Unemployment Soarimg!!!!!!!!!!

[Neubarth]

Unemployment Soaring

The advance number of actual initial claims under state programs, unadjusted, totaled 503,973 in the week ending Oct. 10, an increase of 51,919 from the previous week

 

[theHawk]

Nothing to see here...move along.

The Dow is nearing 10k! Jon & Kate are fighting!

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

i remember somebody saying that the stock market didn't matter. Who was that?

 

[Neubarth]

LIE AFTER LIE FROM OBAMA ABOUT UNEMPLOYMENT! WE NEED TO REMOVE HIM FROM OFFICE


BELOW ARE THE SECOND HALF OF THE NEWS RELEASES AT THE DOL SITE. NOTE THAT THEY ALL SHOW THE HORRIFIC INCREASE IN UNEMPLOYMENT.

The advance number of actual initial claims under state programs, unadjusted, totaled 503,973 in the week ending Oct. 10, an increase of 51,919 from the previous week

The advance number of actual initial claims under state programs, unadjusted, totaled 449,375 in the week ending Oct. 3, an increase of 3,757 from the previous week.

The advance number of actual initial claims under state programs, unadjusted, totaled 443,694 in the week ending Sept. 26, an increase of 5,878 from the previous week.

The advance number of actual initial claims under state programs, unadjusted, totaled 434,358 in the week ending Sept. 19, an increase of 21,966 from the previous week.

YET, HERE IS THE DAMN NEWS RELEASE FROM THE DOL! DAMN THOSE LYING SONS OF BITCHES TO HELL WHERE THEY BELONG.

WASHINGTON (AP) -- The number of newly laid-off U.S. workers filing claims for unemployment insurance has fallen to the lowest level since early January, a sign the labor market is slowly improving. And consumer price pressures remained mild in September as Americans slowly regain their appetite to shop amid a fledgling economic recovery.

The Labor Department said Thursday that first-time claims for jobless benefits dropped to a seasonally-adjusted 514,000 from an upwardly revised 524,000 the previous week. The fifth decline in six weeks was below Wall Street economists' forecasts of 525,000, according to Thomson Reuters.

LIE AFTER LIE AFTER LIE AFTER LIE FROM THE DAMNED OBAMA ADMINISTRATION.

HERE ARE THE NEWS RELEASES THAT HIT THE HEADLINES THE PAST FEW WEEKS.

http://www.dol.gov/opa/media/press/eta/main.htm

In the week ending Oct. 10, the advance figure for seasonally adjusted initial claims was 514,000, a decrease of 10,000 from the previous week's revised figure of 524,000.

In the week ending Oct. 3, the advance figure for seasonally adjusted initial claims was 521,000, a decrease of 33,000 from the previous week's revised figure of 554,000.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

And as the economy crumbles... CA seeks to ban big screen TV's. What the hell is wrong with these people?

Obama and the Dems are TOAST in '10. Toast I say!

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Obama and the Dems are TRYING to damage the economy so 10% unemployment is about half way there.

 

[Maple]

And as the economy crumbles... CA seeks to ban big screen TV's. What the hell is wrong with these people?

Obama and the Dems are TOAST in '10. Toast I say!

Good riddens!! That no stimulus stimulus bill where they had more money going to the arts and entertainment industry than they did small business which employs over 70% of Americans is sure workin out, isn't it??

Hows that hopey changey stuff workin out for ya???
52% of our youth, 16-20 out of work and unemployed and can't find a job, because there are no jobs to be found.

" If you are going through hell, keep going." Winston Churchill.

 

[Neubarth]

When people see the weekly news releases and then compare them to the actual numbers that show that all the news releases have been damned lies, they wake up. We have a government that lies in those news releases. The lies are so bountiful that they exceed the lies of the nazi german government.

 

[Toro]

We don't look at unadjusted numbers. We look at seasonally adjusted numbers.

New claims and continuing claims were both lower than last week, though still high.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

The Stimulus isn't working....we need more Stimulus!

 

[Elutherian]

I'm one of those 10% (actually it's 20%, but that's only if you include those who gave up looking). It don't suprise me one bit.

Wall Street gets richer and the Democrats are praising Obama... what's up with that? I thought you guys were supposed to care about the poor!

 

[Neubarth]

I'm one of those 10% (actually it's 20%, but that's only if you include those who gave up looking). It don't suprise me one bit.

Wall Street gets richer and the Democrats are praising Obama... what's up with that? I thought you guys were supposed to care about the poor!

"WASHINGTON (AP) -- The number of newly laid-off U.S. workers filing claims for unemployment insurance has fallen to the lowest level since early January, a sign the labor market is slowly improving. And consumer price pressures remained mild in September as Americans slowly regain their appetite to shop amid a fledgling economic recovery.

The Labor Department said Thursday that first-time claims for jobless benefits dropped to a seasonally-adjusted 514,000 from an upwardly revised 524,000 the previous week. The fifth decline in six weeks was below Wall Street economists' forecasts of 525,000, according to Thomson Reuters."


Do you know see that a brazen lie this alteration is as it was copied by Reuters?

People believe this crappola! They are putting their savings into the stock market since they believe the Obama lies. They are going to lose their money all over again when the next fall hits.

Obama wants you to believe we are in recovery, but there is no recovery. The falling Retail Sales and Durable Goods numbers prove that. The increasing unemployment numbers only add to the problem in a Service Sector economy. People do not spend and that leads to more people being laid off. A year ago I told you that we would be caught up in that spin cycle. Now that it is here, we are witnessing the collapse of our once great country.

 

[Neubarth]

We don't look at unadjusted numbers. We look at seasonally adjusted numbers.

New claims and continuing claims were both lower than last week, though still high.

Toro, it is not so much the actual numbers but the direction of the data.

With the manipulation the corrupt Obama administration keeps on claiming that Unemployment Insurance claims are going down (five of the last six weeks.)


That of course is an outright lie. The direction is showing that UI claims are increasing, but the public and the investors are deluded into thinking that things are getting better. They are getting worse by the minute.

 

[Toro]

Continuing claims, new claims, and nonfarm payrolls are falling at a slower rate. NFPs were -600k several months ago. Now it is -270k. The second derivative has turned positive. That always happens at the bottom.

Unemployment always lags these data sets because when the economy starts getting better, those who stopped looking for work re-enter the workforce, which bumps up the rate of unemployment.

 

[pinqy]

LIE AFTER LIE FROM OBAMA ABOUT UNEMPLOYMENT! WE NEED TO REMOVE HIM FROM OFFICE


BELOW ARE THE SECOND HALF OF THE NEWS RELEASES AT THE DOL SITE. NOTE THAT THEY ALL SHOW THE HORRIFIC INCREASE IN UNEMPLOYMENT.

Please show exactly what Obama has to do with this release. For example when he or anyone in the Whitehouse received the unadjusted figures and when/how he/they decided to change them.

And again, this is THE VERY SAME NEWS RELEASE you claim is a lie.

YET, HERE IS THE DAMN NEWS RELEASE FROM THE DOL! DAMN THOSE LYING SONS OF BITCHES TO HELL WHERE THEY BELONG.

IT'S THE SAME DAMNED NEWS RELEASE

LIE AFTER LIE AFTER LIE AFTER LIE FROM THE DAMNED OBAMA ADMINISTRATION.

Where is the lie? The release clearly shows NSA and SA data. The SA data is more important and reliable for lookingat trends. NSA is too subject to distortion. I looked at the last ten years and with 2 exceptions, UI claims always rise this time of year. That's like the tide coming in...you can't rely on it to see what the real water level is.

If you're going to claim lies, show lies, not standard statistical practice and a report that contains both sets of numbers.

And how many times do I have to tell you that Initial UI claims is NOT a measure of Unemployment?

Oh, and if the report is a lie, why does it show that NSA continuing claims dropped -97,500 from Sept 28-Oct 3 while the SA numbers (which you claim are a lie and are manipulated to make things look better) only change -75,000.

 

[Neubarth]

LIE AFTER LIE FROM OBAMA ABOUT UNEMPLOYMENT! WE NEED TO REMOVE HIM FROM OFFICE


BELOW ARE THE SECOND HALF OF THE NEWS RELEASES AT THE DOL SITE. NOTE THAT THEY ALL SHOW THE HORRIFIC INCREASE IN UNEMPLOYMENT.

Please show exactly what Obama has to do with this release. For example when he or anyone in the Whitehouse received the unadjusted figures and when/how he/they decided to change them.

And again, this is THE VERY SAME NEWS RELEASE you claim is a lie.

YET, HERE IS THE DAMN NEWS RELEASE FROM THE DOL! DAMN THOSE LYING SONS OF BITCHES TO HELL WHERE THEY BELONG.

IT'S THE SAME DAMNED NEWS RELEASE

LIE AFTER LIE AFTER LIE AFTER LIE FROM THE DAMNED OBAMA ADMINISTRATION.

Where is the lie? The release clearly shows NSA and SA data. The SA data is more important and reliable for lookingat trends. NSA is too subject to distortion. I looked at the last ten years and with 2 exceptions, UI claims always rise this time of year. That's like the tide coming in...you can't rely on it to see what the real water level is.

If you're going to claim lies, show lies, not standard statistical practice and a report that contains both sets of numbers.

And how many times do I have to tell you that Initial UI claims is NOT a measure of Unemployment?

Oh, and if the report is a lie, why does it show that NSA continuing claims dropped -97,500 from Sept 28-Oct 3 while the SA numbers (which you claim are a lie and are manipulated to make things look better) only change -75,000.

You know, you damned stinking ass that the news releases leave out the actual numbers as reported to the DOL. To get that you have to go to the DOL site or find a news site that has done that for you. Most of them do not. Hence, most of the people in the US believe the insane lies.

I have had enough of your insane nonsense and am placing you on ignore as the moderator suggested I do. You are just a troll who is here to annoy people

 

[pinqy]

You know, you damned lying ass that the news releases leave out the actual numbers as reported to the DOL.

And how is that the DOL lying, then?

To get that you have to go to the DOL site or find a news site that has done that for you. Most of them do not. Hence, most of the people in the US believe the insane lies.[/qutoe]And yet you continue to ignore my invitation to point out any actual lies. Why is that? It shouldn't be hard if you're telling the truth.

I have had enough of your insane lies and am placing you on ignore as the moderator suggested I do. You are just a troll who is here to annoy people with all of your lies.

Perhaps you'd like to share why the moderator contacted you? I'm betting not.

 

[Neubarth]

Continuing claims, new claims, and nonfarm payrolls are falling at a slower rate. NFPs were -600k several months ago. Now it is -270k. The second derivative has turned positive. That always happens at the bottom.

Those numbers are totally bogus, just like all the other numbers bandied about by the DOL and the Corrupt Fed Gov.

Just to give you an example, look at these totally amusing numbers from last year and try to figure out what is wrong, if, indeed, the FED GOV is actually using Seasonal Adjustments.

Dec. 27 08, the advance figure for seasonally adjusted initial claims was 492,000 unadjusted, 718,468

Dec. 20 08, the advance figure for seasonally adjusted initial claims was 586,000, unadjusted, 715,496

Dec. 13, 08 the advance figure for seasonally adjusted initial claims was 554,000, unadjusted, 626,943

Dec. 6, 08 the advance figure for seasonally adjusted initial claims was 573,000, unadjusted, 757,481

Nov. 29, 08 the advance figure for seasonally adjusted initial claims was 509,000, unadjusted, 529,941

Nov. 22, 08 the advance figure for seasonally adjusted initial claims was 529,000, unadjusted, 606,877

Nov. 15, 08 the advance figure for seasonally adjusted initial claims was 542,000, unadjusted, 511,941

Nov. 8, 08 the advance figure for seasonally adjusted initial claims was 516,000, unadjusted, 539,868

Nov. 1, 08 the advance figure for seasonally adjusted initial claims was 481,000, unadjusted, 463,932



It should be very easy to see.

 

[Toro]

Continuing claims, new claims, and nonfarm payrolls are falling at a slower rate. NFPs were -600k several months ago. Now it is -270k. The second derivative has turned positive. That always happens at the bottom.

Those numbers are totally bogus, just like all the other numbers bandied about by the DOL and the Corrupt Fed Gov.

Just to give you an example, look at these totally amusing numbers from last year and try to figure out what is wrong, if, indeed, the FED GOV is actually using Seasonal Adjustments.

Dec. 27 08, the advance figure for seasonally adjusted initial claims was 492,000 unadjusted, 718,468

Dec. 20 08, the advance figure for seasonally adjusted initial claims was 586,000, unadjusted, 715,496

Dec. 13, 08 the advance figure for seasonally adjusted initial claims was 554,000, unadjusted, 626,943

Dec. 6, 08 the advance figure for seasonally adjusted initial claims was 573,000, unadjusted, 757,481

Nov. 29, 08 the advance figure for seasonally adjusted initial claims was 509,000, unadjusted, 529,941

Nov. 22, 08 the advance figure for seasonally adjusted initial claims was 529,000, unadjusted, 606,877

Nov. 15, 08 the advance figure for seasonally adjusted initial claims was 542,000, unadjusted, 511,941

Nov. 8, 08 the advance figure for seasonally adjusted initial claims was 516,000, unadjusted, 539,868

Nov. 1, 08 the advance figure for seasonally adjusted initial claims was 481,000, unadjusted, 463,932



It should be very easy to see.

Neubarth

What is your background in statistics and econometrics? Just curious.

 

[elvis]

Continuing claims, new claims, and nonfarm payrolls are falling at a slower rate. NFPs were -600k several months ago. Now it is -270k. The second derivative has turned positive. That always happens at the bottom.

Those numbers are totally bogus, just like all the other numbers bandied about by the DOL and the Corrupt Fed Gov.

Just to give you an example, look at these totally amusing numbers from last year and try to figure out what is wrong, if, indeed, the FED GOV is actually using Seasonal Adjustments.

Dec. 27 08, the advance figure for seasonally adjusted initial claims was 492,000 unadjusted, 718,468

Dec. 20 08, the advance figure for seasonally adjusted initial claims was 586,000, unadjusted, 715,496

Dec. 13, 08 the advance figure for seasonally adjusted initial claims was 554,000, unadjusted, 626,943

Dec. 6, 08 the advance figure for seasonally adjusted initial claims was 573,000, unadjusted, 757,481

Nov. 29, 08 the advance figure for seasonally adjusted initial claims was 509,000, unadjusted, 529,941

Nov. 22, 08 the advance figure for seasonally adjusted initial claims was 529,000, unadjusted, 606,877

Nov. 15, 08 the advance figure for seasonally adjusted initial claims was 542,000, unadjusted, 511,941

Nov. 8, 08 the advance figure for seasonally adjusted initial claims was 516,000, unadjusted, 539,868

Nov. 1, 08 the advance figure for seasonally adjusted initial claims was 481,000, unadjusted, 463,932



It should be very easy to see.

Neubarth

What is your background in statistics and econometrics? Just curious.

Is he preaching the Weimar inflation again?