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Nah, I'm gonna say that despite a small and potentially violent criminal element in it, short bursts of mob mentality or rioting that occur, etc. I trust my fellow American citizens much more than I trust the government.
Once martial law is declared, there is not a thing stopping a well-armed, well-trained military who have already intentionally and systematically had much of their critical thinking and human compassion trained out of them from killing any and all persons at their discretion.
With no police or military, the civilian population is more likely to band together in at least groups akin to neighborhood watch to look out for their collective self-interest and safety. Bad things would surely happen in such a situation, but they'd be more contained and limited than if we have tanks rolling through America's streets.
Nah, I'm gonna say that despite a small and potentially violent criminal element in it, short bursts of mob mentality or rioting that occur, etc. I trust my fellow American citizens much more than I trust the government.
Once martial law is declared, there is not a thing stopping a well-armed, well-trained military who have already intentionally and systematically had much of their critical thinking and human compassion trained out of them from killing any and all persons at their discretion.
With no police or military, the civilian population is more likely to band together in at least groups akin to neighborhood watch to look out for their collective self-interest and safety. Bad things would surely happen in such a situation, but they'd be more contained and limited than if we have tanks rolling through America's streets.
The fact that having US troops stationed on and intended for use against the US population is COMPLETELY ILLEGAL and in direct violation of the 1878 Posse Commitus Act should be enough for everyone, even those who don't fear their government at all, to oppose it.
With the military used in situations of "civil unrest and crowd control" there is nothing to stop any president from becoming fully tyrannical, declaring that the American people who want him out are involved in insurrection, and becoming a full-blown military dictator. Sure, that is a worst case scenario, but this establishes that precedent and makes it possible, even planned for.
Deregulation is a policy of the right. The left generally calls for greater regulation of the financial sector.
If you're parroting the absurd notion that a few low-income people defaulting on home loans caused a massive recession, then take an actual look at the progression of our financial situation and how wholly insignificant and minor that is.
Otherwise, explain yourself.
You are a fucking retard. Excessive spending on Domestic problems is by far the worst problem that and the fact the Democrats caused the melt donw of our banking industry.
Another dumbshit. American troops have not been trained not to think or feel or turned into killing machines. But you dumb fucks can not fathom that at all.
RGS will be along anytime now to use shoddy grammar, while ironically calling you a retard for thinking for yourself.
I went through the ten week Marine Corps Officer Candidate Course in Quantico. I didn't say they were trained not to think or feel or were turned into killing machines and I wasn't speaking from anything but experience. Your hyperbolic restatement of what I wrote is an inaccurate misrepresentation. If you are truly a RetiredGySgt, then you do recognize that a chief role of basic and the early stages of military service is to "intentionally and systematically ...train out soldiers'... critical thinking and human compassion"
The mission of every US soldier is to follow orders. Because they are intended for use in war and war is chaos, they are taught to suppress critical thinking and compassion and ACT IN THE MOMENT. Just follow the order. In most human beings, there is a natural, innate or taught, hesitancy to take human life. For the military to be effective in its deployment, this is trained out of recruits.
That doesn't mean they then become kill crazy terminators or anything of the sort. I was still a fully capable and rational person who did not want to murder people when I decided not to sign. My father is a 21+ year vet who also is far from a "killing machine" despite the fact that he did take part in lethal engagements. My point is that in your average citizen, even in a state of chaos, there is a strong instinct and disincentive to kill your fellow citizen. In military personnel who function on snap command, this is considerably less so. This makes them more dangerous.
You also ignore the fact that there are MANY, MANY more people in this country who in the event of lawlessness would want and forge their own collective means of protection and safety than those who would want to use the opportunity to riot, rape, pillage, etc. We're a country of 300 million people, you think we're all crazy? Either you live in a different country than I do or you have am excessively grim view of humanity.
Add that to the fact that a government maintaining power via deployment of the military against its own people is antithetical to everything America and is by definition a MILITARY DICTATORSHIP, a TYRANNY. If you're willing to accept that form of government, you have no respect for your own liberty.
As for the financial crisis and depression caused by deregulation that allowed massive speculation that inflates profits on money that does not actually exist and outright fraud, not a few thousand defaulted home loans, the answer is complex and time-consuming and deserves more time than I have on Christmas Eve. I'll be back within the next few days to offer a thorough and well-sourced explanation of how the home loan argument is a vain and flimsy attempt to push this crisis of corporate greed on the favorite whipping boy of the unfettered capitalism proponents --poor minorities --when it is in fact very clearly the fault of their speculation and unethical disregard for the impact their actions would have on the rest of the country.
Once martial law is declared, there is not a thing stopping a well-armed, well-trained military who have already intentionally and systematically had much of their critical thinking and human compassion trained out of them from killing any and all persons at their discretion.
Ya cause you did not write this right?
Once martial law is declared, there is not a thing stopping a well-armed, well-trained military who have already intentionally and systematically had much of their critical thinking and human compassion trained out of them from killing any and all persons at their discretion.
American troops have... been trained not to think or feel or turned into killing machines.
Our military is reminded yearly that they have to obey LAWFUL orders and that if they chose to obey unlawful orders the defense " I was just following orders" won't work. But ya they are brainwashed indeed.
Our troops in the current wars are well aware if they obey illegal or improper orders THEY will be charged and tried for not doing the legally correct thing. Your claim that the American military will just blindly follow orders is moronic and incorrect.
so lemme see, we have the right blaming the left, the left blaming the right, a faction that just won't accept our governance has contingency plans to come down on it's populance, even though it's documented in plain day, and another faction that maintains it'll rise up against a governance that violates them, then the most prevalant faction that believes they're part of the home team no matter what here....
dunno 'bout you folks, but that really seems to fit the term anarchy to me, at least in as far as political stripe goes
just add bad times, bake for a year or so, and i'd say those fema camps will be full of us blaming each other for being there....
Yup you dumb shits are beyond help. Lets let the Country drop into Anarchy while the military sits idly by cause you see conspiracy every where.
IF the Government acts without cause the military will split. The American people will rise up and oppose the Government and all those guns we own will come in handy.
Some of the military will follow the Government and some won't. Assuming the action is uncalled for. The military are not blind and stupid and they are made up of loyal American citizens.
But you go on thinking our Military are a bunch of mercenaries trained to just blindly follow orders.
Yup you dumb shits are beyond help. Lets let the Country drop into Anarchy while the military sits idly by cause you see conspiracy every where.
IF the Government acts without cause the military will split. The American people will rise up and oppose the Government and all those guns we own will come in handy.
Some of the military will follow the Government and some won't. Assuming the action is uncalled for. The military are not blind and stupid and they are made up of loyal American citizens.
But you go on thinking our Military are a bunch of mercenaries trained to just blindly follow orders.
Yup. As long as we can keep in-fighting, we won't notice our "democracy" is turning into an open military dictatorship.
IF the Government acts without cause the military will split. The American people will rise up and oppose the Government and all those guns we own will come in handy.
Yup you dumb shits are beyond help. Lets let the Country drop into Anarchy while the military sits idly by cause you see conspiracy every where.
IF the Government acts without cause the military will split. The American people will rise up and oppose the Government and all those guns we own will come in handy.
Some of the military will follow the Government and some won't. Assuming the action is uncalled for. The military are not blind and stupid and they are made up of loyal American citizens.
But you go on thinking our Military are a bunch of mercenaries trained to just blindly follow orders.
