Turkey will lost Bosporus, Dardanelles, Constantinople ( Istanbul ) and curds areas.

[Baron]

Turkey will lost Bosporus, Dardanelles, Constantinople ( Istanbul ) and curds areas.

It will be Putin's revenge.The Church Hagia Sophia will be christian again.Putin's thinking is long-term, if Turkey believe , NATO will help it, that's wrong.Not now, but in few years you will see it.

Erdogan and his son are Turkey's morticians.Most of modern Turkey are former Greek, Armenian, Curds or other folks areas who were murdered by Mongols ( Turks ) in Name of Islam.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Er.... you think Russia would dare take on a country like Turkey? I don't think so. Firstly, Russia has no immediate strategic reason to go to war with Turkey.

 

[theHawk]

Turkey should definitely give the Kurds back their territory. We should not be involved with a country like Turkey.

 

[Meathead]

Er.... you think Russia would dare take on a country like Turkey? I don't think so. Firstly, Russia has no immediate strategic reason to go to war with Turkey.

Russia has little need to go directly to war with Turkey. There are plenty of opportunities for a war by proxy.

Armenians, Kurds, Syrians and even Greeks would go at it if given a a chance.

Russia's main goal could be destabilizing Turkey's east by spreading the Syrian war and backing Armenian and Kurds. Turkey has a very large army but also a lot of hostile borders it potentially might have to defend.

 

[Esmeralda]

Er.... you think Russia would dare take on a country like Turkey? I don't think so. Firstly, Russia has no immediate strategic reason to go to war with Turkey.

Turkey is part of NATO. If it comes to it, NATO will protect Turkey from any invasion.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Turkey should definitely give the Kurds back their territory. We should not be involved with a country like Turkey.

Why should they give it back? Should the US definitely give back Native Americans their territory?

 

[frigidweirdo]

Er.... you think Russia would dare take on a country like Turkey? I don't think so. Firstly, Russia has no immediate strategic reason to go to war with Turkey.

Russia has little need to go directly to war with Turkey. There are plenty of opportunities for a war by proxy.

Armenians, Kurds, Syrians and even Greeks would go at it if given a a chance.

Russia's main goal could be destabilizing Turkey's east by spreading the Syrian war and backing Armenian and Kurds. Turkey has a very large army but also a lot of hostile borders it potentially might have to defend.

True, but can Russia afford that right now? And a proxy war doesn't get Putin Putin-points, only direct wars do that, so he's unlikely to bother too much down that road.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Er.... you think Russia would dare take on a country like Turkey? I don't think so. Firstly, Russia has no immediate strategic reason to go to war with Turkey.

Turkey is part of NATO. If it comes to it, NATO will protect Turkey from any invasion.

Would Russia be willing to see what NATO is made of, or isn't made of?

 

[theHawk]

Er.... you think Russia would dare take on a country like Turkey? I don't think so. Firstly, Russia has no immediate strategic reason to go to war with Turkey.

Turkey is part of NATO. If it comes to it, NATO will protect Turkey from any invasion.

Which is why Turkey should be booted from NATO. America isn't willing to go to war for a bunch of corrupt Muslims. But squatters like you don't care. Democrats have become the party of warmongers.

 

[Meathead]

Er.... you think Russia would dare take on a country like Turkey? I don't think so. Firstly, Russia has no immediate strategic reason to go to war with Turkey.

Russia has little need to go directly to war with Turkey. There are plenty of opportunities for a war by proxy.

Armenians, Kurds, Syrians and even Greeks would go at it if given a a chance.

Russia's main goal could be destabilizing Turkey's east by spreading the Syrian war and backing Armenian and Kurds. Turkey has a very large army but also a lot of hostile borders it potentially might have to defend.

True, but can Russia afford that right now? And a proxy war doesn't get Putin Putin-points, only direct wars do that, so he's unlikely to bother too much down that road.

Putin is not concerned with 'Putin-points'. He is extremely popular and extremely pissed, as his his nation. You're applying US politics to Russian and they have little in common.

 

[Esmeralda]

Er.... you think Russia would dare take on a country like Turkey? I don't think so. Firstly, Russia has no immediate strategic reason to go to war with Turkey.

Turkey is part of NATO. If it comes to it, NATO will protect Turkey from any invasion.

Which is why Turkey should be booted from NATO. America isn't willing to go to war for a bunch of corrupt Muslims. But squatters like you don't care. Democrats have become the party of warmongers.

Yeah. Right. Turkey is not "a bunch of corrupt Muslims." I've lived in Turkey. Spent 2 years working and living there among the Turks. You don't have a clue what the real Turkey is like.

The current govenment is not the favorite of the middle and upper class, of the educated people. Erdoğan will not be there forever. The good people of Turkey have been trying to get rid of him since he's been in office and will do so eventually.

Turkey is in general a good and democratic country, based on Atatürk's Reforms and legacy. Once they get rid of Erdoğan, they will go back to what Atatürk envisioned. Atatürk is damn near worshiped in Turkey, is considered the George Washington of Turkey, the founding father, essentially.

You don't understand Turkey at all. They are not at all fundamentalist Muslims and should definitely be protected by NATO and continue to be a member.

 

[Steven_R]

Er.... you think Russia would dare take on a country like Turkey? I don't think so. Firstly, Russia has no immediate strategic reason to go to war with Turkey.

Turkey is part of NATO. If it comes to it, NATO will protect Turkey from any invasion.

Would Russia be willing to see what NATO is made of, or isn't made of?

No. It's way too risky and for far too little gain. If it was a conventional war only, maybe (not likely, but maybe), but NATO versus Russia is almost guaranteed to involve canned sunshine at some point.

It's far better to do a replay of Korea, Vietnam, or Afghanistan and fight it out via proxy wars.

 

[Meathead]

NATO's only other member in the region is Greece. It doesn't take a genius to figure out that Greece will be, at the very least, uncooperative.

 

[Esmeralda]

Er.... you think Russia would dare take on a country like Turkey? I don't think so. Firstly, Russia has no immediate strategic reason to go to war with Turkey.

Turkey is part of NATO. If it comes to it, NATO will protect Turkey from any invasion.

Would Russia be willing to see what NATO is made of, or isn't made of?

No. It's way too risky and for far too little gain. If it was a conventional war only, maybe (not likely, but maybe), but NATO versus Russia is almost guaranteed to involve canned sunshine at some point.

It's far better to do a replay of Korea, Vietnam, or Afghanistan and fight it out via proxy wars.

Russia will not take on NATO.

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

Er.... you think Russia would dare take on a country like Turkey? I don't think so. Firstly, Russia has no immediate strategic reason to go to war with Turkey.

Turkey is part of NATO. If it comes to it, NATO will protect Turkey from any invasion.

It should be removed from NATO.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

NATO should drop Turkey for downing the Russian plane without permission, right

 

[Meathead]

Turkish fighters violate Greek airspace literally hundreds of times each and every year, and yet not one has been shot down.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Er.... you think Russia would dare take on a country like Turkey? I don't think so. Firstly, Russia has no immediate strategic reason to go to war with Turkey.

Russia has little need to go directly to war with Turkey. There are plenty of opportunities for a war by proxy.

Armenians, Kurds, Syrians and even Greeks would go at it if given a a chance.

Russia's main goal could be destabilizing Turkey's east by spreading the Syrian war and backing Armenian and Kurds. Turkey has a very large army but also a lot of hostile borders it potentially might have to defend.

True, but can Russia afford that right now? And a proxy war doesn't get Putin Putin-points, only direct wars do that, so he's unlikely to bother too much down that road.

Putin is not concerned with 'Putin-points'. He is extremely popular and extremely pissed, as his his nation. You're applying US politics to Russian and they have little in common.

No, I'm not applying US politics to this at all.

Putin has had three major military interventions in his time, each have been calculated and taking on those who knows he can defeat easily.

Each time his popularity rose because of this. He isn't always so popular.

The Russo-Georgian War was the 7th to the 12th August 2008. Putin's approval rating s were at a high of 88 at this point.

You can see he went from 61 to 83 from the Ukrainian conflict. He's popular right now. He doesn't need to boost his popularity. The Ukraine annoyed him many times during his time in office, he didn't invade until he saw the circumstances that allowed him to do it knowing he would be able to get away with it. He wouldn't have attacked the Ukraine at any other point. The post Crimean annexation period with Russia supporting the rebels in the east of the country was neither here nor there. Putin has been happy for it to drag on. He could have ended it one way or another, but he has no reason to. He's getting away with something that already existed, and he's defying the west.

With Turkey, he doesn't know what he'd get. It's NATO, it's also Turkey. How will Muslims react to all of this, how will NATO react? Too many possibilities for defeat. Even if he spends some money to try and undermine Turkey, what will he achieve exactly? Russia has no borders with Turkey, nothing to annex, no potential victories on the horizon.

Being angry he might be, however is he angry enough to make a stupid mistake? I don't think so. He was playing games with Turkey, he got bitten on the ass, he'll learn from that, and he'll make sure he's on top somehow, but that doesn't mean military intervention.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Turkish fighters violate Greek airspace literally hundreds of times each and every year, and yet not one has been shot down.

And maybe Greece isn't a threat to Turkish interests. Russia is.

 

[tigerred59]

Turkey will lost Bosporus, Dardanelles, Constantinople ( Istanbul ) and curds areas.

It will be Putin's revenge.The Church Hagia Sophia will be christian again.Putin's thinking is long-term, if Turkey believe , NATO will help it, that's wrong.Not now, but in few years you will see it.

Erdogan and his son are Turkey's morticians.Most of modern Turkey are former Greek, Armenian, Curds or other folks areas who were murdered by Mongols ( Turks ) in Name of Islam.

TURKEY'S ALREADY LOST....WE BOUGHT HAM THIS YEAR......YOU SERIOUSLY NEED TO GET A LIFE AND LEAVE THE MUSLIMS ALONE...HOW BOUT THAT HILLBILLY TERRORIST THAT KILLED A COP?