Turns out, Republicans were speaking the truth

[MelissaD]

India is terrorist. Pakistan will take out India.

Hindus pray to cows. I eat their god.

At least one good thing came out of the recent flood in Pakistan: everyone got a bath.

 

[mdn2000]

So you people have a problem with our military kicking the shit out of a murderous dictator bent on ruling the world. Seems noble to me, almost seems like something good that we can use our military for.

So the deal is to take out all the murderous dictators in the world? Or just the easy one with oil? Because China should be next under your argument, then Myanmar, North Korea, the US (OOPS!)...

No, under my argument;

Afghanistan, Taliban, Bin Laden, weak, besides Iran

Iraq, no allies will come to Iraq's defense, Saddam bad, easy

Syria, with no Iraq doubtful Iran will intervene.

Iran, troop now on all sides, easy kill

Saudi Arabia and all the rest, demand change or else.

Middle East solved.

Than the countries you mention.

 

[editec]

Truly effective propaganda seldom needs to completely lie.

Much more effective is a very careful selection of facts, denial of others and a lot of media slight of hand to keep us distracted from the real stories.

Keep the people focused on things that don't matter (political theories that are goofy, homosexuality, racism, crime, outrageous news stories that mean essentially nothing, etc.) while the things that do matter (mostly economic or geopolitical policies) are either not mentioned or downplayed, or the truth of them is so distorted though the aforementioned methodology that one can never be sure if its truth or sleight of hand mean to mislead you.

The truth will set you free, which is EXACTLY why it's in such short supply and so terribly difficult to recognize when you see it.

 

[code1211]

Same reason the people who voted for Obama refuse to acknowledge his lies.

Which lies are those?

One example:

"The worst economy since the Great Depression"
"We didn't know how bad the economy was."

Which is truth and which is lie?

When he said that it was the worst economy since the great depression, that indicates that he thought that it was worse than anything ever experienced in 70 years and yet, after he failed to correct conditions in what he claimed to be efforts to help, he said he previously thought that things weren't so bad.

Which is truth and which is lie?

 

[code1211]

Great video, thanks.

Lying bastiges.

I love that movie.

 

[code1211]

Truly effective propaganda seldom needs to completely lie.

Much more effective is a very careful selection of facts, denial of others and a lot of media slight of hand to keep us distracted from the real stories.

Keep the people focused on things that don't matter (political theories that are goofy, homosexuality, racism, crime, outrageous news stories that mean essentially nothing, etc.) while the things that do matter (mostly economic or geopolitical policies) are either not mentioned or downplayed, or the truth of them is so distorted though the aforementioned methodology that one can never be sure if its truth or sleight of hand mean to mislead you.

The truth will set you free, which is EXACTLY why it's in such short supply and so terribly difficult to recognize when you see it.

Watch for this same ol' crap in the deficit debate upcoming.

Those who are serious will be saying that the deficit needs to come down and that if we are to collect $x then we need to spend $x-y.

Those who immediately ask what are you going to cut are not serious.

Those that say this is what we will cut and it's up to us to figure out how are serious.

This is no different than sitting around the kitchen table and deciding on what we won't spend after the income drops.

We had been edging up to this point for years. The Big 0 just shortcut the process. We're here. The well is dry or the Golden Goose is dead. Whatever analogy you like. The party's over. It's time to pay the piper.

There is no longer the debate on how to pay for the expansion. The debate is now how to pay for the past extravagance. The first step is to dial it back a notch in all areas.

A good first step would be use 2008 as the starting point and cut back from there. Sunset every government program that is non essential and make every re-authorization face the process faced by the "Bush Tax Cuts". Make appropriation bills individual and not bundled so the deals that sweep billions into million dollar programs just go away.

We are not collecting too little. We are spending too much.

 

[Two Thumbs]

Same reason the people who voted for Obama refuse to acknowledge his lies.

Which lies are those?

If you like your health insurance you can keep your health insurance.

If we pass the stimulus unemployment will not go above 8%.

He's going to close gitmo
Try colick shake mohamad
Pay as you go
get rid of lobbyist and special intrest
Not raise taxes on those makeing under 250k

 

[rdean]

So you people have a problem with our military kicking the shit out of a murderous dictator bent on ruling the world. Seems noble to me, almost seems like something good that we can use our military for.

Democrat Quotes on WMD

"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line."
--President Bill Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998

"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."
--President Bill Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998

"Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face."
--Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998

"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983."
--Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998

"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs."
Letter to President Clinton, signed by:
-- Democratic Senators Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others, Oct. 9, 1998

"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
-Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998

"Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies."
-- Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999

"There is no doubt that ... Saddam Hussein has reinvigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies."
Letter to President Bush, Signed by:
-- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), and others, Dec 5, 2001

"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandate of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and th! e means of delivering them."
-- Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002

"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country."
-- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power."
-- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction."
-- Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002

"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..."
-- Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002

"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force -- if necessary -- to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."
-- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002

"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years ... We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction."
-- Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002

"He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do"
-- Rep. Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002

"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members ... It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."
-- Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002

"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction."
-- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002

"Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real..."
-- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003

Why do you guys keep bringing up those quotes? Words aren't the same as invasion. AND every quote after 2001 was based on intel from the Bush White House, which we now know was a lie. Who would think the Republican President would lie to the American People. Now we know.

200 million dollars a day. The cost of Obama's visit to India. And the right wing STILL believes it.

 

[Sallow]

Same tired old lies, dredged up once again. Shall I REMIND you RETARDS that 3 separate Congressional Investigations were mounted and not a single one came back saying Bush or Cheney lied? One was even sponsored and lead by Democrats that had stated BEFORE the investigation that they would prove it once and for all.

Amazing isn't it?

The lengths that our own government will go to protect it's "right" to make war?

Even in the face of the most damning evidence.

Bold faced lies.

 

[Sallow]

Which lies are those?

If you like your health insurance you can keep your health insurance.

If we pass the stimulus unemployment will not go above 8%.

He's going to close gitmo
Try colick shake mohamad
Pay as you go
get rid of lobbyist and special intrest
Not raise taxes on those makeing under 250k

You've got one in here which probably counts. Gitmo. That should have been closed.

The others have been blocked by his opposition.

 

[Missourian]

If you like your health insurance you can keep your health insurance.

If we pass the stimulus unemployment will not go above 8%.

He's going to close gitmo
Try colick shake mohamad
Pay as you go
get rid of lobbyist and special intrest
Not raise taxes on those makeing under 250k

You've got one in here which probably counts. Gitmo. That should have been closed.

The others have been blocked by his opposition.

Rendition.
Executive signing statements.
Patriot act.
Warrantless wiretaps / FISA.

Amazing how all that outrage evaporates like magic when the President has a (D) after his name.

 

[marksinvirginia]

Obama to the ignorant masses: 'I'll not raise your taxes one single dime. I'll just drive down the value of your homes; punish private enterprise to drive up your unemployment; triple the national debt and print money to devalue your dollars.'

 

[Sallow]

Same tired old lies, dredged up once again. Shall I REMIND you RETARDS that 3 separate Congressional Investigations were mounted and not a single one came back saying Bush or Cheney lied? One was even sponsored and lead by Democrats that had stated BEFORE the investigation that they would prove it once and for all.

That's what happens when you put spineless idiots and party loyalists in the same commission.

An echo chamber.

Any independent investigation would find that many violations of the United States Constitution and international laws were committed.

Heck..Hussien's trial was basically a kangaroo court.

 

[marksinvirginia]

Same tired old lies, dredged up once again. Shall I REMIND you RETARDS that 3 separate Congressional Investigations were mounted and not a single one came back saying Bush or Cheney lied? One was even sponsored and lead by Democrats that had stated BEFORE the investigation that they would prove it once and for all.

That's what happens when you put spineless idiots and party loyalists in the same commission.

An echo chamber.

Any independent investigation would find that many violations of the United States Constitution and international laws were committed.

Heck..Hussien's trial was basically a kangaroo court.

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