Turns Out Obamacare Premiums Aren't More Expensive After All

[billyerock1991]

the bolded ... wtf, is that obama-speak?

Are you so daft that you don't know there are a multitude of plans differing in cost, co-pays, deductibles, etc. and some plans require you to pay out of pocket for doc visits, meds, etc. until you meet your deductible?

Never mind, we all know the answer to that one.

He is indeed that stupid.

Whatever HE says HIS experience is is what EVERYBODY'S experience is.

You have to admit, though ... it is impressive that he is flexible enough to have his foot in his mouth and his head up his ass at the same time!

and you always have your head in your ass a sucking your dick from the inside ...

 

[billyerock1991]

All I know is my monthly premium doubled and where the fuck is my $2500.00 dollars that lying negro said I would save?

he never said you would save 250 dollars and you never apply through the ACA site ... thats very clear... that's what happens to stupid people like you...

 

[S.J.]

the bolded ... wtf, is that obama-speak?

Are you so daft that you don't know there are a multitude of plans differing in cost, co-pays, deductibles, etc. and some plans require you to pay out of pocket for doc visits, meds, etc. until you meet your deductible?

Never mind, we all know the answer to that one.

He is indeed that stupid.

Whatever HE says HIS experience is is what EVERYBODY'S experience is.

you being a paid poster, nobody in their right mine takes you serious ... you only try to stop whats is right ... thats your job, dumb fuck !!!!

Billy, did you graduate high school?

 

[MeBelle]

He is indeed that stupid.

Whatever HE says HIS experience is is what EVERYBODY'S experience is.

you being a paid poster, nobody in their right mine takes you serious ... you only try to stop whats is right ... thats your job, dumb fuck !!!!

Billy, did you graduate high school?

When I have some time on my hands I'm going to search how many times billye laid the 'paid poster' claim.

You know what they say about liars, right?

 

[jon_berzerk]

it doesn't not say you have to pay for doctor visits

from your web site, I posted what you paid for ... a office visit as I said ...
you pay 40 dollars for the visit

you don't have to pay for your 1200 or 6000 dollar deductible first to get a office visit

Bronze Plan
$40 no deductible. office visit
$80 no deductible specialist

rignt from your site .... it clearly says for a office visit you pay 40 dollars
for a specialist you pay 80 dollars
here's your site ..where I went to see what did they pay for
like I said stop your lying...

Bronze Individual and Family Health Plans | Independence Blue Cross

the bolded ... wtf, is that obama-speak?

Are you so daft that you don't know there are a multitude of plans differing in cost, co-pays, deductibles, etc. and some plans require you to pay out of pocket for doc visits, meds, etc. until you meet your deductible?

Never mind, we all know the answer to that one.

looks like you got your head in your ass again yes I understand there are all kinds of different plans ...what they all have in common and I've said this before .... the fact that you're a dumb fuck says it all ...you don't pay attention Zoom Ding-a-ling

jon_berzerk. pull a plan off his web site ..not me... he said see you have to pay your deductible first ... I said you didn't...he argued the issue as if he had a clue ... so I went to his web site it gave all the information about deductibles ... what he did do is look at the whole plan... he found one section then said to himself oh I've got him now then he posted it with a web site attached ... the problem jon_berzerk had was he didn't do any research ... he stop at that one page ... where he got his information ... the problem he didn't address was right in the plan that jon_berzerk picked, not me...on one of the list it said office visit ... so I clicked on it ... what it said, and you can go there too and ook for yourself where you need to stop being such a dumb fuck ... it said all you pay for a office visit was 40 dollars for that plan that jon_berzerk picked not me ... so Zoom Ding-a-ling bull your head out of your ass

jon_berzerk. pull a plan off his web site ..not me.


i pulled several plans off the website

each clearly indicating that the deductible

needs to be met before the plan pays towards medical services


he said see you have to pay your deductible first

deductibles work as a pay as you go

o I went to his web site it gave all the information about deductibles

no you didnt you presented a link to one specific provider

the rest of your post is rambling nonsense

 

[billyerock1991]

you being a paid poster, nobody in their right mine takes you serious ... you only try to stop whats is right ... thats your job, dumb fuck !!!!

Billy, did you graduate high school?

When I have some time on my hands I'm going to search how many times billye laid the 'paid poster' claim.

You know what they say about liars, right?

every time I see antares post ... he's a paid poster ...I don't take a word he has to say with any kind of worth ... as I don't take anything you have to say or the other moron Sj with any kind of value ... when I see liars like you two I point out their lies ... all the little nasty remarks that you make, dumb fuck, I can make nasty remarks too ... the difference I can do it better ...SJ did you make pasted the 6th grade ??? that would be pushing it

 

[Stephanie]

all these experts on OScamcare

Maybe some premiums aren't high, but what did happen is your out of pocket deductibles went sky high before your wonderful OscamCare kicks in

someone here said his went from $500 to $5000....isn't Obambam just grand

and it only cost 1.5 TRILLION dollars to set up another Government AGENCY we needed like we needed a hole in our heads

 

[billyerock1991]

the bolded ... wtf, is that obama-speak?

Are you so daft that you don't know there are a multitude of plans differing in cost, co-pays, deductibles, etc. and some plans require you to pay out of pocket for doc visits, meds, etc. until you meet your deductible?

Never mind, we all know the answer to that one.

looks like you got your head in your ass again yes I understand there are all kinds of different plans ...what they all have in common and I've said this before .... the fact that you're a dumb fuck says it all ...you don't pay attention Zoom Ding-a-ling

jon_berzerk. pull a plan off his web site ..not me... he said see you have to pay your deductible first ... I said you didn't...he argued the issue as if he had a clue ... so I went to his web site it gave all the information about deductibles ... what he did do is look at the whole plan... he found one section then said to himself oh I've got him now then he posted it with a web site attached ... the problem jon_berzerk had was he didn't do any research ... he stop at that one page ... where he got his information ... the problem he didn't address was right in the plan that jon_berzerk picked, not me...on one of the list it said office visit ... so I clicked on it ... what it said, and you can go there too and ook for yourself where you need to stop being such a dumb fuck ... it said all you pay for a office visit was 40 dollars for that plan that jon_berzerk picked not me ... so Zoom Ding-a-ling bull your head out of your ass

jon_berzerk. pull a plan off his web site ..not me.


i pulled several plans off the website

each clearly indicating that the deductible

needs to be met before the plan pays towards medical services
no it did not ... your own sources as I posed it for you to look at to see how wrong you were ...but you're too stupid to admit you're wrong ....a typical repub-lie-tard trait ... it said clearly if you went to the doctor for a visit you pay 40 dollars for the copay as I said and I posted where it was on the web site that you provided as your source ... it said you pay 40 copay, no deductible [paid


he said see you have to pay your deductible first

deductibles work as a pay as you go

o I went to his web site it gave all the information about deductibles

no you didnt you presented a link to one specific provider

the rest of your post is rambling nonsense

it was the provider that you posted you moron... you didn't follow through the whole coverage you posted parts of it that fit your needs here... you make these outrageous remarks post a source then turnaround then deny your own source

just fucking priceless

 

[Stephanie]

well, when you have 47% of the people in this country receiving some type of government (taxpayers) assistance you will get these types of thread on how wonderful obambamcare is

 

[S.J.]

Billy, did you graduate high school?

When I have some time on my hands I'm going to search how many times billye laid the 'paid poster' claim.

You know what they say about liars, right?

every time I see antares post ... he's a paid poster ...I don't take a word he has to say with any kind of worth ... as I don't take anything you have to say or the other moron Sj with any kind of value ... when I see liars like you two I point out their lies ... all the little nasty remarks that you make, dumb fuck, I can make nasty remarks too ... the difference I can do it better ...SJ did you make pasted the 6th grade ??? that would be pushing it

I think I just got my answer.

 

[jon_berzerk]

looks like you got your head in your ass again yes I understand there are all kinds of different plans ...what they all have in common and I've said this before .... the fact that you're a dumb fuck says it all ...you don't pay attention Zoom Ding-a-ling

jon_berzerk. pull a plan off his web site ..not me... he said see you have to pay your deductible first ... I said you didn't...he argued the issue as if he had a clue ... so I went to his web site it gave all the information about deductibles ... what he did do is look at the whole plan... he found one section then said to himself oh I've got him now then he posted it with a web site attached ... the problem jon_berzerk had was he didn't do any research ... he stop at that one page ... where he got his information ... the problem he didn't address was right in the plan that jon_berzerk picked, not me...on one of the list it said office visit ... so I clicked on it ... what it said, and you can go there too and ook for yourself where you need to stop being such a dumb fuck ... it said all you pay for a office visit was 40 dollars for that plan that jon_berzerk picked not me ... so Zoom Ding-a-ling bull your head out of your ass

jon_berzerk. pull a plan off his web site ..not me.


i pulled several plans off the website

each clearly indicating that the deductible

needs to be met before the plan pays towards medical services
no it did not ... your own sources as I posed it for you to look at to see how wrong you were ...but you're too stupid to admit you're wrong ....a typical repub-lie-tard trait ... it said clearly if you went to the doctor for a visit you pay 40 dollars for the copay as I said and I posted where it was on the web site that you provided as your source ... it said you pay 40 copay, no deductible [paid


he said see you have to pay your deductible first

deductibles work as a pay as you go

o I went to his web site it gave all the information about deductibles

no you didnt you presented a link to one specific provider

the rest of your post is rambling nonsense

it was the provider that you posted you moron... you didn't follow through the whole coverage you posted parts of it that fit your needs here... you make these outrageous remarks post a source then turnaround then deny your own source

just fucking priceless

now you are lying again

 

[Antares]

the bolded ... wtf, is that obama-speak?

Are you so daft that you don't know there are a multitude of plans differing in cost, co-pays, deductibles, etc. and some plans require you to pay out of pocket for doc visits, meds, etc. until you meet your deductible?

Never mind, we all know the answer to that one.

He is indeed that stupid.

Whatever HE says HIS experience is is what EVERYBODY'S experience is.

you being a paid poster, nobody in their right mine takes you serious ... you only try to stop whats is right ... thats your job, dumb fuck !!!!

The sad thing is that you have no idea how stupid you really are hillbilly.

 

[Zoom-boing]

it doesn't not say you have to pay for doctor visits

from your web site, I posted what you paid for ... a office visit as I said ...
you pay 40 dollars for the visit

you don't have to pay for your 1200 or 6000 dollar deductible first to get a office visit

Bronze Plan
$40 no deductible. office visit
$80 no deductible specialist

rignt from your site .... it clearly says for a office visit you pay 40 dollars
for a specialist you pay 80 dollars
here's your site ..where I went to see what did they pay for
like I said stop your lying...

Bronze Individual and Family Health Plans | Independence Blue Cross

the bolded ... wtf, is that obama-speak?

Are you so daft that you don't know there are a multitude of plans differing in cost, co-pays, deductibles, etc. and some plans require you to pay out of pocket for doc visits, meds, etc. until you meet your deductible?

Never mind, we all know the answer to that one.

looks like you got your head in your ass again yes I understand there are all kinds of different plans ...what they all have in common and I've said this before .... the fact that you're a dumb fuck says it all ...you don't pay attention Zoom Ding-a-ling

jon_berzerk. pull a plan off his web site ..not me... he said see you have to pay your deductible first ... I said you didn't...he argued the issue as if he had a clue ... so I went to his web site it gave all the information about deductibles ... what he did do is look at the whole plan... he found one section then said to himself oh I've got him now then he posted it with a web site attached ... the problem jon_berzerk had was he didn't do any research ... he stop at that one page ... where he got his information ... the problem he didn't address was right in the plan that jon_berzerk picked, not me...on one of the list it said office visit ... so I clicked on it ... what it said, and you can go there too and ook for yourself where you need to stop being such a dumb fuck ... it said all you pay for a office visit was 40 dollars for that plan that jon_berzerk picked not me ... so Zoom Ding-a-ling bull your head out of your ass

You said no plans have it so you have to pay out of pocket for docs visits/meds untiil you reach your deductible. I posted such a plan that DOES require you to pay out of pocket until you reach your deductible, including doc visits/meds, etc. You ignored it, you didn't even bother going to the link I posted! The retard is strong in you. Do I need to post it yet AGAIN for you bill-ye-fucking-retard????????

.for him to go to the doctor he has to pay his entire deductible first .... nobody pays their entire deductible first ...nobody !!!! they pay a copay, as I stated before you made a fucking fool of your self Zoom Ding-a-ling ... nobody has to pay their entire deductible first to get their med paid for ... they do pay a copay as I stated before you made a fucking fool of yourself Zoom Ding-a-ling... this is what the conversation is about ...try and keep up you fucking moron .

Primary Doctor: No Charge after Deductible
Specialist Doctor: No Charge after Deductible
Generic Prescription: No Charge after Deductible
ER Visit: No Charge after Deductible

https://www.healthcare.gov/find-pre...yerCoverage=no&householdSize=1&income=$35,000

GO TO THE FUCKING LINK, YA RETARD. READ. LEARN.

try and keep up you fucking moron

^ yes, bill-ye-rock-head, please do try and keep up


I see no point in arguing with you any further. You're doing a fine job of proving your complete ignorance on your own.

 

[Zoom-boing]

He is indeed that stupid.

Whatever HE says HIS experience is is what EVERYBODY'S experience is.

You have to admit, though ... it is impressive that he is flexible enough to have his foot in his mouth and his head up his ass at the same time!

and you always have your head in your ass a sucking your dick from the inside ...

That was lame, especially so since I'm not a guy.

Cripes, you can't even come up with good insults.

 

[Antares]

Hillbilly thinks that because he can type "paid poster" about someone it marginalizes that person, he thinks that that some how negates the ass kicking he gets.

Good or bad I get paid to sell the new plans, I see ho they affect people day to day, both good and bad.

The overwhelming reaction to them (the ACA plans) is negative despite hillbilly's denials.
Higher costs, Higher Deductibles, more out of pocket etc.

NOBODY cares about Pediatric Vision or Dental.

The subsidies and the cost sharing have been a very good thing for many people , those who did not qualify for them took it in the shorts and no, not all of them could afford the changes.

The companies are upside down claims wise, the risk corridors will mitigate some of the losses, but not enough of them.
The start up Companies like Co-Op are already back on the Hill asking for more money, this after pricing their plans too purposefully pricing their plans too low.

If you are cheerleading single payor you are seeing the game played perfectly to get it, if you are paying attention to the VA scandal why would you want it.

 

[Wry Catcher]

"In some cases" = success?

Mine is more expensive. Lair.

Why?

Why?

Well, you're a lair because you are an idiotic lost cause. Simple as that.

Go wax your Teslas, Cub Scout.

Personal attacks are not OK, they do not refute anyone's claim and offer evidence of one thing only: The attacker is too stupid/ignorant/mendacious and thus unable to offer anything of substance to refute another's claim.

 

[emilynghiem]

you have no Idea what you're talking about ... no where in any of the plans does it say you have to pay your deductible for a doctor visit .. no where!!! show us where it says you have to pay the deductible first for a doctor visit

I don't think that is the real issue anyway.

The REAL issue is that people are getting stuck with having to pay huge amounts
"out of pocket" BEFORE insurance will cover the rest.

Billy if you have to go nitpick at some "side argument" to have something to stand on,
that really looks desperate.

[To me, the whole issue of paying for this or that is AFTER the fact. The wrong has already been committed: of abusing govt to taking away people's civil liberties without "due process to prove" they committed any wrongful act or had wrongful intent in the first place.

I don't understand why are you "nitpicking" over whether people pay deductibles before or after receiving treatment.

My issue is why and how are people supposed to SUE AFTER THE FACT
to get rights and liberties back we never should have lost to begin with?

How can rights and freedoms be inalienable if you have to sue govt to get them back?]

As for these medical exchanges and payment plans,
NOTHING has shown me that these could not be set up by voluntary participation
through an optional system. I don't see anything here that requires govt to mandate.

Billy, do you realize that all these arguments would stop
if people had free choice which systems to patronize and which terms to sign up under?

It's called free will and consumer's choice.
Why can't we respect that, and not force any of these issues by imposing
business terms and contracts on people without consent?

 

[emilynghiem]

Why?

Why?

Well, you're a lair because you are an idiotic lost cause. Simple as that.

Go wax your Teslas, Cub Scout.

Personal attacks are not OK, they do not refute anyone's claim and offer evidence of one thing only: The attacker is too stupid/ignorant/mendacious and thus unable to offer anything of substance to refute another's claim.

What if people are venting? So let people vent, and try to get back to the topics and points.
Venting is part of people's grief and grievance process. Don't let it sidetrack you
or it just makes it worse!

 

[Antares]

you have no Idea what you're talking about ... no where in any of the plans does it say you have to pay your deductible for a doctor visit .. no where!!! show us where it says you have to pay the deductible first for a doctor visit

I don't think that is the real issue anyway.

The REAL issue is that people are getting stuck with having to pay huge amounts
"out of pocket" BEFORE insurance will cover the rest.

Billy if you have to go nitpick at some "side argument" to have something to stand on,
that really looks desperate.

[To me, the whole issue of paying for this or that is AFTER the fact. The wrong has already been committed: of abusing govt to taking away people's civil liberties without "due process to prove" they committed any wrongful act or had wrongful intent in the first place.

I don't understand why are you "nitpicking" over whether people pay deductibles before or after receiving treatment.

My issue is why and how are people supposed to SUE AFTER THE FACT
to get rights and liberties back we never should have lost to begin with?

How can rights and freedoms be inalienable if you have to sue govt to get them back?]

As for these medical exchanges and payment plans,
NOTHING has shown me that these could not be set up by voluntary participation
through an optional system. I don't see anything here that requires govt to mandate.

Billy, do you realize that all these arguments would stop
if people had free choice which systems to patronize and which terms to sign up under?

It's called free will and consumer's choice.
Why can't we respect that, and not force any of these issues by imposing
business terms and contracts on people without consent?

Billy's ego has been wrapped up in this from the first day he arrived here.

He can never be wrong and he can never accept a negative in conjunction with the ACA.

The moment he began arguing that the "mandate" was not a "mandate" because you could "choose" to pay the "tax" instead was a huge insight to his mind......and the limits there in.

He will go to ANY length to protect the Boi King and ANYTHING connected to him.

 

[jon_berzerk]

the bolded ... wtf, is that obama-speak?

Are you so daft that you don't know there are a multitude of plans differing in cost, co-pays, deductibles, etc. and some plans require you to pay out of pocket for doc visits, meds, etc. until you meet your deductible?

Never mind, we all know the answer to that one.

looks like you got your head in your ass again yes I understand there are all kinds of different plans ...what they all have in common and I've said this before .... the fact that you're a dumb fuck says it all ...you don't pay attention Zoom Ding-a-ling

jon_berzerk. pull a plan off his web site ..not me... he said see you have to pay your deductible first ... I said you didn't...he argued the issue as if he had a clue ... so I went to his web site it gave all the information about deductibles ... what he did do is look at the whole plan... he found one section then said to himself oh I've got him now then he posted it with a web site attached ... the problem jon_berzerk had was he didn't do any research ... he stop at that one page ... where he got his information ... the problem he didn't address was right in the plan that jon_berzerk picked, not me...on one of the list it said office visit ... so I clicked on it ... what it said, and you can go there too and ook for yourself where you need to stop being such a dumb fuck ... it said all you pay for a office visit was 40 dollars for that plan that jon_berzerk picked not me ... so Zoom Ding-a-ling bull your head out of your ass

You said no plans have it so you have to pay out of pocket for docs visits/meds untiil you reach your deductible. I posted such a plan that DOES require you to pay out of pocket until you reach your deductible, including doc visits/meds, etc. You ignored it, you didn't even bother going to the link I posted! The retard is strong in you. Do I need to post it yet AGAIN for you bill-ye-fucking-retard????????

.for him to go to the doctor he has to pay his entire deductible first .... nobody pays their entire deductible first ...nobody !!!! they pay a copay, as I stated before you made a fucking fool of your self Zoom Ding-a-ling ... nobody has to pay their entire deductible first to get their med paid for ... they do pay a copay as I stated before you made a fucking fool of yourself Zoom Ding-a-ling... this is what the conversation is about ...try and keep up you fucking moron .

Primary Doctor: No Charge after Deductible
Specialist Doctor: No Charge after Deductible
Generic Prescription: No Charge after Deductible
ER Visit: No Charge after Deductible

https://www.healthcare.gov/find-pre...yerCoverage=no&householdSize=1&income=$35,000

GO TO THE FUCKING LINK, YA RETARD. READ. LEARN.

try and keep up you fucking moron

^ yes, bill-ye-rock-head, please do try and keep up


I see no point in arguing with you any further. You're doing a fine job of proving your complete ignorance on your own.

--LOL

yeah and the plan he posted office visits do not apply to the deductible