Moorelloyd
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the last american newspaper?
trump has already said he was lying.
time to give it up.
Of course Obama lied; he made a statement = he lied
Dont you have a car to go chase, Shillian?
the last american newspaper?
trump has already said he was lying.
time to give it up.
The REAL war on Women, but most idiot women here in the USA will vote for Hilalry because she has a vagina, even though she is aiding Islamic radicals to kill more women.
It's ok
Papa Obama and Kerry are working with Iranian Moderates
I heard you are a liar and a jack ass.I heard it was $400 billion.
they like living that way.
It's ok
Papa Obama and Kerry are working with Iranian Moderates
Obama has been funding terrorists for a long time.
They get the Dropsies?...from dropping dead?Yep. People who piss off Hillary end up dead alot.
Invading an embassy is an act of war, dufus.The money rightfully belongs to the Iran government of 1977, dufus.
Um...no, sorry, you clearly don't understand international trade law. All debts and obligations incurred by the Shah's government transferred to the Islamic Republic. Just like they have to honor any treaties the Shah signed...
Not to sling mud... but!The old-fashioned name for this error is post hoc sed non propter hoc (after this but not because of this) Your average Trumpet is far too dumb and disinterested to grasp the significance of the following facts, all of which have been public knowledge for months:
The funds frozen by the US in an arms deal that goes back to the days of the Shah are required to be released under the terms of the nuclear disarmament treaty with Iran
Iran threatened to take the issue to the World Court of Justice where, given the ruling would almost certainly be in their favor and would require repayment of the frozen funds plus over 40 years of accumulated interest made releasing the funds the best option. The amount required after losing the case in the WCJ would be in the billions of dollars.
The USA still has no bank relations with Iran, making payment by check or wire transfer impossible. Hence the payment in currency.
The negotiation over the release of the Americans imprisoned in Iran (they were not hostages but convicted criminals, from Iran's point of view) was conducted entirely independently of the negotiation over frozen funds by completely different teams of negotiators and neither side linked the two issues as the written record and the testimony of the US negotiators confirm.
Hillary Clinton has been out of office since these negotiations were begun and has had nothing to do with them.
What we have here is a conspiracy theory born of paranoia and a desperate need to find some mud to fling at the Democrats, i.e. the conservative Republican folie du jour.
Joe. You would take any deal with a terrorist nation.Ummm ... Negotiating With Terrorists? $400 Million to Iran
funny how Democrats still think the Iran deal
is good
I think that if you look at the facts, it's the best deal we can get.
1) That 400 Million rightfully belongs to Iran. it was part of 1.7 BILLION the Iranian Government paid to the US for weapons in 1979 that were never delivered. simple thing. You either provide services and goods paid for or you return the money. It shouldn't have taken 40 years to work this out.
2) Five other countries were involved in that Iran deal. Five countries that want to do business in Iran and frankly think our sanctions are stupid. So if our options were the sanctions falling apart or rolling back the sanctions in exchange for some concessions from the Iranians, it is actually a good deal.
But since the Israelis control our politics, you'll tell yourself this is a bad deal because news organizations with a lot of people named "-Stein" and "-Berg" tell you it is.
Yeah, that the hostages were released at the exact same time that the money arrived is just coincidence.The old-fashioned name for this error is post hoc sed non propter hoc (after this but not because of this) Your average Trumpet is far too dumb and disinterested to grasp the significance of the following facts, all of which have been public knowledge for months:
The funds frozen by the US in an arms deal that goes back to the days of the Shah are required to be released under the terms of the nuclear disarmament treaty with Iran
Which makes him a traitor, does it not?Joe. You would take any deal with a terrorist nation.
You would also disarm citizens of this country.