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If we went with my plan, they would self deport. I would like to fix the problem and all incentive. They wouldnt come/stay here to lay in the streets dumb, hungry and sick.You think trying to deport 10+ million people is a practical solution? Come on, that can only faili just dont support failure. especially when it is probably the main incentive to come here illegally.Im just getting it on record because DACA legalization is going to happen. Comprehensive Immigration Reform will involve some form of Amnesty as well, which Trump said he wanted to tackle next. I think its needed I applaud Trump for the way he conducted the meeting yesterday. If you are expecting to build a coast to coast wall, have Mexico pay for it and deport 10+ million people then you are in for a sad disappointment.yes. He was also referring to actual amnesty for millions of illegals, apparently. Thats an even BIGLY'ER issue.Do you consider legal status for DACA people, "Reaganing the issue"?This is an example of how principled individuals criticize the ones they have defended in the past. Those who have no principles toe the party line, regardless.
Trump is a complete dumbass if he Reagans this issue.
I want to fix the system, not add to its failure.
If we made decisions based on logic and sound reasoning, rather than based on emotion, everyone would agree that this is the fair, correct, and most effective solution.If we went with my plan, they would self deport. I would like to fix the problem and all incentive. They wouldnt come/stay here to lay in the streets dumb, hungry and sick.
It would be hard to accomplish it all, though. What people fail to remember is actual solutions arent always easy. If they were, we wouldnt use band-aids.
Didnt make the numbers but we did that in the 50s. Deported a lot of illegals. Over 1M the first year. The years leading up to that were in the hundreds of thousands. Compare that to around 15K before that.You think trying to deport 10+ million people is a practical solution? Come on, that can only fail
Well, right wingers can always say, "...it worked for the Nazis....."
A few years ago my self made grandmother (irony alert)told me the worst thing that happened to this country was giving women the right to vote.If we made decisions based on logic and sound reasoning, rather than based on emotion, everyone would agree that this is the fair, correct, and most effective solution.If we went with my plan, they would self deport. I would like to fix the problem and all incentive. They wouldnt come/stay here to lay in the streets dumb, hungry and sick.
It would be hard to accomplish it all, though. What people fail to remember is actual solutions arent always easy. If they were, we wouldnt use band-aids.
Too many mental midgets will cry, moan, piss, and puke about how it is inhumane and "think of the children" ...
...which is why I support the repeal of the 19th Amendment.
You were both truthful and flattering. You have mad skills.A few years ago my self made grandmother (irony alert)told me the worst thing that happened to this country was giving women the right to vote.
I disagreed and said it was when they changed it from just land owners. She then told me she loved me.
You were both truthful and flattering. You have mad skills.A few years ago my self made grandmother (irony alert)told me the worst thing that happened to this country was giving women the right to vote.
I disagreed and said it was when they changed it from just land owners. She then told me she loved me.
If we went with my plan, they would self deport. I would like to fix the problem and all incentive. They wouldnt come/stay here to lay in the streets dumb, hungry and sick.You think trying to deport 10+ million people is a practical solution? Come on, that can only faili just dont support failure. especially when it is probably the main incentive to come here illegally.Im just getting it on record because DACA legalization is going to happen. Comprehensive Immigration Reform will involve some form of Amnesty as well, which Trump said he wanted to tackle next. I think its needed I applaud Trump for the way he conducted the meeting yesterday. If you are expecting to build a coast to coast wall, have Mexico pay for it and deport 10+ million people then you are in for a sad disappointment.yes. He was also referring to actual amnesty for millions of illegals, apparently. Thats an even BIGLY'ER issue.Do you consider legal status for DACA people, "Reaganing the issue"?
I want to fix the system, not add to its failure.
It would be hard to accomplish it all, though. What people fail to remember is actual solutions arent always easy. If they were, we wouldnt use band-aids.
I don’t think your solution is practical. We have a great country, greatest on earth in many’s opinion. People aren’t going to want to leave the greatest country on earth for a lesser country, especially one that may be crime and poverty stricken.If we went with my plan, they would self deport. I would like to fix the problem and all incentive. They wouldnt come/stay here to lay in the streets dumb, hungry and sick.You think trying to deport 10+ million people is a practical solution? Come on, that can only faili just dont support failure. especially when it is probably the main incentive to come here illegally.Im just getting it on record because DACA legalization is going to happen. Comprehensive Immigration Reform will involve some form of Amnesty as well, which Trump said he wanted to tackle next. I think its needed I applaud Trump for the way he conducted the meeting yesterday. If you are expecting to build a coast to coast wall, have Mexico pay for it and deport 10+ million people then you are in for a sad disappointment.yes. He was also referring to actual amnesty for millions of illegals, apparently. Thats an even BIGLY'ER issue.Do you consider legal status for DACA people, "Reaganing the issue"?
I want to fix the system, not add to its failure.
It would be hard to accomplish it all, though. What people fail to remember is actual solutions arent always easy. If they were, we wouldnt use band-aids.
I think you give them too much credit.I don’t think your solution is practical. We have a great country, greatest on earth in many’s opinion. People aren’t going to want to leave the greatest country on earth for a lesser country, especially one that may be crime and poverty stricken.If we went with my plan, they would self deport. I would like to fix the problem and all incentive. They wouldnt come/stay here to lay in the streets dumb, hungry and sick.You think trying to deport 10+ million people is a practical solution? Come on, that can only faili just dont support failure. especially when it is probably the main incentive to come here illegally.Im just getting it on record because DACA legalization is going to happen. Comprehensive Immigration Reform will involve some form of Amnesty as well, which Trump said he wanted to tackle next. I think its needed I applaud Trump for the way he conducted the meeting yesterday. If you are expecting to build a coast to coast wall, have Mexico pay for it and deport 10+ million people then you are in for a sad disappointment.yes. He was also referring to actual amnesty for millions of illegals, apparently. Thats an even BIGLY'ER issue.
I want to fix the system, not add to its failure.
It would be hard to accomplish it all, though. What people fail to remember is actual solutions arent always easy. If they were, we wouldnt use band-aids.
So you want to starve them by cutting of their work opportunities and beefing up law enforcement, right? This “solution” will in turn increase their poverty and crime rates as their last resort will be to work on the black market. So then you have to fill jails and process millions of convictions and deportations. Do you have any kind of understanding how much time Money and devistation that process would realistically take? And after it all, like the war on drugs, it will persist because it can not be won.
Do you have any idea how many people were deported under Obama?Didnt make the numbers but we did that in the 50s. Deported a lot of illegals. Over 1M the first year. The years leading up to that were in the hundreds of thousands. Compare that to around 15K before that.You think trying to deport 10+ million people is a practical solution? Come on, that can only fail
Well, right wingers can always say, "...it worked for the Nazis....."
Actual deportations or border turnarounds? Good luck finding out the real answer to that question.Do you have any idea how many people were deported under Obama?Didnt make the numbers but we did that in the 50s. Deported a lot of illegals. Over 1M the first year. The years leading up to that were in the hundreds of thousands. Compare that to around 15K before that.You think trying to deport 10+ million people is a practical solution? Come on, that can only fail
Well, right wingers can always say, "...it worked for the Nazis....."
Do you have any idea how many people were deported under Obama?Didnt make the numbers but we did that in the 50s. Deported a lot of illegals. Over 1M the first year. The years leading up to that were in the hundreds of thousands. Compare that to around 15K before that.You think trying to deport 10+ million people is a practical solution? Come on, that can only fail
Well, right wingers can always say, "...it worked for the Nazis....."
I’m not supporting known failure. I’m supporting comprehensive reform. You can still implement your security and enforcement tactics while dealing with the undocumented in this country in a practical way.I think you give them too much credit.I don’t think your solution is practical. We have a great country, greatest on earth in many’s opinion. People aren’t going to want to leave the greatest country on earth for a lesser country, especially one that may be crime and poverty stricken.If we went with my plan, they would self deport. I would like to fix the problem and all incentive. They wouldnt come/stay here to lay in the streets dumb, hungry and sick.You think trying to deport 10+ million people is a practical solution? Come on, that can only faili just dont support failure. especially when it is probably the main incentive to come here illegally.Im just getting it on record because DACA legalization is going to happen. Comprehensive Immigration Reform will involve some form of Amnesty as well, which Trump said he wanted to tackle next. I think its needed I applaud Trump for the way he conducted the meeting yesterday. If you are expecting to build a coast to coast wall, have Mexico pay for it and deport 10+ million people then you are in for a sad disappointment.
I want to fix the system, not add to its failure.
It would be hard to accomplish it all, though. What people fail to remember is actual solutions arent always easy. If they were, we wouldnt use band-aids.
So you want to starve them by cutting of their work opportunities and beefing up law enforcement, right? This “solution” will in turn increase their poverty and crime rates as their last resort will be to work on the black market. So then you have to fill jails and process millions of convictions and deportations. Do you have any kind of understanding how much time Money and devistation that process would realistically take? And after it all, like the war on drugs, it will persist because it can not be won.
Just the fear from trumps presidency has shown they will leave. Take away all the incentives and?
BTW, i think supporting known failure isnt practical.
That Obama math started with Bush and it was changed to track and keep record of those trying to cross illegally. Be honest.Do you have any idea how many people were deported under Obama?Didnt make the numbers but we did that in the 50s. Deported a lot of illegals. Over 1M the first year. The years leading up to that were in the hundreds of thousands. Compare that to around 15K before that.You think trying to deport 10+ million people is a practical solution? Come on, that can only fail
Well, right wingers can always say, "...it worked for the Nazis....."
That's because they were using some of that Obama math.
High deportation figures are misleading
I dont think incentive is practical. Incentive is failure.I’m not supporting known failure. I’m supporting comprehensive reform. You can still implement your security and enforcement tactics while dealing with the undocumented in this country in a practical way.I think you give them too much credit.I don’t think your solution is practical. We have a great country, greatest on earth in many’s opinion. People aren’t going to want to leave the greatest country on earth for a lesser country, especially one that may be crime and poverty stricken.If we went with my plan, they would self deport. I would like to fix the problem and all incentive. They wouldnt come/stay here to lay in the streets dumb, hungry and sick.You think trying to deport 10+ million people is a practical solution? Come on, that can only faili just dont support failure. especially when it is probably the main incentive to come here illegally.
I want to fix the system, not add to its failure.
It would be hard to accomplish it all, though. What people fail to remember is actual solutions arent always easy. If they were, we wouldnt use band-aids.
So you want to starve them by cutting of their work opportunities and beefing up law enforcement, right? This “solution” will in turn increase their poverty and crime rates as their last resort will be to work on the black market. So then you have to fill jails and process millions of convictions and deportations. Do you have any kind of understanding how much time Money and devistation that process would realistically take? And after it all, like the war on drugs, it will persist because it can not be won.
Just the fear from trumps presidency has shown they will leave. Take away all the incentives and?
BTW, i think supporting known failure isnt practical.
Unreasonable whine thread #23123186.
Just wait for the wall...
Living in America is the incentive. Nobody is saying to allow people to cross illegally. If people do that in the future then deport them. And in the mean time beef up our border security and visa tracking so less get through. But you are proposing to do nothing about the millions of people who have been here for years. You can’t deport them all, so you are letting the problem fester. If you were being honest youd admit that the only practical solution is beefing up security and enforcement AND creating a pathway for existing aliens. It’s the only practical solutionI dont think incentive is practical. Incentive is failure.I’m not supporting known failure. I’m supporting comprehensive reform. You can still implement your security and enforcement tactics while dealing with the undocumented in this country in a practical way.I think you give them too much credit.I don’t think your solution is practical. We have a great country, greatest on earth in many’s opinion. People aren’t going to want to leave the greatest country on earth for a lesser country, especially one that may be crime and poverty stricken.If we went with my plan, they would self deport. I would like to fix the problem and all incentive. They wouldnt come/stay here to lay in the streets dumb, hungry and sick.You think trying to deport 10+ million people is a practical solution? Come on, that can only fail
It would be hard to accomplish it all, though. What people fail to remember is actual solutions arent always easy. If they were, we wouldnt use band-aids.
So you want to starve them by cutting of their work opportunities and beefing up law enforcement, right? This “solution” will in turn increase their poverty and crime rates as their last resort will be to work on the black market. So then you have to fill jails and process millions of convictions and deportations. Do you have any kind of understanding how much time Money and devistation that process would realistically take? And after it all, like the war on drugs, it will persist because it can not be won.
Just the fear from trumps presidency has shown they will leave. Take away all the incentives and?
BTW, i think supporting known failure isnt practical.
That Obama math started with Bush and it was changed to track and keep record of those trying to cross illegally. Be honest.Do you have any idea how many people were deported under Obama?Didnt make the numbers but we did that in the 50s. Deported a lot of illegals. Over 1M the first year. The years leading up to that were in the hundreds of thousands. Compare that to around 15K before that.You think trying to deport 10+ million people is a practical solution? Come on, that can only fail
Well, right wingers can always say, "...it worked for the Nazis....."
That's because they were using some of that Obama math.
High deportation figures are misleading
Remove those who were turned away from the border. How many deportations did he have?
