Turkey will lost Bosporus, Dardanelles, Constantinople ( Istanbul ) and curds areas.

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Interesting how long dog Erdogan will have power in Turkey?
 
The revenge of Putin is unstoppable, Turkey shall be booted out from NATO, otherwise world will face nuclear WWIII:
Oh horse shit, economic sanctions will be the only action..

Russia will have Constantinople, Bosporus and Dardanelles, Curds, Greeks and Armenians will became their stolen areas back. Western sanctions can be approved by it, no problem.
 
Er.... you think Russia would dare take on a country like Turkey? I don't think so. Firstly, Russia has no immediate strategic reason to go to war with Turkey.
Turkey is part of NATO. If it comes to it, NATO will protect Turkey from any invasion.

Would Russia be willing to see what NATO is made of, or isn't made of?
At this time NATO would go to war to defend Turkey from a direct and overt Russian invasion.

That is not what Putin does, however. He uses proxies and stages Russian troops as local population rebels.

Putin does not want war with NATO because of how the US and the UK always hide their most important military innovations. They cannot tell what we have or what it can do and make their detailed Russian plans as they are so given to.
NATO is not dumb enough to be fooled by such machinations.
 
Er.... you think Russia would dare take on a country like Turkey? I don't think so. Firstly, Russia has no immediate strategic reason to go to war with Turkey.
Turkey is part of NATO. If it comes to it, NATO will protect Turkey from any invasion.

Which is why Turkey should be booted from NATO. America isn't willing to go to war for a bunch of corrupt Muslims. But squatters like you don't care. Democrats have become the party of warmongers.
Yeah. Right. Turkey is not "a bunch of corrupt Muslims." I've lived in Turkey. Spent 2 years working and living there among the Turks. You don't have a clue what the real Turkey is like.

The current govenment is not the favorite of the middle and upper class, of the educated people. Erdoğan will not be there forever. The good people of Turkey have been trying to get rid of him since he's been in office and will do so eventually.

Turkey is in general a good and democratic country, based on Atatürk's Reforms and legacy. Once they get rid of Erdoğan, they will go back to what Atatürk envisioned. Atatürk is damn near worshiped in Turkey, is considered the George Washington of Turkey, the founding father, essentially.

You don't understand Turkey at all. They are not at all fundamentalist Muslims and should definitely be protected by NATO and continue to be a member.
Erdogan is the future of Turkey along with Sharia Law and Islamazation.

Your 'good' people in Turkey are demographically evaporating and the Islamists will completely control Turkey in the future.
How many years have you lived in Turkey?

Your belief/assertion is totally and completely untrue. Poor, ignorant you.

The original vision of Ataturk is the future of modern day Turkey. You don't have a clue. Really, you don't.
 
Er.... you think Russia would dare take on a country like Turkey? I don't think so. Firstly, Russia has no immediate strategic reason to go to war with Turkey.
Turkey is part of NATO. If it comes to it, NATO will protect Turkey from any invasion.

LOL. No one of western NATO countries dare to a war with Russia due to Turkey's crazy imbecile ambitions.
Wrong. There's nothing imbecilic or ambitions about Turkey's military behavior and NATO will defend Turkey. You people know nothing whatsoever about this issue. Everything you think you know is based on watching American television. LMAO
 
Er.... you think Russia would dare take on a country like Turkey? I don't think so. Firstly, Russia has no immediate strategic reason to go to war with Turkey.
Turkey is part of NATO. If it comes to it, NATO will protect Turkey from any invasion.

LOL. No one of western NATO countries dare to a war with Russia due to Turkey's crazy imbecile ambitions.
Wrong. There's nothing imbecilic or ambitions about Turkey's military behavior and NATO will defend Turkey. You people know nothing whatsoever about this issue. Everything you think you know is based on watching American television. LMAO

So you support using US troops to "defend" Turkey while it is supporting ISIS?
 
Er.... you think Russia would dare take on a country like Turkey? I don't think so. Firstly, Russia has no immediate strategic reason to go to war with Turkey.
Turkey is part of NATO. If it comes to it, NATO will protect Turkey from any invasion.

Which is why Turkey should be booted from NATO. America isn't willing to go to war for a bunch of corrupt Muslims. But squatters like you don't care. Democrats have become the party of warmongers.
The GOP doesn't seem to be very peaceful either...
The Turkish are not 'corrupt Muslims.' How many terrorists have emerged from the Turkish culture? Few if any. The have to deal with the PKK, who are against the Turkish government and are not international terrorists.
 
Er.... you think Russia would dare take on a country like Turkey? I don't think so. Firstly, Russia has no immediate strategic reason to go to war with Turkey.
Turkey is part of NATO. If it comes to it, NATO will protect Turkey from any invasion.

LOL. No one of western NATO countries dare to a war with Russia due to Turkey's crazy imbecile ambitions.
Wrong. There's nothing imbecilic or ambitions about Turkey's military behavior and NATO will defend Turkey. You people know nothing whatsoever about this issue. Everything you think you know is based on watching American television. LMAO

So you support using US troops to "defend" Turkey while it is supporting ISIS?
Turkey is not supporting ISIS.
 
Er.... you think Russia would dare take on a country like Turkey? I don't think so. Firstly, Russia has no immediate strategic reason to go to war with Turkey.
Turkey is part of NATO. If it comes to it, NATO will protect Turkey from any invasion.

Which is why Turkey should be booted from NATO. America isn't willing to go to war for a bunch of corrupt Muslims. But squatters like you don't care. Democrats have become the party of warmongers.
The GOP doesn't seem to be very peaceful either...
The Turkish are not 'corrupt Muslims.' How many terrorists have emerged from the Turkish culture? Few if any. The have to deal with the PKK, who are against the Turkish government and are not international terrorists.

Then why are they aiding ISIS?
 
Er.... you think Russia would dare take on a country like Turkey? I don't think so. Firstly, Russia has no immediate strategic reason to go to war with Turkey.
Turkey is part of NATO. If it comes to it, NATO will protect Turkey from any invasion.

LOL. No one of western NATO countries dare to a war with Russia due to Turkey's crazy imbecile ambitions.
Wrong. There's nothing imbecilic or ambitions about Turkey's military behavior and NATO will defend Turkey. You people know nothing whatsoever about this issue. Everything you think you know is based on watching American television. LMAO

So you support using US troops to "defend" Turkey while it is supporting ISIS?
Turkey is not supporting ISIS.

Oh well that's comforting to know. Turkey, a majority Sunni country, isn't supporting the Sunni revolution that is sweeping the Middle East, because dopey liberals like Esmeralda say so.
 
English as a second (or third) language, O(riginal) P(oster)?

What's your primary language? Greek? Russian? Kurd?

Somebody wants a Do-Over for the Siege of Constantinople of 1453, methinks.

As well as the Crusades... or, more likely, the Battle of Manzikert.

A regular Strategos, eh?

Perhaps the Third Rome means to rescue the Second, eh?

" Varangians... Varangians, everywhere ! "

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Turkey is part of NATO. If it comes to it, NATO will protect Turkey from any invasion.

LOL. No one of western NATO countries dare to a war with Russia due to Turkey's crazy imbecile ambitions.
Wrong. There's nothing imbecilic or ambitions about Turkey's military behavior and NATO will defend Turkey. You people know nothing whatsoever about this issue. Everything you think you know is based on watching American television. LMAO

So you support using US troops to "defend" Turkey while it is supporting ISIS?
Turkey is not supporting ISIS.

Oh well that's comforting to know. Turkey, a majority Sunni country, isn't supporting the Sunni revolution that is sweeping the Middle East, because dopey liberals like Esmeralda say so.
It isn't a Sunni revolution. You people get your information from questionable sources. I have lived in 3 Sunni countries over the course of 8+ years. None of them support ISIS, quite the contrary. As well, Turkey is the least aggressive and least conservative of the 3 of them. The Turkish people do not support ISIS. The vast majority of the Muslims in the world do not support ISIS. You take a fragment of information and weave it into a blanket of 'knowledge' about the entire world of Islam: a blanket perspective that is completely incorrect.

For example, people like you assume that the Middle East represents Islam. In fact, the number of Muslims living in the ME is a small fraction of the 1.7 billion Muslims on Earth--a small fraction.
 
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Turkey is part of NATO. If it comes to it, NATO will protect Turkey from any invasion.

LOL. No one of western NATO countries dare to a war with Russia due to Turkey's crazy imbecile ambitions.
Wrong. There's nothing imbecilic or ambitions about Turkey's military behavior and NATO will defend Turkey. You people know nothing whatsoever about this issue. Everything you think you know is based on watching American television. LMAO

So you support using US troops to "defend" Turkey while it is supporting ISIS?
Turkey is not supporting ISIS.

Oh well that's comforting to know. Turkey, a majority Sunni country, isn't supporting the Sunni revolution that is sweeping the Middle East, because dopey liberals like Esmeralda say so.
A Sunni revolution, delivered by ISIS is not 'sweeping' the ME. Far from it. The vast majority of citizens of the ME do not support ISIS at all. They are considered crazy, even insane, terrorists who do not represent Islam.

ISIS is a group of terrorists and nothing more. They have successfully terrorized you, obviously. Poor fool.
 
Russia would never attack a country in NATO, they know the response would be automatic and they can't win.

Russia is in no way comparable to the old Soviet Union. Russia's yearly GDP is around 2.2 trillion dollars, the same size as California's GDP. Their military is moderate size and quite capable but they won't take on NATO. They MAY shoot down a Turkish plane with a missile, which would draw angry words but likely nothing more than that.

Turkey should have said something like 'we were defending our airspace but we'll work with Russia in the future to avoid such situations'. Turkey being outright belligerent isn't helping. But the arm flailing here as if WW3 is around the corner is just out there. There aren't any humans on Earth, other than Isis and their brain-damaged supporters, that want WW3. All participants would be reduced to radioactive deserts for thousands of years.
 
Russia would never attack a country in NATO, they know the response would be automatic and they can't win.

Russia is in no way comparable to the old Soviet Union. Russia's yearly GDP is around 2.2 trillion dollars, the same size as California's GDP. Their military is moderate size and quite capable but they won't take on NATO. They MAY shoot down a Turkish plane with a missile, which would draw angry words but likely nothing more than that.

Turkey should have said something like 'we were defending our airspace but we'll work with Russia in the future to avoid such situations'. Turkey being outright belligerent isn't helping. But the arm flailing here as if WW3 is around the corner is just out there. There aren't any humans on Earth, other than Isis and their brain-damaged supporters, that want WW3. All participants would be reduced to radioactive deserts for thousands of years.

The problem is the Turkey doesn't like Assad, and the Russians are supporting their neighboring enemy. Why would Turkey be nice to Russia?
 
Russia will not stand for Turkish interference in Armenia or Georgia. Armenia kicked Azerbaijan's ass in the Nagorno-Karabakh region and seized a chunk of Azeri territory under Turkey's nose. Russia has established a sphere of influence which in it will not tolerate foreign intervention.

Georgia has fought a war against Russia just a few years ago and is quite the NATO friendly nation, though the Turks dont like them. But the Turks will do nothing overt as long as it is part of NATO.

Armenia has a long history of hostility to Turkey and more recently a very deep hostility with Azerbaijan and fought a war with them over the last decade or two. Historically Armenia has been championed by Russia, but since the Azeris have lots and lots of oil, Russia has been focusing on friendly ties with the Azeris while still trying to prevent Armenia from falling into a pro-NATO orbit with Georgia.

The Russians have not had strong positive influence with these two nations since the break up of the Soviet Union.
 
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Interesting how long dog Erdogan will have power in Turkey?
Judging from the last election, he will have it for a very long time.

Erdogan says world must respect Turkish election result
A jubilant President Tayyip Erdogan on Monday cast the return of Turkey to single-party rule as a vote for stability that the world must respect, but opponents fear it heralds growing authoritarianism and deeper polarisation.

The AK Party, whose roots are in political Islam, defied pollsters and even the expectations of its own strategists in a general election on Sunday, consolidating support from the right to claw back a parliamentary majority that will bolster Erdogan's grip on power.

It was a personal triumph for the combative leader, who despite being constitutionally above party politics as head of state had shaped the AKP's executive committee and its parliamentary candidates in the run-up to the vote.

The result handed the AKP 317 of the 550 seats in parliament, only 13 short of the number Erdogan would need for a national referendum on constitutional changes he wants to forge a presidential system granting him full executive powers.
 

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