UN IPCC scientists 52 Scientists Who Disagree over 1,000

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    "They're all paid off by BIGOIL! They should all be arrested!"

    Right, USMB AGW cultists?
     
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    But, but, but .. . . what about the consennnnsus?

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    Thread's been here just under 14 hours.

    I guess the cultists haven't received their marching orders yet.
     
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    Maybe they're double top secret marching orders. :eusa_shhh:
     
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    fromShredding the “climate consensus” myth: More Than 1000 International Scientists Dissent Over Man-Made Global Warming Claims – Challenge UN IPCC & Gore | Watts Up With That?
     
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    It's great to see these sorts of summaries of positions of other scientists. However, I do wish they had been more vocal long before Climategate. Some were, but not as many as should have been. I suppose now - post-Climategate - it's OK to talk about the 800 lb. gorilla.
     
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    I think that back in the 80s and 90s scientists were expecting the data to support the idea of AGW, and the funding made available was a boon to both climate science and affiliated fields. Once it became more obvious that the smoking gun was not there in the 00s, the media and the politicized leadership of many scientific organizations made it difficult to get any attention for skeptical views. Even recently the skeptical papers receive much more difficulty in passing 'peer review', and often are ignored in the media while the rebuttal is publicized. While climategate has slowed this train it certainly hasnt stopped yet.
     
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    Good points. The media - prompted by Patient Zero, Gore - certainly had a lot to do with biased representation of the state of the science. Unfortunately, the field of climate science's boon is pretty soiled with this. In fact, it was only when Climategate hit that scientists in unrelated fields started an uproar about all of the sciences being soiled by this.

    Don't get me wrong, I understand how one can fear for funding and publication success, but sometimes the gorilla is so obvious that one needs to be a scientist first. It gets to a point where being an unfunded scientist with integrity is preferable.

    Anyway, I am pleased that the train has slowed. I agree; it does need to slow more, though.
     
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    I agree with you Si. I think it made a big difference when that retired physicist stood up against global warming alarmism but more importantly exposed the political underpinning of the mission statement given out by the Physical Society. This is something that Old Rocks just doesnt get. Rank and file members don't get a say in what the politically motivated leadership says publicly. And not only in fields connected to climate science.
     

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