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Bullshit. Same way lobbyists got to 3 Republicans and they couldn't get it done, same thing happened to us. Blue dogs.I wouldn't bet money on you that if I were you. Obama is probably going to be seen as one of the finest presidents we've ever had. A lesser man could not have pulled off what he did under the circumstances. Republicans controlledl the Congress and the purse strings but Obama earned his paycheck while we paid republicans to do absolutely nothing. Now the chickens have come home to roost Republican got blindsided by the Trump Victory and now they don't have a clue as to how to run the government due to their 8 years of idleness during the Obama era.History will show he did a great job. You were conned.You do know Obama left Trump an unemployment rate of under 5% don't you?
LOL...what did Barry have to do with the unemployment rate, JQ? He really didn't have an economic plan to create jobs for the last six years he was in office! He's the guy who had to use "Jobs created or saved" as his go to statistic because despite spending nearly a trillion dollars in stimulus money to create jobs...so few jobs were created that it was a major embarrassment to Obama and his minions!
I disagree, Sealy...I think historians will find Barack Obama memorable because he was the first black President of the United States. I think his "accomplishments" will be seen as modest at best and in some ways as what led to the rejection of Progressive political power in the US.
You can only blame so much on GOP "control", JQ! The fact is...Barack Obama came into office with large Democratic majorities in the House and the Senate. What he DID with those majorities is what led to the biggest one term turn around in modern political history with dozens of Democrats getting voted out of office because they supported things like the Affordable Care Act and the Obama Stimulus that managed to waste nearly a trillion dollars of tax payer money while creating so few jobs they attempted to hide how bad things were behind the whole "Jobs created or saved" farce!
Barry had the power. The voters took that power away from him because of what he did with it. When he was first elected he lectured the GOP minorities that elections have consequences and that he had won. When the GOP took back the House and Senate, Barack Obama did a complete 180 on that concept and declared that he had a phone and a pen and if Congress wouldn't give him what he wanted...then he would use Executive Orders to push through his agenda.
I'm rather amused by your view that the GOP was at fault for stopping Obama's agenda in 2010...when they were elected by the voters and sent to Washington to do just that...but you think it's admirable for the Democrats to oppose EVERYTHING that Trump proposes even though Trump was elected by the people to change the way things work in Washington.
That's just it. They didn't vote. The GOP obstruction frustrated occupy wallstreet and those idiots didn't vote out the bad actors.Then people are as dumb as Republicans think. When we didn't vote the Republicans out in 2010 we proved we don't pay attention and we reward bad behavior.History will show he did a great job. You were conned.You do know Obama left Trump an unemployment rate of under 5% don't you?
LOL...what did Barry have to do with the unemployment rate, JQ? He really didn't have an economic plan to create jobs for the last six years he was in office! He's the guy who had to use "Jobs created or saved" as his go to statistic because despite spending nearly a trillion dollars in stimulus money to create jobs...so few jobs were created that it was a major embarrassment to Obama and his minions!
I disagree, Sealy...I think historians will find Barack Obama memorable because he was the first black President of the United States. I think his "accomplishments" will be seen as modest at best and in some ways as what led to the rejection of Progressive political power in the US.
That ok though because the Republicans are even more ineffective. Maybe Trump will turn people back. Although he hasn't ruined Obama's good economy yet but it's early. Bush didn't even get 9-11ed at this point.
Your memory is rather bad, Sealy...
The Republicans were already "out" going into the 2010 mid-terms...the voters voted out Democrats and replaced them with Republicans. Did you somehow "miss" all of that?
No, The president really has no direct control over job creation but he gets credit when it happens and he gets derided when the unemployment rate goes up. None of that has anything to do with me, that's just the way it is.What trillions was that? As far as tepid job growth...the president can do little more than attempt to cajole the business community into hiring by offering incentives or by giving money to the general population to spend. ..when people spend moneyI find it interesting how intellectually dishonest Republicans are when it comes to how good Obama did.History will show he did a great job. You were conned.
Is there any question if it were McCain or Romney Republicans would have made the argument that presidents don't have that much to do with the economy.
Or they be bragging about McCain 80 months of job growth.
I remember last year they didn't want to hear about the stock market this year it's all they talk about.
And now the unemployment is 4% but last year it was 20% according to liar Republicans
What's really intellectually dishonest, Sealy..my pointing out that Obama struggled with economic policy throughout his two terms...or your claim that 80 months of tepid job growth, despite spending trillions in stimulus, is an accomplishment?
the economy booms and hiring ensues.
But since Obama didn't have control of the purse strings, his economic. and job growth aspirations were sevetely limited..
.
So first you claim job growth as Obama's big accomplishment...but then you turn around and state that a President really has no control over job creation? Did you want to rethink your premise here, JQ?
Slow and steady.No, The president really has no direct control over job creation but he gets credit when it happens and he gets derided when the unemployment rate goes up. None of that has anything to do with me, that's just the way it is.What trillions was that? As far as tepid job growth...the president can do little more than attempt to cajole the business community into hiring by offering incentives or by giving money to the general population to spend. ..when people spend moneyI find it interesting how intellectually dishonest Republicans are when it comes to how good Obama did.
Is there any question if it were McCain or Romney Republicans would have made the argument that presidents don't have that much to do with the economy.
Or they be bragging about McCain 80 months of job growth.
I remember last year they didn't want to hear about the stock market this year it's all they talk about.
And now the unemployment is 4% but last year it was 20% according to liar Republicans
What's really intellectually dishonest, Sealy..my pointing out that Obama struggled with economic policy throughout his two terms...or your claim that 80 months of tepid job growth, despite spending trillions in stimulus, is an accomplishment?
the economy booms and hiring ensues.
But since Obama didn't have control of the purse strings, his economic. and job growth aspirations were sevetely limited..
.
So first you claim job growth as Obama's big accomplishment...but then you turn around and state that a President really has no control over job creation? Did you want to rethink your premise here, JQ?
So explain why if Barry has no control over job creation you chose having 80 months of job growth (tepid as was...) as his biggest accomplishment? I'm amused that you don't see that you've basically proven that Obama really didn't have any great success with the economy. What he oversaw was the worst recovery from a recession since FDR's progressive policies extended a recession into The Great Depression!
Where did you see me post I thought Job creation was Obama's biggest accomplishment? His biggest accomplishment was the PPACA. Getting facts straight sure isn't one of your big accomplishments.No, The president really has no direct control over job creation but he gets credit when it happens and he gets derided when the unemployment rate goes up. None of that has anything to do with me, that's just the way it is.What trillions was that? As far as tepid job growth...the president can do little more than attempt to cajole the business community into hiring by offering incentives or by giving money to the general population to spend. ..when people spend moneyI find it interesting how intellectually dishonest Republicans are when it comes to how good Obama did.
Is there any question if it were McCain or Romney Republicans would have made the argument that presidents don't have that much to do with the economy.
Or they be bragging about McCain 80 months of job growth.
I remember last year they didn't want to hear about the stock market this year it's all they talk about.
And now the unemployment is 4% but last year it was 20% according to liar Republicans
What's really intellectually dishonest, Sealy..my pointing out that Obama struggled with economic policy throughout his two terms...or your claim that 80 months of tepid job growth, despite spending trillions in stimulus, is an accomplishment?
the economy booms and hiring ensues.
But since Obama didn't have control of the purse strings, his economic. and job growth aspirations were sevetely limited..
.
So first you claim job growth as Obama's big accomplishment...but then you turn around and state that a President really has no control over job creation? Did you want to rethink your premise here, JQ?
So explain why if Barry has no control over job creation you chose having 80 months of job growth (tepid as was...) as his biggest accomplishment? I'm amused that you don't see that you've basically proven that Obama really didn't have any great success with the economy. What he oversaw was the worst recovery from a recession since FDR's progressive policies extended a recession into The Great Depression!
Where did you see me post I thought Job creation was Obama's biggest accomplishment? His biggest accomplishment was the PPACA. Getting facts straight sure isn't one of your big accomplishments.No, The president really has no direct control over job creation but he gets credit when it happens and he gets derided when the unemployment rate goes up. None of that has anything to do with me, that's just the way it is.What trillions was that? As far as tepid job growth...the president can do little more than attempt to cajole the business community into hiring by offering incentives or by giving money to the general population to spend. ..when people spend moneyWhat's really intellectually dishonest, Sealy..my pointing out that Obama struggled with economic policy throughout his two terms...or your claim that 80 months of tepid job growth, despite spending trillions in stimulus, is an accomplishment?
the economy booms and hiring ensues.
But since Obama didn't have control of the purse strings, his economic. and job growth aspirations were sevetely limited..
.
So first you claim job growth as Obama's big accomplishment...but then you turn around and state that a President really has no control over job creation? Did you want to rethink your premise here, JQ?
So explain why if Barry has no control over job creation you chose having 80 months of job growth (tepid as was...) as his biggest accomplishment? I'm amused that you don't see that you've basically proven that Obama really didn't have any great success with the economy. What he oversaw was the worst recovery from a recession since FDR's progressive policies extended a recession into The Great Depression!
Now that i have shown how flawed your reasoning is, let's move on to your next. groundless grievance. We've never had a recession of the magnitude that Obama faced when he came into office except the Great Depression. Obama withstood a test equaled only by the civil war and the Great Depression., I'm glad he was President instead of trump when that happened. No one cares about your trivial recovery statistics. All we care about is that economy recovered, people got jobs and the economy is thriving again... not because of trump but because of Obama.
Where did you see me post I thought Job creation was Obama's biggest accomplishment? His biggest accomplishment was the PPACA. Getting facts straight sure isn't one of your big accomplishments.No, The president really has no direct control over job creation but he gets credit when it happens and he gets derided when the unemployment rate goes up. None of that has anything to do with me, that's just the way it is.What trillions was that? As far as tepid job growth...the president can do little more than attempt to cajole the business community into hiring by offering incentives or by giving money to the general population to spend. ..when people spend moneyWhat's really intellectually dishonest, Sealy..my pointing out that Obama struggled with economic policy throughout his two terms...or your claim that 80 months of tepid job growth, despite spending trillions in stimulus, is an accomplishment?
the economy booms and hiring ensues.
But since Obama didn't have control of the purse strings, his economic. and job growth aspirations were sevetely limited..
.
So first you claim job growth as Obama's big accomplishment...but then you turn around and state that a President really has no control over job creation? Did you want to rethink your premise here, JQ?
So explain why if Barry has no control over job creation you chose having 80 months of job growth (tepid as was...) as his biggest accomplishment? I'm amused that you don't see that you've basically proven that Obama really didn't have any great success with the economy. What he oversaw was the worst recovery from a recession since FDR's progressive policies extended a recession into The Great Depression!
Now that i have shown how flawed your reasoning is, let's move on to your next. groundless grievance. We've never had a recession of the magnitude that Obama faced when he came into office except the Great Depression. Obama withstood a test equaled only by the civil war and the Great Depression., I'm glad he was President instead of trump when that happened. No one cares about your trivial recovery statistics. All we care about is that economy recovered, people got jobs and the economy is thriving again... not because of trump but because of Obama.
Where did you see me post I thought Job creation was Obama's biggest accomplishment? His biggest accomplishment was the PPACA. Getting facts straight sure isn't one of your big accomplishments.No, The president really has no direct control over job creation but he gets credit when it happens and he gets derided when the unemployment rate goes up. None of that has anything to do with me, that's just the way it is.What trillions was that? As far as tepid job growth...the president can do little more than attempt to cajole the business community into hiring by offering incentives or by giving money to the general population to spend. ..when people spend moneyWhat's really intellectually dishonest, Sealy..my pointing out that Obama struggled with economic policy throughout his two terms...or your claim that 80 months of tepid job growth, despite spending trillions in stimulus, is an accomplishment?
the economy booms and hiring ensues.
But since Obama didn't have control of the purse strings, his economic. and job growth aspirations were sevetely limited..
.
So first you claim job growth as Obama's big accomplishment...but then you turn around and state that a President really has no control over job creation? Did you want to rethink your premise here, JQ?
So explain why if Barry has no control over job creation you chose having 80 months of job growth (tepid as was...) as his biggest accomplishment? I'm amused that you don't see that you've basically proven that Obama really didn't have any great success with the economy. What he oversaw was the worst recovery from a recession since FDR's progressive policies extended a recession into The Great Depression!
Now that i have shown how flawed your reasoning is, let's move on to your next. groundless grievance. We've never had a recession of the magnitude that Obama faced when he came into office except the Great Depression. Obama withstood a test equaled only by the civil war and the Great Depression., I'm glad he was President instead of trump when that happened. No one cares about your trivial recovery statistics. All we care about is that economy recovered, people got jobs and the economy is thriving again... not because of trump but because of Obama.
The recession ended by June 2009.
No one cares but you pseudo- conservatives.Weakest recovery since WW2.
Name one worse since the GreatWhere did you see me post I thought Job creation was Obama's biggest accomplishment? His biggest accomplishment was the PPACA. Getting facts straight sure isn't one of your big accomplishments.No, The president really has no direct control over job creation but he gets credit when it happens and he gets derided when the unemployment rate goes up. None of that has anything to do with me, that's just the way it is.What trillions was that? As far as tepid job growth...the president can do little more than attempt to cajole the business community into hiring by offering incentives or by giving money to the general population to spend. ..when people spend money
the economy booms and hiring ensues.
But since Obama didn't have control of the purse strings, his economic. and job growth aspirations were sevetely limited..
.
So first you claim job growth as Obama's big accomplishment...but then you turn around and state that a President really has no control over job creation? Did you want to rethink your premise here, JQ?
So explain why if Barry has no control over job creation you chose having 80 months of job growth (tepid as was...) as his biggest accomplishment? I'm amused that you don't see that you've basically proven that Obama really didn't have any great success with the economy. What he oversaw was the worst recovery from a recession since FDR's progressive policies extended a recession into The Great Depression!
Now that i have shown how flawed your reasoning is, let's move on to your next. groundless grievance. We've never had a recession of the magnitude that Obama faced when he came into office except the Great Depression. Obama withstood a test equaled only by the civil war and the Great Depression., I'm glad he was President instead of trump when that happened. No one cares about your trivial recovery statistics. All we care about is that economy recovered, people got jobs and the economy is thriving again... not because of trump but because of Obama.
We've had many recessions in the past that were just as bad if not worse than the recession that Obama inherited, JQ! You need to study some American economic history!
Obama is no longer president and the PPACA is still in place and stands strong in the face of a government dominated entirely by Republicans.... Despite lies and promises by the Republicans to repeal and replace, THE PPACA is holding its own because people like it; and, more importantly, they need it. I expect Obamacare to morph into single-payer. That's the thing that is needed and that's the only thing that's going to work. But in either case, Obama's legacy will live on.Where did you see me post I thought Job creation was Obama's biggest accomplishment? His biggest accomplishment was the PPACA. Getting facts straight sure isn't one of your big accomplishments.No, The president really has no direct control over job creation but he gets credit when it happens and he gets derided when the unemployment rate goes up. None of that has anything to do with me, that's just the way it is.What trillions was that? As far as tepid job growth...the president can do little more than attempt to cajole the business community into hiring by offering incentives or by giving money to the general population to spend. ..when people spend money
the economy booms and hiring ensues.
But since Obama didn't have control of the purse strings, his economic. and job growth aspirations were sevetely limited..
.
So first you claim job growth as Obama's big accomplishment...but then you turn around and state that a President really has no control over job creation? Did you want to rethink your premise here, JQ?
So explain why if Barry has no control over job creation you chose having 80 months of job growth (tepid as was...) as his biggest accomplishment? I'm amused that you don't see that you've basically proven that Obama really didn't have any great success with the economy. What he oversaw was the worst recovery from a recession since FDR's progressive policies extended a recession into The Great Depression!
Now that i have shown how flawed your reasoning is, let's move on to your next. groundless grievance. We've never had a recession of the magnitude that Obama faced when he came into office except the Great Depression. Obama withstood a test equaled only by the civil war and the Great Depression., I'm glad he was President instead of trump when that happened. No one cares about your trivial recovery statistics. All we care about is that economy recovered, people got jobs and the economy is thriving again... not because of trump but because of Obama.
So Obama's biggest accomplishment was the Affordable Care Act? Here's the big problem with that narrative, JQ...the ACA was set up to fail and sold to the American people by lying to them about what it would do and what it would cost. If THAT is Barry's biggest accomplishment...then it says volumes about how bad of a President he really was.
Name one worse since the GreatWhere did you see me post I thought Job creation was Obama's biggest accomplishment? His biggest accomplishment was the PPACA. Getting facts straight sure isn't one of your big accomplishments.No, The president really has no direct control over job creation but he gets credit when it happens and he gets derided when the unemployment rate goes up. None of that has anything to do with me, that's just the way it is.So first you claim job growth as Obama's big accomplishment...but then you turn around and state that a President really has no control over job creation? Did you want to rethink your premise here, JQ?
So explain why if Barry has no control over job creation you chose having 80 months of job growth (tepid as was...) as his biggest accomplishment? I'm amused that you don't see that you've basically proven that Obama really didn't have any great success with the economy. What he oversaw was the worst recovery from a recession since FDR's progressive policies extended a recession into The Great Depression!
Now that i have shown how flawed your reasoning is, let's move on to your next. groundless grievance. We've never had a recession of the magnitude that Obama faced when he came into office except the Great Depression. Obama withstood a test equaled only by the civil war and the Great Depression., I'm glad he was President instead of trump when that happened. No one cares about your trivial recovery statistics. All we care about is that economy recovered, people got jobs and the economy is thriving again... not because of trump but because of Obama.
We've had many recessions in the past that were just as bad if not worse than the recession that Obama inherited, JQ! You need to study some American economic history!
Depression.
Obama is no longer president and the PPACA is still in place and stands strong in the face of a government dominated entirely by Republicans.... Despite lies and promises by the Republicans to repeal and replace, THE PPACA is holding its own because people like it; and, more importantly, they need it. I expect Obamacare to morph into single-payer. That's the thing that is needed and that's the only thing that's going to work. But in either case, Obama's legacy will live on.Where did you see me post I thought Job creation was Obama's biggest accomplishment? His biggest accomplishment was the PPACA. Getting facts straight sure isn't one of your big accomplishments.No, The president really has no direct control over job creation but he gets credit when it happens and he gets derided when the unemployment rate goes up. None of that has anything to do with me, that's just the way it is.So first you claim job growth as Obama's big accomplishment...but then you turn around and state that a President really has no control over job creation? Did you want to rethink your premise here, JQ?
So explain why if Barry has no control over job creation you chose having 80 months of job growth (tepid as was...) as his biggest accomplishment? I'm amused that you don't see that you've basically proven that Obama really didn't have any great success with the economy. What he oversaw was the worst recovery from a recession since FDR's progressive policies extended a recession into The Great Depression!
Now that i have shown how flawed your reasoning is, let's move on to your next. groundless grievance. We've never had a recession of the magnitude that Obama faced when he came into office except the Great Depression. Obama withstood a test equaled only by the civil war and the Great Depression., I'm glad he was President instead of trump when that happened. No one cares about your trivial recovery statistics. All we care about is that economy recovered, people got jobs and the economy is thriving again... not because of trump but because of Obama.
So Obama's biggest accomplishment was the Affordable Care Act? Here's the big problem with that narrative, JQ...the ACA was set up to fail and sold to the American people by lying to them about what it would do and what it would cost. If THAT is Barry's biggest accomplishment...then it says volumes about how bad of a President he really was.
I find it laughable that you right wing Trump-bots can, with a straight face, use the word "lie" with such conviction when attacking Obama while ignoring the whoppers Trump unabashedly delivers on a daily basis. And Trump, the liar-in-chief, is echoing the GOP sentiment that Obamacare is going to implode. If it does, the Republicans own it. They have all the power to fix it, not the Democrats. And once again, a single-payer plan is likely the only viable option they may have.Obama is no longer president and the PPACA is still in place and stands strong in the face of a government dominated entirely by Republicans.... Despite lies and promises by the Republicans to repeal and replace, THE PPACA is holding its own because people like it; and, more importantly, they need it. I expect Obamacare to morph into single-payer. That's the thing that is needed and that's the only thing that's going to work. But in either case, Obama's legacy will live on.Where did you see me post I thought Job creation was Obama's biggest accomplishment? His biggest accomplishment was the PPACA. Getting facts straight sure isn't one of your big accomplishments.No, The president really has no direct control over job creation but he gets credit when it happens and he gets derided when the unemployment rate goes up. None of that has anything to do with me, that's just the way it is.
So explain why if Barry has no control over job creation you chose having 80 months of job growth (tepid as was...) as his biggest accomplishment? I'm amused that you don't see that you've basically proven that Obama really didn't have any great success with the economy. What he oversaw was the worst recovery from a recession since FDR's progressive policies extended a recession into The Great Depression!
Now that i have shown how flawed your reasoning is, let's move on to your next. groundless grievance. We've never had a recession of the magnitude that Obama faced when he came into office except the Great Depression. Obama withstood a test equaled only by the civil war and the Great Depression., I'm glad he was President instead of trump when that happened. No one cares about your trivial recovery statistics. All we care about is that economy recovered, people got jobs and the economy is thriving again... not because of trump but because of Obama.
So Obama's biggest accomplishment was the Affordable Care Act? Here's the big problem with that narrative, JQ...the ACA was set up to fail and sold to the American people by lying to them about what it would do and what it would cost. If THAT is Barry's biggest accomplishment...then it says volumes about how bad of a President he really was.
The Affordable Care Act is "standing strong"? It's actually imploding, JQ and needs to be completely overhauled. Of course Obamacare is going to "morph" into single payer...it's what Obama, Pelosi and Reid planned all along! Let's be honest here...you're giving Barack Obama "credit" for lying to the American people. That will be his legacy when the ACA is examined by historians. He's the President who couldn't get single payer passed but instead set up a healthcare system so flawed...one that gave so much free stuff away to so many people...that it was political suicide to do away with it.
I find it laughable that you right wing Trump-bots can, with a straight face, use the word "lie" with such conviction when attacking Obama while ignoring the whoppers Trump unabashedly delivers on a daily basis. And Trump, the liar-in-chief, is echoing the GOP sentiment that Obamacare is going to implode. If it does, the Republicans own it. They have all the power to fix it, not the Democrats. And once again, a single-payer plan is likely the only viable option they may have.Obama is no longer president and the PPACA is still in place and stands strong in the face of a government dominated entirely by Republicans.... Despite lies and promises by the Republicans to repeal and replace, THE PPACA is holding its own because people like it; and, more importantly, they need it. I expect Obamacare to morph into single-payer. That's the thing that is needed and that's the only thing that's going to work. But in either case, Obama's legacy will live on.Where did you see me post I thought Job creation was Obama's biggest accomplishment? His biggest accomplishment was the PPACA. Getting facts straight sure isn't one of your big accomplishments.So explain why if Barry has no control over job creation you chose having 80 months of job growth (tepid as was...) as his biggest accomplishment? I'm amused that you don't see that you've basically proven that Obama really didn't have any great success with the economy. What he oversaw was the worst recovery from a recession since FDR's progressive policies extended a recession into The Great Depression!
Now that i have shown how flawed your reasoning is, let's move on to your next. groundless grievance. We've never had a recession of the magnitude that Obama faced when he came into office except the Great Depression. Obama withstood a test equaled only by the civil war and the Great Depression., I'm glad he was President instead of trump when that happened. No one cares about your trivial recovery statistics. All we care about is that economy recovered, people got jobs and the economy is thriving again... not because of trump but because of Obama.
So Obama's biggest accomplishment was the Affordable Care Act? Here's the big problem with that narrative, JQ...the ACA was set up to fail and sold to the American people by lying to them about what it would do and what it would cost. If THAT is Barry's biggest accomplishment...then it says volumes about how bad of a President he really was.
The Affordable Care Act is "standing strong"? It's actually imploding, JQ and needs to be completely overhauled. Of course Obamacare is going to "morph" into single payer...it's what Obama, Pelosi and Reid planned all along! Let's be honest here...you're giving Barack Obama "credit" for lying to the American people. That will be his legacy when the ACA is examined by historians. He's the President who couldn't get single payer passed but instead set up a healthcare system so flawed...one that gave so much free stuff away to so many people...that it was political suicide to do away with it.
I asked to you to name a recession after the great depression that was worse than the one Obama faced. Still waiting.Name one worse since the GreatWhere did you see me post I thought Job creation was Obama's biggest accomplishment? His biggest accomplishment was the PPACA. Getting facts straight sure isn't one of your big accomplishments.No, The president really has no direct control over job creation but he gets credit when it happens and he gets derided when the unemployment rate goes up. None of that has anything to do with me, that's just the way it is.
So explain why if Barry has no control over job creation you chose having 80 months of job growth (tepid as was...) as his biggest accomplishment? I'm amused that you don't see that you've basically proven that Obama really didn't have any great success with the economy. What he oversaw was the worst recovery from a recession since FDR's progressive policies extended a recession into The Great Depression!
Now that i have shown how flawed your reasoning is, let's move on to your next. groundless grievance. We've never had a recession of the magnitude that Obama faced when he came into office except the Great Depression. Obama withstood a test equaled only by the civil war and the Great Depression., I'm glad he was President instead of trump when that happened. No one cares about your trivial recovery statistics. All we care about is that economy recovered, people got jobs and the economy is thriving again... not because of trump but because of Obama.
We've had many recessions in the past that were just as bad if not worse than the recession that Obama inherited, JQ! You need to study some American economic history!
Depression.
The Panic of 1907 and the Panic of 1873 were both just as bad as the recession that Barry inherited, JQ! Since you bring up The Great Recession it's interesting to note that the two bad recessions that were addressed using the Progressive fiscal policies by FDR and Barack Obama led to the two worst recoveries from a recession in the history of the US.
When the Republicans couldn't repeal and replace it, Obamacare became theirs. To remove themselves from that stigma, they're going to have to do what they said... replace it with something better. Wink wink! There is no plan. They don't have a clue. The only way out of this mess is single-payer. You know it, they know it and Obama knew it.I find it laughable that you right wing Trump-bots can, with a straight face, use the word "lie" with such conviction when attacking Obama while ignoring the whoppers Trump unabashedly delivers on a daily basis. And Trump, the liar-in-chief, is echoing the GOP sentiment that Obamacare is going to implode. If it does, the Republicans own it. They have all the power to fix it, not the Democrats. And once again, a single-payer plan is likely the only viable option they may have.Obama is no longer president and the PPACA is still in place and stands strong in the face of a government dominated entirely by Republicans.... Despite lies and promises by the Republicans to repeal and replace, THE PPACA is holding its own because people like it; and, more importantly, they need it. I expect Obamacare to morph into single-payer. That's the thing that is needed and that's the only thing that's going to work. But in either case, Obama's legacy will live on.Where did you see me post I thought Job creation was Obama's biggest accomplishment? His biggest accomplishment was the PPACA. Getting facts straight sure isn't one of your big accomplishments.
Now that i have shown how flawed your reasoning is, let's move on to your next. groundless grievance. We've never had a recession of the magnitude that Obama faced when he came into office except the Great Depression. Obama withstood a test equaled only by the civil war and the Great Depression., I'm glad he was President instead of trump when that happened. No one cares about your trivial recovery statistics. All we care about is that economy recovered, people got jobs and the economy is thriving again... not because of trump but because of Obama.
So Obama's biggest accomplishment was the Affordable Care Act? Here's the big problem with that narrative, JQ...the ACA was set up to fail and sold to the American people by lying to them about what it would do and what it would cost. If THAT is Barry's biggest accomplishment...then it says volumes about how bad of a President he really was.
The Affordable Care Act is "standing strong"? It's actually imploding, JQ and needs to be completely overhauled. Of course Obamacare is going to "morph" into single payer...it's what Obama, Pelosi and Reid planned all along! Let's be honest here...you're giving Barack Obama "credit" for lying to the American people. That will be his legacy when the ACA is examined by historians. He's the President who couldn't get single payer passed but instead set up a healthcare system so flawed...one that gave so much free stuff away to so many people...that it was political suicide to do away with it.
Obama told numerous lies about legislation that affects 1/6th of our economy and repeated those lies over and over again.
So let me see if I understand how this works in "JQ World"? You liberals set up a healthcare system that's designed to fail...pushing it through even though the American people let you know through their votes that they weren't in favor of it...and now that it IS failing...it belongs to the Republicans? How do you figure that? You expect the GOP to "fix" the ACA...when the truth is...it can't be fixed. Its was designed by you liberals to fail. You designed it...you passed it...you lied about it...NOW YOU OWN IT!!!
The recession ended by June 2009.
Thanks for showing how fast Obama got things done.
No one cares but you pseudo- conservatives.Weakest recovery since WW2.
The recession ended on Obama's watch so he gets the credit ... The democrats were smart enough to listen to the FEDs when SOT Paulson and FED Bernanke stormed the capitol asking for a near trillion dollar bank bailout. But contrary to the claim the recession actually ended in 2009...there are other economist pundits who, as late as 2015, contended that it was still going on well into that year.The recession ended by June 2009.
Thanks for showing how fast Obama got things done.
No one cares but you pseudo- conservatives.Weakest recovery since WW2.
No problem, I'm happy to show he didn't end the recession.
Happy to show he did fuck up the recovery.
Well I'm German and I can only speak as an outsiderHa! With Trump we're losing our leadership and influence. Are you kidding?Obama was pathetic. America lost all of its leadership and influence under Obama. Look at Syria and his inaction there. And he got the Nobel prize within weeks of becoming president. What a joke. That's not to say Trump will do better. Time will tell.
