U.S attacks al-Shabab

You've got to wonder what prompted this. I'll wait to see the whole story before making a judgment.

You mean you need to know what Obama is for before you decide what you are against?
No, idiot. I already know what Obama is for.
I am just wondering what the official justification for this act of war is. And then what the real reason for this act of war is.
Didnt you guys criticize Bush for engaging in acts of war without sufficient justification?
At least Bush had Congressional approval.

You mean after he LIED to Congress about the evidence?
Dimwits said hussein had WMD's before Bush was elected. So are you calling dimwits liars to? you would finally be telling the truth.

Major difference is the Democrats prior to Bush didn't go to war over them.

Once you'd decided to commit thousands of American lives to getting rid of those WMD's, you'd better be damned sure that they are there.

INstead, Bush and Cheney ignored evidence that Saddam might not have them and didn't even let the UN finish it's job. They wanted a war and they got a war.
Yep, republicans had a spine , dimwits are spineless. Problem is Hussein did have WMDs, he used them. Fail again.
 
Yep, republicans had a spine , dimwits are spineless. Problem is Hussein did have WMDs, he used them. Fail again.

Yes, he did. But when he had them the US didn't invade. When he didn't have them, they did. The US is the only country to have used full blown nukes in war. So...... who should invade the US now then?
 
My FIRST thought was, "Wag the Dog."

But the dynamics are far different than when Bill Clinton was the tail wagger.

Oh it's wag the dog :lol:. Headlines are breaking big that Libya has now devolved into full blown anarchy. So much for the "Arab Spring".
The different militias are fighting for who will control the oil fields.

Thank the failure of American foreign policy from 2001 on.
 
Thank the failure of American foreign policy from 2001 on.

US foreign policy has generally been failing since the beginning of the Cold War, the Cold War was just abject failure after failure. Though it depends how you want to see failure, the way I see it, it was a failure, and a lot of it has led up to the problems today.
 
Yep, republicans had a spine , dimwits are spineless. Problem is Hussein did have WMDs, he used them. Fail again.

Yes, he did. But when he had them the US didn't invade. When he didn't have them, they did. The US is the only country to have used full blown nukes in war. So...... who should invade the US now then?
Of course he had chem/bio weapons- Reagan helped his pal Saddam with them and didn't mind him using them against Kurds and Iranians. What he didn't have was anything like nukes that Pubs fear mongered about. Great job, covert/chickenhawk lying Pubs and hater dupes.

Also,great job wrecking the world economy, making jihad a great career choice. Now watch the adults try to fix your messes, and cut the mindless bs.
 
We're everywhere bombing & killing. It's not the solution. A humble balanced Non-Interventionist Foreign Policy is the logical way forward. Time to end this endless war.
 
Remember Americans, you do reap what you sow. The more people your Government kills, the more other people around the world will want to kill you. Keep that in mind before rushing into more War.
 
We're everywhere bombing & killing. It's not the solution. A humble balanced Non-Interventionist Foreign Policy is the logical way forward. Time to end this endless war.

How can you adopt that position after knowing almost anything about World History of the 20th Century?

Long story short, the peoples, nations, governments of the free world which could have stopped Hitler before he killed any Jews failed to act because they were like you.

No fault for wanting to avoid the prodigious cost of blood, lives and treasure that war demands.

However, adopting your philosophy guarantees war and a bigger one than if we'd not been isolationist.
 
Remember Americans, you do reap what you sow. The more people your Government kills, the more other people around the world will want to kill you. Keep that in mind before rushing into more War.

There are always pros and cons to be considered with any and every foreign policy course of action or guiding philosophy.

But, you must realize, we've never had a foe with a Terminator M.O. before.

You know,

Kyle Reese: Listen, and understand. That terminator is out there. It can't be bargained with. It can't be reasoned with. It doesn't feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And it absolutely will not stop, ever, until you are dead.


The Terminator 1984 - Quotes - IMDb
 
Yep, republicans had a spine , dimwits are spineless. Problem is Hussein did have WMDs, he used them. Fail again.

Yes, he did. But when he had them the US didn't invade. When he didn't have them, they did. The US is the only country to have used full blown nukes in war. So...... who should invade the US now then?
Of course he had chem/bio weapons- Reagan helped his pal Saddam with them and didn't mind him using them against Kurds and Iranians. What he didn't have was anything like nukes that Pubs fear mongered about. Great job, covert/chickenhawk lying Pubs and hater dupes.

Also,great job wrecking the world economy, making jihad a great career choice. Now watch the adults try to fix your messes, and cut the mindless bs.
Idiot. Like you idiot libtards know how to fix anything. Obamashitforbraains has yet to fix anything.
 
Of course he had chem/bio weapons- Reagan helped his pal Saddam with them and didn't mind him using them against Kurds and Iranians. What he didn't have was anything like nukes that Pubs fear mongered about. Great job, covert/chickenhawk lying Pubs and hater dupes.

Also,great job wrecking the world economy, making jihad a great career choice. Now watch the adults try to fix your messes, and cut the mindless bs.


Er.... He had them when he used them. Why did he not use them against the US? Maybe because he didn't have any by then?

As for wrecking the world economy and making jihad a career choice, do you think I'm right wing or something?
 
We're everywhere bombing & killing. It's not the solution. A humble balanced Non-Interventionist Foreign Policy is the logical way forward. Time to end this endless war.

How can you adopt that position after knowing almost anything about World History of the 20th Century?

Long story short, the peoples, nations, governments of the free world which could have stopped Hitler before he killed any Jews failed to act because they were like you.

No fault for wanting to avoid the prodigious cost of blood, lives and treasure that war demands.

However, adopting your philosophy guarantees war and a bigger one than if we'd not been isolationist.

Time to come home. We've meddled & killed enough around the world. We've made enough enemies. This Permanent State of War has to come to an end.
 
We're everywhere bombing & killing. It's not the solution. A humble balanced Non-Interventionist Foreign Policy is the logical way forward. Time to end this endless war.

How can you adopt that position after knowing almost anything about World History of the 20th Century?

Long story short, the peoples, nations, governments of the free world which could have stopped Hitler before he killed any Jews failed to act because they were like you.

No fault for wanting to avoid the prodigious cost of blood, lives and treasure that war demands.

However, adopting your philosophy guarantees war and a bigger one than if we'd not been isolationist.

Time to come home. We've meddled & killed enough around the world. We've made enough enemies. This Permanent State of War has to come to an end.

Pal, if you don't like it that we're getting slapped around and our interests are being damaged in the process, just think of what will happen if we aren't even there to protect our own interests?

You'd leave our futures up to the mercies of whom?

The Chinese?

The Russians?

Or the Muslim Brotherhood and ISIS and the world's Jihadists?

We can't adopt isolationism in this day and age.
 
Of course he had chem/bio weapons- Reagan helped his pal Saddam with them and didn't mind him using them against Kurds and Iranians. What he didn't have was anything like nukes that Pubs fear mongered about. Great job, covert/chickenhawk lying Pubs and hater dupes.

Also,great job wrecking the world economy, making jihad a great career choice. Now watch the adults try to fix your messes, and cut the mindless bs.


Er.... He had them when he used them. Why did he not use them against the US? Maybe because he didn't have any by then?

As for wrecking the world economy and making jihad a career choice, do you think I'm right wing or something?

He confessed he bluffed about having them.

Google: George Piro FBI Saddam's interrogator CBS 60 Minutes

You can read the transcript there or watch the video of Piro describing his talks with Saddam.
 
We're everywhere bombing & killing. It's not the solution. A humble balanced Non-Interventionist Foreign Policy is the logical way forward. Time to end this endless war.

How can you adopt that position after knowing almost anything about World History of the 20th Century?

Long story short, the peoples, nations, governments of the free world which could have stopped Hitler before he killed any Jews failed to act because they were like you.

No fault for wanting to avoid the prodigious cost of blood, lives and treasure that war demands.

However, adopting your philosophy guarantees war and a bigger one than if we'd not been isolationist.

Time to come home. We've meddled & killed enough around the world. We've made enough enemies. This Permanent State of War has to come to an end.

Pal, if you don't like it that we're getting slapped around and our interests are being damaged in the process, just think of what will happen if we aren't even there to protect our own interests?

You'd leave our futures up to the mercies of whom?

The Chinese?

The Russians?

Or the Muslim Brotherhood and ISIS and the world's Jihadists?

We can't adopt isolationism in this day and age.

Here's the solution:

Abolish Homeland Security, the Patriot Act, NDAA, NSA, and IRS. Then move to a humble balanced Non-Interventionist Foreign Policy, while securing our Border.

That's the only way we'll ever achieve true peace, sovereignty, prosperity, and freedom.
 
We're everywhere bombing & killing. It's not the solution. A humble balanced Non-Interventionist Foreign Policy is the logical way forward. Time to end this endless war.

How can you adopt that position after knowing almost anything about World History of the 20th Century?

Long story short, the peoples, nations, governments of the free world which could have stopped Hitler before he killed any Jews failed to act because they were like you.

No fault for wanting to avoid the prodigious cost of blood, lives and treasure that war demands.

However, adopting your philosophy guarantees war and a bigger one than if we'd not been isolationist.

Time to come home. We've meddled & killed enough around the world. We've made enough enemies. This Permanent State of War has to come to an end.

Pal, if you don't like it that we're getting slapped around and our interests are being damaged in the process, just think of what will happen if we aren't even there to protect our own interests?

You'd leave our futures up to the mercies of whom?

The Chinese?

The Russians?

Or the Muslim Brotherhood and ISIS and the world's Jihadists?

We can't adopt isolationism in this day and age.

Here's the solution:

Abolish Homeland Security, the Patriot Act, NDAA, NSA, and IRS. Then move to a humble balanced Non-Interventionist Foreign Policy, while securing our Border.

That's the only way we'll ever achieve true peace, sovereignty, prosperity, and freedom.

Well, when it's all boiled down these are the two options left.

Violence or Peace.

But what if our defenselessness resulted in greater intrigue in the world and greater assaults and challenges to our interests around the world?

What if global tensions escalated due to adventurism by some 'would-be' despots, while other adversarial nation's leaders got bolder???

Imagine the USA being forced, for the sake of humanity, to step in militarily in a global, maybe WMD effort.

All of this because our isolationist military stance prevented our stepping in to nip some situations in the bud before they escalated.
 
He confessed he bluffed about having them.

Google: George Piro FBI Saddam's interrogator CBS 60 Minutes

You can read the transcript there or watch the video of Piro describing his talks with Saddam.

makes sense, and I've not heard of this before, which shows just how much some wanted it kept under.
 
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Major difference is the Democrats prior to Bush didn't go to war over them.

Once you'd decided to commit thousands of American lives to getting rid of those WMD's, you'd better be damned sure that they are there.

INstead, Bush and Cheney ignored evidence that Saddam might not have them and didn't even let the UN finish it's job. They wanted a war and they got a war.
Yep, republicans had a spine , dimwits are spineless. Problem is Hussein did have WMDs, he used them. Fail again.

He had them in 1988. When Ronald Reagan thought he was our bestest pal and denied he had gassed the Kurds.

In 1991, the ones that weren't destroyed in the war, were quickly destroyed by UN inspectors.

Also- key point. He had chemical weapons, the cutting edge weapon of 1914.

No Americans were going to war over a few cannisters of expired mustard gas.

Bush told us he had nukes and he was about to give them to Al Qaeda. He didn't.
 

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