U.S. Military Preparing for Domestic Disturbances

[dilloduck]

Sounds like prudent planning to me.

Agreed--Plans are a good thing. If people go apeshit I would hope there is a plan to deal with it. We have plans to replace Presidents who die in office--doesn't mean there's an assasination plot afoot.

 

[BlackAsCoal]

Question: President Obama, is there any truth to the plans to arrest and detain millions of Americans by use of the REX 84 program which has evolved under new Bush rules on Martial Law .. and do you plan to rescind those rules .... and just to wrap up Mr. President, do you plan to close the School of the America's, or whatever the fuck it is being called now, which has trained many of the world's terrorists in "urban tactics" and unleashed them on places like Latin America like the plague?

 

[eots]

agreed--plans Are A Good Thing. If People Go Apeshit I Would Hope There Is A Plan To Deal With It. We Have Plans To Replace Presidents Who Die In Office--doesn't Mean There's An Assasination Plot Afoot.

Even If That Person Is You

 

[dilloduck]

Question: President Obama, is there any truth to the plans to arrest and detain millions of Americans by use of the REX 84 program which has evolved under new Bush rules on Martial Law .. and do you plan to rescind those rules .... and just to wrap up Mr. President, do you plan to close the School of the America's, or whatever the fuck it is being called now, which has trained many of the world's terrorists in "urban tactics" and unleashed them on places like Latin America like the plague?

answer " Sorry-but the answer to that question is above my pay grade and you will be taken into custody by men in black for asking it "

 

[BlackAsCoal]

answer " Sorry-but the answer to that question is above my pay grade and you will be taken into custody by men in black for asking it "

Sad but true.

To your point about plans are good .. I agree .. but is it not equally wise to know what your government plans to do with you?

"You" could be anybody, no matter what political affiliation, faith, rank, or color "you" may be.

 

[editec]

Martial law generally beats full blown anarchy, folks.

Obviousl,y I'm not a big fan of the police state we have now. From my standpoint our police are as much a parsite that's bleeding this nation dry, as they are out there serving and protecting.

But I can certainly see conditions devolving as local civil authority breaks down, too.

And in that case even marital law is better than jungle law.

FYI, the Maine State Police have officially withdrawn from patrolling my country leaving it up to already strapped county and local cops to patrol and respond to events.

Yeah...it's that bad, and folks... nothing I'm reading indicates it is going to get better anytime soon, either.

Now imagine what happens when the LA police force (or at other urban locale) has to do the same thing?

It can happen here, folks.

Some of you have been longing for this moment for years, right?

I mean isn't that why you're all been stocking up on guns and ammo?

 

[dilloduck]

Martial law generally beats full blown anarchy, folks.

Obviousl,y I'm not a big fan of the police state we have now. From my standpoint our police are as much a parsite that's bleeding this nation dry, as they are out there serving and protecting.

But I can certainly see conditions devolving as local civil authority breaks down, too.

And in that case even marital law is better than jungle law.

FYI, the Maine State Police have officially withdrawn from patrolling my country leaving it up to already strapped county and local cops to patrol and respond to events.

Yeah...it's that bad, and folks... nothing I'm reading indicates it is going to get better anytime soon, either.

Now imagine what happens when the LA police force (or at other urban locale) has to do the same thing?

It can happen here, folks.

Some of you have been longing for this moment for years, right?

I mean isn't that why you're all been stocking up on guns and ammo?

Agreed---just a little honest imagination oughtr to put people in touch with what anarchy in the US would look like and how well you would fare in it.

As for our governments plans for it's citizens ? I don't think it's competent enough to carry it out. Good or bad.

 

[sparky]

Some of you have been longing for this moment for years, right?

actually warning people it's a possibility...

I mean isn't that why you're all been stocking up on guns and ammo?

~S~

 

[eots]

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QUOTE=editec;958125]Martial law generally beats full blown anarchy, folks.

Obviousl,y I'm not a big fan of the police state we have now. From my standpoint our police are as much a parsite that's bleeding this nation dry, as they are out there serving and protecting.

But I can certainly see conditions devolving as local civil authority breaks down, too.

And in that case even marital law is better than jungle law.

FYI, the Maine State Police have officially withdrawn from patrolling my country leaving it up to already strapped county and local cops to patrol and respond to events.

Yeah...it's that bad, and folks... nothing I'm reading indicates it is going to get better anytime soon, either.

you mean just like socialism is better than letting company's go bankrupt spoken like a true sheeple....

 

[Paulie]

What kind of "civil unrest" will come about that our police officers who are paid to do that kind of work can't handle?

Seriously. Why the military?

 

[QUENTIN]

Martial law generally beats full blown anarchy, folks.

Obviousl,y I'm not a big fan of the police state we have now. From my standpoint our police are as much a parsite that's bleeding this nation dry, as they are out there serving and protecting.

But I can certainly see conditions devolving as local civil authority breaks down, too.

And in that case even marital law is better than jungle law.

FYI, the Maine State Police have officially withdrawn from patrolling my country leaving it up to already strapped county and local cops to patrol and respond to events.

Yeah...it's that bad, and folks... nothing I'm reading indicates it is going to get better anytime soon, either.

Now imagine what happens when the LA police force (or at other urban locale) has to do the same thing?

It can happen here, folks.

Some of you have been longing for this moment for years, right?

I mean isn't that why you're all been stocking up on guns and ammo?

Nah, I'm gonna say that despite a small and potentially violent criminal element in it, short bursts of mob mentality or rioting that occur, etc. I trust my fellow American citizens much more than I trust the government.

Once martial law is declared, there is not a thing stopping a well-armed, well-trained military who have already intentionally and systematically had much of their critical thinking and human compassion trained out of them from killing any and all persons at their discretion.

With no police or military, the civilian population is more likely to band together in at least groups akin to neighborhood watch to look out for their collective self-interest and safety. Bad things would surely happen in such a situation, but they'd be more contained and limited than if we have tanks rolling through America's streets.

The fact that having US troops stationed on and intended for use against the US population is COMPLETELY ILLEGAL and in direct violation of the 1878 Posse Commitus Act should be enough for everyone, even those who don't fear their government at all, to oppose it.

With the military used in situations of "civil unrest and crowd control" there is nothing to stop any president from becoming fully tyrannical, declaring that the American people who want him out are involved in insurrection, and becoming a full-blown military dictator. Sure, that is a worst case scenario, but this establishes that precedent and makes it possible, even planned for.

 

[Modbert]

Agreed---just a little honest imagination oughtr to put people in touch with what anarchy in the US would look like and how well you would fare in it.

As for our governments plans for it's citizens ? I don't think it's competent enough to carry it out. Good or bad.

Anarchy or Facism, pick which you'd like.

Me? I'm gonna go with Anarchy.

 

[PubliusInfinitum]

The one and only cause of the economic crisis is greed & just plain stupidity by the financial sector.

ROFLMNAO...

Leftist policy is 100% responsible for the meltdown... PERIOD... end of story.

 

[Modbert]

ROFLMNAO...

Leftist policy is 100% responsible for the meltdown... PERIOD... end of story.

And you're batshit crazy...PERIOD..end of story.

 

[QUENTIN]

ROFLMNAO...

Leftist policy is 100% responsible for the meltdown... PERIOD... end of story.

Deregulation is a policy of the right. The left generally calls for greater regulation of the financial sector.

If you're parroting the absurd notion that a few low-income people defaulting on home loans caused a massive recession, then take an actual look at the progression of our financial situation and how wholly insignificant and minor that is.

Otherwise, explain yourself.

 

[Modbert]

Deregulation is a policy of the right. The left generally calls for greater regulation of the financial sector.

If you're parroting the absurd notion that a few low-income people defaulting on home loans caused a massive recession, then take an actual look at the progression of our financial situation and how wholly insignificant and minor that is.

Otherwise, explain yourself.

I couldn't agree more with that. Deregulation is one of the major reasons of why we are where we are right now. Some people on here know nothing about the economy or economics but think they are right when they believe they can dismiss a logical economical explaination with the words "Partisan bullshit".

 

[Paulie]

Deregulation didn't entice a bunch of underfunded people to take home mortgages they had no business asking for. Dangerously low interest rates did.

Most people don't even know what reg/dereg is. But they certainly know what rock bottom interest rates are.

Regulating how consumers borrow only insulates them from having to take responsibility for themselves.

 

[PubliusInfinitum]

And you're batshit crazy...PERIOD..end of story.

ROFL … Am I now?


Well that entirely possible I suppose... but that will not change the fact that US LEFTISTS FORCED THE US MORTGAGE INDUSTRY, THROUGH THREAT OF PROSECUTION TO WRITE LOANS TO PEOPLE WHO WERE NOT ACTUARIALLY VIABLE.... WHAT'S MORE THE SAME LEFTISTS DECLARED THAT THE US GOVERNMENT WOULD UNDERWRITE THOSE LOANS AND IT IS THE DEFAULT OF THOSE LOANS WHICH, ALONG WITH EGREGEOUS LEFTIST REGULATION AND COLLECTIVE BARGAINING ABUSES WHICH IS AT THE ROOT AND STINKS UP EVERY LEVEL OF THIS FINANCIAL METLDOWN...

Now if you disagree then all you need to do is to present an intellectually sound argument which would show where NON-LEFTIST POLICY IS THE CAUSE OF THE MELTDOWN...

(Now friends we will not find that this imbecile is capable of providing ANYTHING APPROACHIGN A VIABLE ARGUMENT WHICH CAN SHOW NON-LEFTIST POLICY ANYWHERE NEAR THE CAUSE OF THIS FINANCIAL MELTDOWN... That is a mathematical certainty...)

 

[QUENTIN]

Some people on here know nothing ... but think they are right when they believe they can dismiss a logical economical explaination with the words "Partisan bullshit".

Yeah, I've noticed in my brief time here that's a pretty consistent and popular M.O.

 

[PubliusInfinitum]

Deregulation is a policy of the right. The left generally calls for greater regulation of the financial sector.

If you're parroting the absurd notion that a few low-income people defaulting on home loans caused a massive recession, then take an actual look at the progression of our financial situation and how wholly insignificant and minor that is.

Otherwise, explain yourself.

I didn't say anything about 'a few' bad loans... I'm talking about MILLIONS OF BAD LOANS... and the LEFTIST POLICY WHICH STATED THAT THE US FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WOULD UNDERWRITE THE CERTAIN LOSSES THAT THE FAILED LEFTIST POLICY WAS CERTAIN TO PRODUCE AND THE INABILITY OF THE FEDERAL GOVERMENT TO COVER THOSE TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF LOSSES...

You can cry about the 'progression' of the current situation all day sis and that will not chaneg that THE ROOT... THE CAUSE OF THE PROBLEM WAS LEFTISTS MANIPULATING THE PRIVATE SECTOR TO SECURE LOANS FOR THOSE ACTUARIALLY INCAPABLE OF SERVICING THOSE LOANS...