'US will veto any Palestinian statehood bid at UN'

[Billo_Really]

Palestine is Israel, birdbrain. The Romans invented the word palestine to call Israel during the Roman Empire. Last I checked, the Roman Empire ended 1500 years ago.

You're doing quite a bit inventing yourself.

Israel exists west of the Jordan river, not east.

 

[jillian]

Does anyone here still claim that there isn't a powerful Jewish lobby rooted deeply in the US government?

Indeed, he US is Zionist occupied territory. There is no excuse for keeping the Palestinians in stateless limbo.

When you wage war and lose, you don't get do-overs. If the pals wanted peace, they could have had it years ago. Bummer they wont make a deal and keep lobbing missiles at Israel. *shrug*

 

[jillian]

It's part of US foreign policy.

Which begs the question, who dictates US foreign policy. That tribe of black gentry.

The same position exists towards S Korea and Japan. The US will not capitulate to tyrants, dictators, and brutal terroristic regimes nor will it turn it's back on its allies.

The regime that rules the Palestinians is Israel, judas.

Are you sure? Last I checked it was Hamas, Islamist radicals listed on the US state dept and European countries as TERRORIST that ruled Gaza. You think these guys are "friends" of America in any way shape or form? Now who's the Judas?

Careful. Anti-Semites get confused by facts.

 

[JStone]

Palestine is Israel, birdbrain. The Romans invented the word palestine to call Israel during the Roman Empire. Last I checked, the Roman Empire ended 1500 years ago.

You're doing quite a bit inventing yourself.

Israel exists west of the Jordan river, not east.

Palestine was a bogus word invented by Roman pagan occupiers for Jewish Israel during the Roman Empire. Last I checked, Israel was not owned by Italy.

Your history lesson for the day.

Biblical Historian and Scholar Dr. L. Michael White, Ph.D. and Master of Divinity Degrees from Yale University ....

Responses to the Roman Destruction of Jerusalem

The Roman destruction of Jerusalem sent shock waves through the Jewish population. The loss of life was devastating, but the destruction of Jerusalem and especially the Temple was even more devastating.

Several other effects were discernable in the period of the postwar reconstruction...

Roman coinage of the period carried the legend Judaea Capta [Judaea Captured], a clear statement of the Jewish subjugation

The province of Judaea was reorganized and even renamed Palestina [the Latin form of the old regional name Philistia]. The name change was another slap in the face to Jewish identity
From Jesus to Christianity: How Four Generations of Visionaries & Storytellers Created the New Testament and Christian Faith by L. Michael White

PBS...

In 70 AD, after a siege marked by starvation and terror crucifixions, the Roman army broke through the walls of Jerusalem. Not only did they kill thousands of Jews, they laid waste to the Temple, the only place on Earth, according to Biblical law, where Jews could worship God.

It was the death of the religion of Priests and sacrifices described by the Hebrew Bible. But, it would not be the death of Judaism. In the years ahead, some of the greatest religious minds in history would struggle to reinvent the religion of Moses and David.

But, the Jews would be forced to work during a period of almost inconceivable bloodshed and turmoil. They would watch their people be expelled from Jerusalem on pain of death and see the name of their homeland changed from Judea to Palestine

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLypbbijk2I&feature=relmfu]The Gifts of the Jews - YouTube[/ame]

 

[Roudy]

Which tyrant is Japan threatened by? (except Uncle Sam of course )

S.Korea is threatened? The North's army will run out of gas 5 minutes into their offensive. And as soon as the army crosses into S.Korea, they'll all surrender and ask for some fucking food!

Japan is a vital ally and critical to the US. The US made a commitment to Japan after WWII, to rebuilt it and protect it, provided it does not create an offensive military. Japan and South Korea are threatened by N. Koreaon a regular basis today, and in some cases China. In the past the USSR was also a serious threat to both these countries. That is why the US still maintains a healthy troop presence in S Korea along the demilitarized zone, as well as in Japan. There are also other places / allies of US National Security interest around the world that the US has declared it is ready to go to war over if threatened: Israel, the Straits of Hormuz (main oil artery), Panam Canal, any of our closer European NATO allies such as UK, Germany, France, Italy, etc.

Arabs / Muslims on the other hand allied themselves with the Nazis during WWII, and then became client states of the Soviets (some still are). This prompted the US the start supporting Israel miltarily in the 60's as a counterbalance to Russian military influence in the region. Until then the US did not provide any military assistance or hardware to Israel. By then Israel had already won four of it's major wars against Arabs.

N.Korea is threatening with what exactly, their missile barely got off the ground, and if they invade S.Korea, we could pound them from the air and the sea, so we wouldn't need to get some good American men and women killed.

You seem a little confused . The long range missile had no relevance to the hundreds of thousands of short range missiles that the North Koreans have pointed at the South. Plus they've already successfully tested a nuclear bomb. You think the South's concerns are unfounded? Or perhaps the heavy fortified and huge US military presence along the DMZ is un necessary?

 

[Billo_Really]

Palestine was a bogus word invented by Roman pagan occupiers for Jewish Israel during the Roman Empire. Last I checked, Israel was not owned by Italy.

Your history lesson for the day.

You really have a hard time responding to anything specific. You keep throwing up irrelevant crap, then acting like you just said something, when it wasn't even your words you were using.

 

[Billo_Really]

When you wage war and lose, you don't get do-overs. If the pals wanted peace, they could have had it years ago. Bummer they wont make a deal and keep lobbing missiles at Israel. *shrug*

If the Pals didn't want peace, then why was it Israel who violated the ceasefire?

And let's get one thing clear, this is not a war, it's an "occupation".

 

[JStone]

Palestine was a bogus word invented by Roman pagan occupiers for Jewish Israel during the Roman Empire. Last I checked, Israel was not owned by Italy.

Your history lesson for the day.

You really have a hard time responding to anything specific. You keep throwing up irrelevant crap, then acting like you just said something, when it wasn't even your words you were using.

You lost. Now, walk away before you make a further fool of yourself.

After you familiarize yourself with grade school spelling, have an adult with a functioning brain open a history book for you http://www.usmessageboard.com/5141405-post489.html

 

[Ariux]

When you wage war and lose, you don't get do-overs. If the pals wanted peace, they could have had it years ago. Bummer they wont make a deal and keep lobbing missiles at Israel. *shrug*

Liar, it was the Jews who waged war, and they only won with western support. But, come the day that the Zionist regime is overthrown, I'll be sure to remind your ilk that when you wage war and lose, you don't get do-overs. The regime is living on borrowed time and its special citizens headed to their eternal holocaust.

Anywho, your response is irrelevant. It's immoral to keep the Palestinians living in stateless limbo.

 

[jillian]

When you wage war and lose, you don't get do-overs. If the pals wanted peace, they could have had it years ago. Bummer they wont make a deal and keep lobbing missiles at Israel. *shrug*

Liar, it was the Jews who waged war, and they only won with western support. But, come the day that the Zionist regime is overthrown, I'll be sure to remind your ilk that when you wage war and lose, you don't get do-overs. The regime is living on borrowed time and its special citizens headed to their eternal holocaust.

Anywho, your response is irrelevant. It's immoral to keep the Palestinians living in stateless limbo.

I think perhaps you should come back when you've learned the history of the region.

Bet you liked using the word "holocaust", though.

Dismissed

 

[JStone]

When you wage war and lose, you don't get do-overs. If the pals wanted peace, they could have had it years ago. Bummer they wont make a deal and keep lobbing missiles at Israel. *shrug*

Liar, it was the Jews who waged war, and they only won with western support. But, come the day that the Zionist regime is overthrown, I'll be sure to remind your ilk that when you wage war and lose, you don't get do-overs. The regime is living on borrowed time and its special citizens headed to their eternal holocaust.

Anywho, your response is irrelevant. It's immoral to keep the Palestinians living in stateless limbo.

How do you use the internet without Google since Google relies on Israel?

Better not have an Apple iPad, iPod or iPhone which all rely on Israeli technology.

Do the Arabs and muslimes make a search engine and make ipods and ipads, too?


[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SfnC0vDx048]Innovation at Google's R&D Center in Israel - YouTube[/ame]

Apple First Development Center Outside US
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yA4wnqRAuhI]Apple to set up Israel development center - YouTube[/ame]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qH1mYikmYzo]Apple to Acquire Anobit? - YouTube[/ame]

Apple today confirmed earlier reports it has acquired Israel-based flash memory startup Anobit....which makes flash memory technology found in the iPhone, iPad, and MacBook Air.. The deal was reported to be worth $400 million to $500 million. Apple confirms Anobit acquisition | Apple - CNET News

 

[Hossfly]

Why did the Palisimian PM not show up for a meeting with Netanyahu today with a letter from Abu Mazen?

 

[Roudy]

When you wage war and lose, you don't get do-overs. If the pals wanted peace, they could have had it years ago. Bummer they wont make a deal and keep lobbing missiles at Israel. *shrug*

Liar, it was the Jews who waged war, and they only won with western support. But, come the day that the Zionist regime is overthrown, I'll be sure to remind your ilk that when you wage war and lose, you don't get do-overs. The regime is living on borrowed time and its special citizens headed to their eternal holocaust.

Anywho, your response is irrelevant. It's immoral to keep the Palestinians living in stateless limbo.

Anytime that Israel is attacked, "it was the Jews that waged war". Notice this trend goes back to The Nazi era where "it was the Jews that declared war on Germany" and before that during the Inquisition "it was the Jews that killed Christ".

Anti semetism is a mental disorder.

Is is not Israel's responsibility to create a state that never existed. The Palestinians do not want a state, they want Israel destroyed.

 

[Roudy]

Japan is a vital ally and critical to the US. The US made a commitment to Japan after WWII, to rebuilt it and protect it, provided it does not create an offensive military. Japan and South Korea are threatened by N. Koreaon a regular basis today, and in some cases China. In the past the USSR was also a serious threat to both these countries. That is why the US still maintains a healthy troop presence in S Korea along the demilitarized zone, as well as in Japan. There are also other places / allies of US National Security interest around the world that the US has declared it is ready to go to war over if threatened: Israel, the Straits of Hormuz (main oil artery), Panam Canal, any of our closer European NATO allies such as UK, Germany, France, Italy, etc.

Arabs / Muslims on the other hand allied themselves with the Nazis during WWII, and then became client states of the Soviets (some still are). This prompted the US the start supporting Israel miltarily in the 60's as a counterbalance to Russian military influence in the region. Until then the US did not provide any military assistance or hardware to Israel. By then Israel had already won four of it's major wars against Arabs.

N.Korea is threatening with what exactly, their missile barely got off the ground, and if they invade S.Korea, we could pound them from the air and the sea, so we wouldn't need to get some good American men and women killed.

North Korea threatens the South on a regular basis. Are you misinformed or just ignorant. Have you talked to a S. Korean to see what they think when the N. Korean's threatened to level Seoul with hundreds of thousands of missiles the North Koreans have pointing at the South.

Not to mention N Korea is the 4th largest military in the world.

 

[Ariux]

Anytime that Israel is attacked, "it was the Jews that waged war". Notice this trend goes back to The Nazi era where "it was the Jews that declared war on Germany" and before that during the Inquisition "it was the Jews that killed Christ".

The June War, 1967 Arab-Israeli War, or Third Arab-Israeli War, was fought between June 5 and 10, 1967, by Israel and the neighboring states of Egypt (known at the time as the United Arab Republic), Jordan, and Syria. After a period of high tension between Israel and its neighbors, the war began on June 5 with Israel launching surprise air strikes against Arab forces. Wikipedia

1 Thessalonians 2:14 For you, brothers, became imitators of God’s churches in Judea, which are in Christ Jesus: You suffered from your own countrymen the same things those churches suffered from the Jews, 15 who killed the Lord Jesus and the prophets and also drove us out. They displease God and are hostile to all men.

Any friend of Israel is a liar, a piece of shit, and an enemy of God.

 

[Billo_Really]

Any friend of Israel is a liar, a piece of shit, and an enemy of God.

I wouldn't go that far. There are Israeli human rights groups in Israel that are actively protesting their governments treatment of the Palestinian's. In response, the Knesset is in the process of outlawing dissent.

 

[JStone]

Any friend of Israel is a liar, a piece of shit, and an enemy of God.

I wouldn't go that far. There are Israeli human rights groups in Israel that are actively protesting their governments treatment of the Palestinian's. In response, the Knesset is in the process of outlawing dissent.

Shouldn't you first master grade school spelling before delving into international politics? http://www.usmessageboard.com/5141405-post489.html

Washington Post: Why Palestinians Want To Be Israelis

One of the givens of the Middle East peace process is that Palestinians are eager to be free of rule by Israel and to live in a state of their own. That's why a new poll of the Arabs of East Jerusalem is striking: It shows that more of those people actually would prefer to be citizens of Israel than of a Palestinian state.

The awkward fact is that the 270,000 Arabs who live in East Jerusalem may not be very enthusiastic about joining Palestine. The survey, which was designed and supervised by former State Department Middle East researcher David Pollock, found that only 30 percent said they would prefer to be citizens of Palestine in a two-state solution, while 35 percent said they would choose Israeli citizenship. (The rest said they didn't know or refused to answer.) Forty percent said they would consider moving to another neighborhood in order to become a citizen of Israel rather than Palestine, and 54 percent said that if their neighborhood were assigned to Israel, they would not move to Palestine.

The reasons for these attitudes are pretty understandable, even healthy. Arabs say they prefer Israel's jobs, schools, health care and welfare benefits to those of a Palestinian state -- and their nationalism is not strong enough for them to set aside these advantages in order to live in an Arab country.
PostPartisan - Why Palestinians want to be Israeli citizens

 

[Billo_Really]

Shouldn't you first master grade school spelling before delving into international politics? http://www.usmessageboard.com/5141405-post489.html

Washington Post: Why Palestinians Want To Be Israelis

Again posting shit that is completely irrelevant to the topic. I bet you're one of those people who likes to hear himself talk.

 

[Ariux]

Washington Post: Why Palestinians Want To Be Israelis

One of the givens of the Middle East peace process is that Palestinians are eager to be free of rule by Israel and to live in a state of their own. That's why a new poll of the Arabs of East Jerusalem is striking: It shows that more of those people actually would prefer to be citizens of Israel than of a Palestinian state.

I'm reminded of what a great man once said, "Any friend of Israel is a liar, a piece of shit, and an enemy of God."

Sometimes a lie is in the form of the truth told in a false context, as you've done. I don't know the validity of the poll your article refers to, but I can easily accept it. If the question to the Palestinians is "Do you want Jews to rule you", the answer would be an overwhelming "no" (unlike in America where the answer is "Yes, but don't mention it."). But, when the question is Israeli citizenship vs. a two two-state solution, the answer ought to be different. With the existence of Israel, a two-state solution is completely untenable. They'd have a country constantly under siege by Israel. But, as Israeli citizens, they'd have the headcount to rename Israel to Palestine.

 

[JStone]

Shouldn't you first master grade school spelling before delving into international politics? http://www.usmessageboard.com/5141405-post489.html

Washington Post: Why Palestinians Want To Be Israelis

Again posting shit that is completely irrelevant to the topic. I bet you're one of those people who likes to hear himself talk.