gee. I wonder why Black Americans don't vote for Republicans? And they sure don't vote for Conservatives. Ever wonder why? Could it be the policies of Conservative candidates that turns them off so much?

Gee i wonder what decades of pandering and patronizing by Dems have done for Black people besides produce loyal voters dems take for granted?

what conservative policies (that havent been distorted by libs) are Black Americans so against?
lets go over them and see whose policies will really hurt Black Americans? i've already mentioned Dems plans for amnesty will hurt Black Americans the most
Conservative want to kill Affirmative Action. After a couple of centuries worth of Conservative supported state sanctioned discrimination, Conservatives want to take away the policy that makes higher education a reality for millions. Conservatives want to erase all social and financial support for the poor. In a rapidly changing economy, Conservatives would gleefully pull the rug out from under those who need that rug the most. Conservatives rail against raising the minimum wage, thus keeping millions of working Americans in poverty. At the same time, Conservatives promote tax policies that assure the rich can stay rich and pay a lower tax rate than the garbage man servicing their gated communities.

Gee! Why aren't more Black Americans rallying around Conservative policies? Because they know, along with millions of poor White Americans that Conservatism will not provide a government for the people.
 
Gee. I wonder why Black Americans don't vote for Republicans? And they sure don't vote for Conservatives. Ever wonder why? Could it be the policies of Conservative candidates that turns them off so much?

Gee i wonder what decades of pandering and patronizing by Dems have done for Black people besides produce loyal voters dems take for granted?

what conservative policies (that havent been distorted by libs) are Black Americans so against?
lets go over them and see whose policies will really hurt Black Americans? i've already mentioned Dems plans for amnesty will hurt Black Americans the most
Conservative want to kill Affirmative Action. After a couple of centuries worth of Conservative supported state sanctioned discrimination, Conservatives want to take away the policy that makes higher education a reality for millions. Conservatives want to erase all social and financial support for the poor. In a rapidly changing economy, Conservatives would gleefully pull the rug out from under those who need that rug the most. Conservatives rail against raising the minimum wage, thus keeping millions of working Americans in poverty. At the same time, Conservatives promote tax policies that assure the rich can stay rich and pay a lower tax rate than the garbage man servicing their gated communities.

Gee! Why aren't more Black Americans rallying around Conservative policies? Because they know, along with millions of poor White Americans that Conservatism will not provide a government for the people.

lol1
according to the left-wing there is no longer a such thing as Afirmative Action and hasnt been for some time now. what are you saying genius?

you're a classical self-deceiver; lying to yourself with impunity. you have replaced Democrat with conservative to hide the inconveniant truth of your Party's role in Jim Crow and racist oppression.

but hey thanks for saying several decades of liberal efforts to end discrimination have been a massive failure; which is what you're saying when you decry the end of set-asides.


"conservatives want to end all social and financial support for the poor.."

massive stupidity you cant begin to back up with facts and logic

"pull the rug out...."

there are MORE poor people in this the 8th straigh y ear of Progressive majority rule then there were at ANY point WHEN REPUBLICANS RAN THINGS

lmao; seriously all you're managing to do is a confession of PROGRESSIVE FAILURE on all accounts


under Progressives ONLY THE TOP 7% OF INCOME EARNERS HAS GAINED GROUND
THE OTHER 93% OF US have lost household income

under Progressives the rich are getting RICHER FASTER; and the Middle Class and poor are getting POORER FASTER

TRY AGAIN
 
Gee. I wonder why Black Americans don't vote for Republicans? And they sure don't vote for Conservatives. Ever wonder why? Could it be the policies of Conservative candidates that turns them off so much?

Gee i wonder what decades of pandering and patronizing by Dems have done for Black people besides produce loyal voters dems take for granted?

what conservative policies (that havent been distorted by libs) are Black Americans so against?
lets go over them and see whose policies will really hurt Black Americans? i've already mentioned Dems plans for amnesty will hurt Black Americans the most
Conservative want to kill Affirmative Action. After a couple of centuries worth of Conservative supported state sanctioned discrimination, Conservatives want to take away the policy that makes higher education a reality for millions. Conservatives want to erase all social and financial support for the poor. In a rapidly changing economy, Conservatives would gleefully pull the rug out from under those who need that rug the most. Conservatives rail against raising the minimum wage, thus keeping millions of working Americans in poverty. At the same time, Conservatives promote tax policies that assure the rich can stay rich and pay a lower tax rate than the garbage man servicing their gated communities.

Gee! Why aren't more Black Americans rallying around Conservative policies? Because they know, along with millions of poor White Americans that Conservatism will not provide a government for the people.

RAISING THE minimum wage WILL KILL JOBS; it's that simple. what have you got besiedes escuse after excuse for Progressive failure and lame talking points?

the rich limosine liberals that live in gated communities next to the conservatives are happy to know their spoon-feeding your talking points has turned you into the conditioned idiot they want you to be
 
Gee i wonder what decades of pandering and patronizing by Dems have done for Black people besides produce loyal voters dems take for granted?

what conservative policies (that havent been distorted by libs) are Black Americans so against?
lets go over them and see whose policies will really hurt Black Americans? i've already mentioned Dems plans for amnesty will hurt Black Americans the most
Conservative want to kill Affirmative Action. After a couple of centuries worth of Conservative supported state sanctioned discrimination, Conservatives want to take away the policy that makes higher education a reality for millions. Conservatives want to erase all social and financial support for the poor. In a rapidly changing economy, Conservatives would gleefully pull the rug out from under those who need that rug the most. Conservatives rail against raising the minimum wage, thus keeping millions of working Americans in poverty. At the same time, Conservatives promote tax policies that assure the rich can stay rich and pay a lower tax rate than the garbage man servicing their gated communities.

Gee! Why aren't more Black Americans rallying around Conservative policies? Because they know, along with millions of poor White Americans that Conservatism will not provide a government for the people.

RAISING THE minimum wage WILL KILL JOBS; it's that simple. what have you got besiedes escuse after excuse for Progressive failure and lame talking points?

the rich limosine liberals that live in gated communities next to the conservatives are happy to know their spoon-feeding your talking points has turned you into the conditioned idiot they want you to be
Please cite the economic research that supports your claim. Most economists agree that raising the minimum wage grows the economy. Economic growth is defined by the exchange of capital throughout the economy. More money in consumer's hands means more growth.

Sequestering capital among the very few is what kills the economy. The money socked away in off shore accounts does not flow through the American economy nor the American tax base.
 
Gee. I wonder why Black Americans don't vote for Republicans? And they sure don't vote for Conservatives. Ever wonder why? Could it be the policies of Conservative candidates that turns them off so much?

Gee i wonder what decades of pandering and patronizing by Dems have done for Black people besides produce loyal voters dems take for granted?

what conservative policies (that havent been distorted by libs) are Black Americans so against?
lets go over them and see whose policies will really hurt Black Americans? i've already mentioned Dems plans for amnesty will hurt Black Americans the most
Conservative want to kill Affirmative Action. After a couple of centuries worth of Conservative supported state sanctioned discrimination, Conservatives want to take away the policy that makes higher education a reality for millions. Conservatives want to erase all social and financial support for the poor. In a rapidly changing economy, Conservatives would gleefully pull the rug out from under those who need that rug the most. Conservatives rail against raising the minimum wage, thus keeping millions of working Americans in poverty. At the same time, Conservatives promote tax policies that assure the rich can stay rich and pay a lower tax rate than the garbage man servicing their gated communities.

Gee! Why aren't more Black Americans rallying around Conservative policies? Because they know, along with millions of poor White Americans that Conservatism will not provide a government for the people.

Conservative want to kill Affirmative Action. After a couple of centuries worth of Conservative supported state sanctioned discrimination...Conservatives want to erase all social and financial support for the poor....Conservatives would gleefully pull the rug out from under those who need that rug the most

Conservatives want to teach people to be equals and do for themselves .

"Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. Teach him how to fish and you feed him for a lifetime."

Gee! Why aren't more Black Americans rallying around Conservative policies? Because they know, along with millions of poor White Americans that Conservatism will not provide a government for the people

No, it will provide a Government OF the people - unlike the ruling class Liberal Elitists. Why is it that every major city that is run by Democrats and Libs is a shambles, every educational system with entrenched Liberal bureaucrats is a disgrace, and has some the worlds worst results Meanwhile in NY City you have a Leftist Mayor who is trying to shut down charter schools that have ridiculously out shown and outperformed all liberal educational systems.
 
Conservative want to kill Affirmative Action. After a couple of centuries worth of Conservative supported state sanctioned discrimination, Conservatives want to take away the policy that makes higher education a reality for millions. Conservatives want to erase all social and financial support for the poor. In a rapidly changing economy, Conservatives would gleefully pull the rug out from under those who need that rug the most. Conservatives rail against raising the minimum wage, thus keeping millions of working Americans in poverty. At the same time, Conservatives promote tax policies that assure the rich can stay rich and pay a lower tax rate than the garbage man servicing their gated communities.

Gee! Why aren't more Black Americans rallying around Conservative policies? Because they know, along with millions of poor White Americans that Conservatism will not provide a government for the people.

RAISING THE minimum wage WILL KILL JOBS; it's that simple. what have you got besiedes escuse after excuse for Progressive failure and lame talking points?

the rich limosine liberals that live in gated communities next to the conservatives are happy to know their spoon-feeding your talking points has turned you into the conditioned idiot they want you to be
Please cite the economic research that supports your claim. Most economists agree that raising the minimum wage grows the economy. Economic growth is defined by the exchange of capital throughout the economy. More money in consumer's hands means more growth.

Sequestering capital among the very few is what kills the economy. The money socked away in off shore accounts does not flow through the American economy nor the American tax base.

Raising the minimum wage is like killing fleas on your dog with a shotgun, something I would expect of most dim-witted Liberals.

Workers must produce at least as much value to the employer as they are paid or the employers business fails and jobs are lost . Raising the minimum wage increases the amount an employee must produce to justify being paid. Raising the wage across the board reduces competitiveness as well, both domestically and internationally.
 
Conservative want to kill Affirmative Action. After a couple of centuries worth of Conservative supported state sanctioned discrimination, Conservatives want to take away the policy that makes higher education a reality for millions. Conservatives want to erase all social and financial support for the poor. In a rapidly changing economy, Conservatives would gleefully pull the rug out from under those who need that rug the most. Conservatives rail against raising the minimum wage, thus keeping millions of working Americans in poverty. At the same time, Conservatives promote tax policies that assure the rich can stay rich and pay a lower tax rate than the garbage man servicing their gated communities.

Gee! Why aren't more Black Americans rallying around Conservative policies? Because they know, along with millions of poor White Americans that Conservatism will not provide a government for the people.

RAISING THE minimum wage WILL KILL JOBS; it's that simple. what have you got besiedes escuse after excuse for Progressive failure and lame talking points?

the rich limosine liberals that live in gated communities next to the conservatives are happy to know their spoon-feeding your talking points has turned you into the conditioned idiot they want you to be
Please cite the economic research that supports your claim. Most economists agree that raising the minimum wage grows the economy. Economic growth is defined by the exchange of capital throughout the economy. More money in consumer's hands means more growth.

Sequestering capital among the very few is what kills the economy. The money socked away in off shore accounts does not flow through the American economy nor the American tax base.

more money won be in consumer's hands if they lose their job. what an idiot.
oh and the government's own CBO says hikig the minimum wage will cost over 500,000 jobs

how can you hope to debate when all you have are talkingpoints and stupidity/
and how is it that you dont follow your own logic of more money being in people's hands means more in the economy when it comes to the rich?
how is it then left-wing nutjobs say the rich dont spent the extra money on the economy/

they dont build mansions? buy nice things?


left-wing idiots are losers who lie to themselves
 
RAISING THE minimum wage WILL KILL JOBS; it's that simple. what have you got besiedes escuse after excuse for Progressive failure and lame talking points?

the rich limosine liberals that live in gated communities next to the conservatives are happy to know their spoon-feeding your talking points has turned you into the conditioned idiot they want you to be
Please cite the economic research that supports your claim. Most economists agree that raising the minimum wage grows the economy. Economic growth is defined by the exchange of capital throughout the economy. More money in consumer's hands means more growth.

Sequestering capital among the very few is what kills the economy. The money socked away in off shore accounts does not flow through the American economy nor the American tax base.

Raising the minimum wage is like killing fleas on your dog with a shotgun, something I would expect of most dim-witted Liberals.

Workers must produce at least as much value to the employer as they are paid or the employers business fails and jobs are lost . Raising the minimum wage increases the amount an employee must produce to justify being paid. Raising the wage across the board reduces competitiveness as well, both domestically and internationally.
So, in your opinion, are the largest companies that pay minimum wage e.g. McDonald's, Wal*Mart and Home Depot just cannot afford to pay a higher pay scale? Aren't these among the most profitable companies in the country?

And wouldn't stimulating consumer buying power result in more economic activity?

Should an American work a 40 hour week and yet live in poverty?

It seems to me that Conservatives are more interested in keeping the majority of wealth out of consumer's hands and firmly in the pockets of the very few.
 
RAISING THE minimum wage WILL KILL JOBS; it's that simple. what have you got besiedes escuse after excuse for Progressive failure and lame talking points?

the rich limosine liberals that live in gated communities next to the conservatives are happy to know their spoon-feeding your talking points has turned you into the conditioned idiot they want you to be
Please cite the economic research that supports your claim. Most economists agree that raising the minimum wage grows the economy. Economic growth is defined by the exchange of capital throughout the economy. More money in consumer's hands means more growth.

Sequestering capital among the very few is what kills the economy. The money socked away in off shore accounts does not flow through the American economy nor the American tax base.

more money won be in consumer's hands if they lose their job. what an idiot.
oh and the government's own CBO says hikig the minimum wage will cost over 500,000 jobs

how can you hope to debate when all you have are talkingpoints and stupidity/
and how is it that you dont follow your own logic of more money being in people's hands means more in the economy when it comes to the rich?
how is it then left-wing nutjobs say the rich dont spent the extra money on the economy/

they dont build mansions? buy nice things?


left-wing idiots are losers who lie to themselves
10,000 families would spend more on consumer goods than 1,000 wealthy families because the wealthy don't spend their money, they save it.
 
Please cite the economic research that supports your claim. Most economists agree that raising the minimum wage grows the economy. Economic growth is defined by the exchange of capital throughout the economy. More money in consumer's hands means more growth.

Sequestering capital among the very few is what kills the economy. The money socked away in off shore accounts does not flow through the American economy nor the American tax base.

Raising the minimum wage is like killing fleas on your dog with a shotgun, something I would expect of most dim-witted Liberals.

Workers must produce at least as much value to the employer as they are paid or the employers business fails and jobs are lost . Raising the minimum wage increases the amount an employee must produce to justify being paid. Raising the wage across the board reduces competitiveness as well, both domestically and internationally.
So, in your opinion, are the largest companies that pay minimum wage e.g. McDonald's, Wal*Mart and Home Depot just cannot afford to pay a higher pay scale? Aren't these among the most profitable companies in the country?

And wouldn't stimulating consumer buying power result in more economic activity?

Should an American work a 40 hour week and yet live in poverty?

It seems to me that Conservatives are more interested in keeping the majority of wealth out of consumer's hands and firmly in the pockets of the very few.



YAWN
so there are people who work 40 hours and live in poverty/
and you want to "help' them out right"?

of golly how sanctimonious of you?
isnt working 40 hours and living in poverty incentive enough to get a better job; or training in something that will allow you to have a better job?
those jobs were never meant to be careers.

you libs just dont get it. you're a bunch of phony, sanctimonous idiots that will trash an economy with artificial "solutions" just to pander for votes and adhere to a far-left ideology
 
Please cite the economic research that supports your claim. Most economists agree that raising the minimum wage grows the economy. Economic growth is defined by the exchange of capital throughout the economy. More money in consumer's hands means more growth.

Sequestering capital among the very few is what kills the economy. The money socked away in off shore accounts does not flow through the American economy nor the American tax base.

more money won be in consumer's hands if they lose their job. what an idiot.
oh and the government's own CBO says hikig the minimum wage will cost over 500,000 jobs

how can you hope to debate when all you have are talkingpoints and stupidity/
and how is it that you dont follow your own logic of more money being in people's hands means more in the economy when it comes to the rich?
how is it then left-wing nutjobs say the rich dont spent the extra money on the economy/

they dont build mansions? buy nice things?


left-wing idiots are losers who lie to themselves
10,000 families would spend more on consumer goods than 1,000 wealthy families because the wealthy don't spend their money, they save it.

an iditotic talking point spoon-fed to you by a billionaire leftist hypocrite george soros

especiall stupid considering just one rich family can spend more than the 10,000 you mention. isnt it you left-wingers that are always sreaming about the wealth gap?

so it would only take a fraction of rich families spendiing on the economy to put more in than all those families

and werent you the one talking about "gated communities"?

do you think gates are free to the rich?
 
consumer goods are only part of the economy dolt. regular people make yachts and build additions on houses and put in pools...etc and all the things rich people do
and how much money will be spent on the economy when you people hike the minimum wage and people LOSE THEIR JOBS?

WHO has more to spend; someone with a job; ro somebody collecting unemployment./
what kind of idiot thinks people collecting unemployment have more money to spend than people getting more, even slightly more, when working?
 
There isn't a single ounce or even gram of truth to the liberal lie that conservatives are racist. None. When asked they will point to how the majority of blacks vote democrat. That's it, that's all they have to base the accusation on. We all know exactly why blacks vote democrat and that's simply because they buy their votes with money. The GOP wants to reign in welfare abuse and the DNC says its because they hate black people. That's all there is to it. It's bull shit.

Wow! The ignorance and stereotypes are astounding.
 
YAWN
no it really is that simple. politically they were Democrats

and the deadliest places for people of color are still places run by Dems; this time liberal and progressive

idiots and hypocrites

Imbecile alert! :rofl:

Politically they were Southern, White, Conservative, Christians who registered as Democrats in opposition to liberals and liberal policies. :lol:


Christian Home Schooled are you?

Revisionist history alert! They were Democrats, period.

Conservative ideologues within the Democratic party. Correct: Southern, White, Conservative, Christian Democrats of old days gone by


:laugh:


Fools abound
 
Imbecile alert! :rofl:

Politically they were Southern, White, Conservative, Christians who registered as Democrats in opposition to liberals and liberal policies. :lol:


Christian Home Schooled are you?

Revisionist history alert! They were Democrats, period.

Conservative ideologues within the Democratic party. Correct: Southern, White, Conservative, Christian Democrats of old days gone by


:laugh:


Fools abound



Democrats in name and deed.

fools abound indeed


Dems are still doing the same things; this time instead of Black people te people to be vilified are white and christian and male. the left has gone full circle in their ring of ignorant blind hypocrisy
 
comical; in a sad and pathetic way really. the Left has taken over the Democrat party; Moveon.org says "we bought it"

now they decided democrat means "conservative" because Dems just arent far enough to the Left for their tastes

so they call themselves progressives and liberals and what have they done?
ini the 8th year of Progressive Majority rule Black and Hispanic Americans have it MUCH TOUGHER than they did when Republicans ran things

true story

idiots and hypocrites
 
Please cite the economic research that supports your claim. Most economists agree that raising the minimum wage grows the economy. Economic growth is defined by the exchange of capital throughout the economy. More money in consumer's hands means more growth.

Sequestering capital among the very few is what kills the economy. The money socked away in off shore accounts does not flow through the American economy nor the American tax base.

Raising the minimum wage is like killing fleas on your dog with a shotgun, something I would expect of most dim-witted Liberals.

Workers must produce at least as much value to the employer as they are paid or the employers business fails and jobs are lost . Raising the minimum wage increases the amount an employee must produce to justify being paid. Raising the wage across the board reduces competitiveness as well, both domestically and internationally.
So, in your opinion, are the largest companies that pay minimum wage e.g. McDonald's, Wal*Mart and Home Depot just cannot afford to pay a higher pay scale? Aren't these among the most profitable companies in the country?

And wouldn't stimulating consumer buying power result in more economic activity?

Should an American work a 40 hour week and yet live in poverty?

It seems to me that Conservatives are more interested in keeping the majority of wealth out of consumer's hands and firmly in the pockets of the very few.

Cut the horseshit, nobody working a 40 hr. week lives in poverty thats a friggin liberal Myth. They have a roof over their heads , food in their bellies , schools for their children, all courtesy of the taxpayer. If they feel they don't make enough to feed themselves EBT/ Food Stamps provides adequate food for children and adults alike. I recall flipping burgers for a period myself and anyone who isn't a silver spoon faggot , such as the "occupy" assholes has probably at one point in their lives worked on the bottom of the "food chain" , but climbed out.

Those living in "Poverty" are primarily those that 1.] have chosen to do so because they chose an addiction over responsibilities -or-2.] Those who are mentally incompetent and have evaded societal attempts to care for them.
 
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You must be smoking one. Europe had slavery, probably from day one. They are also very populated compared to here, especially in the 1700's. And they weren't growing cotton, which requires a lot of room peryeild and the manpower to harvest it. I guess you'll ignore anything to hold onto your beliefs.

Slavery was replaced by serfdom in the west by 900 CE and after, and with the rise of the nation states in the 15th and 16th centuries, serfdom disappeared in the West and more slowly in the East, as exemplified in Russia.

In other words, long before the first industrial revolution begins in the middle of the 18th century, slavery does not exist in Europe.

Google disappearance of slavery in Europe - Bing and do some general reading.

I recommend both "1491" and "1493" by Charles Mann, they both clearly define Europe's role in the slave trade.

Excellent works.
 

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