Trust those oil companies

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    Flow Rate Estimate Spikes As Oil Executives Face Congressional Criticism of Disaster Response Plans - ABC News

    Long-Dead Expert and Walruses in the Gulf?
    Markey said that the five oil giants had disaster response plans that were "virtually identical," with equipment he called "ineffective."

    Markey said that "two other plans are such dead ringers for BP's that they list a phone number for the same long-dead expert."

    Indeed, BP's 582-page response plan, filed in 2009, listed Professor Peter Lutz from the University of Miami as a wildlife expert, though he has been dead since 2005. The document, outlining the company's planned response to a Gulf spill, listed walruses, sea lions and seals as animals that could be affected -- though none of them live in the Gulf of Mexico's warm waters.
    Waxman provided examples of sentences from different companies' plans that are identical, save for the name of the company.

    "When you look at the details, it becomes evident these plans are just paper exercises. BP failed miserably when confronted with a real leak, and one can only wonder whether ExxonMobil and the other companies would do any better," said Waxman.
     
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    No you fool! Trust no one!
     
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    More PR from you?

    You really going to make me beat this piece of garbage?
     
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    Please educate me on the superior federal plan that has been put into effect as a result of the spill.
     
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    Well, I do believe if the whole of the upper echelon of the BP management were to be required to spend the next year in hard time, you would see all the oild companies taking very strong steps on safety.
     
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    Hey Suckeeee..... Go ahead. Prove that they did not all have the same plan, even to listing walruses as part of the ecosystem of the Gulf. By the way, did you help write that plan?
     
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    And I believe that if the entire Congress were held responsible for all their atrocities you would see the nest group of representatives doing a better job. The problem is that both of those are fantasies, so it doesn't matter what either of us believes, what matters is what is. Why don't you spend a little time coming up with a solution instead of scouring the internet to prove your point that the entire world is evil, and the only hoe we have is Obama?
     
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    Never ascribe to conspiracy what simple stupidity can explain.

    President Obama has moved far too slow on this. But he did not create the situation. Criminal negligence on the part of BP did. And the Federal Government has no equipment to deal with the well at 5000 ft. And we see another potential accident on the Atlantis.

    But you are saying that we should do nothing? The MMS had a criminally close relationship with the oil companies, and we need to hire new inspectors and go over these rigs with a fine toothed comb. We cannot afford any further accidents like this.
     
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    Criminal negligence did? Did I miss the trial where someone was found guilty of this? Did I even miss the investigation where someone was charged?

    Until someone is charged, and convicted, anything you say about this being the result of criminal negligence does not even rise to the level of supposition.
     
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    You know, you can shit someone without extensive experiance in industry, but what has already come out says 100% criminal negligence.

    Why you defend that is your business. However, the evidence is already been presented by those working on the rig, and the internal memos of BP.
     

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