trump would abandon NATO if re-elected

[d0gbreath]

Sticking with the demented fuck, huh?

Yeah, I much prefer him. He needs two consecutive terms, so that America can be great again.

 

[Orangecat]

trump would abandon NATO if re-elected​

As if I needed another reason to vote for him.

 

[JWBooth]

Trump Will Abandon NATO

If reelected, he would end our commitment to the European alliance, reshaping the international order and hobbling American influence in the world.

www.theatlantic.com

trump doesn't care about NATO. He said so himself, many times. He knows if he abandons NATO, Putin would have a easy road to take back the old Soviet countries, and more. trump is the most dangerous man in the world right now. He has assembled a cult that is will to do anything he asks, including acts of violence and intimidation. He is the danger from within that our founding fathers warned us about.

He should but he won’t.

 

[Tom Paine 1949]

The threat from Trump, given his avowed attraction to dictators like Putin, is real. But nobody can ever predict with certainty Trump’s mind or future actions, because he has no real political loyalties whatever. Trump is like a spoiled child. That translates into being all about staying out of jail, increasing his power and satisfying his enormous ego.

 

[Rawley]

Yeah, I much prefer him. He needs two consecutive terms, so that America can be great again.

Two terms? LOL $1.00 he doesn't make it to the election.

 

[jbrownson0831]

The threat from Trump, given his avowed attraction to dictators like Putin, is real. But nobody can ever predict with certainty Trump’s mind or future actions, because he has no real political loyalties whatever. Trump is like a spoiled child. That translates into being all about staying out of jail, preserving his power and satisfying his enormous ego.

Wow you kooks could use some brain cells.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Trump Will Abandon NATO

If reelected, he would end our commitment to the European alliance, reshaping the international order and hobbling American influence in the world.

www.theatlantic.com

trump doesn't care about NATO. He said so himself, many times. He knows if he abandons NATO, Putin would have a easy road to take back the old Soviet countries, and more. trump is the most dangerous man in the world right now. He has assembled a cult that is will to do anything he asks, including acts of violence and intimidation. He is the danger from within that our founding fathers warned us about.

Yes! Yes! YES!!! US out of NATO! Out of the UN too! And the WHO!!

 

[d0gbreath]

Two terms? LOL $1.00 he doesn't make it to the election.

I'll cover that Rawley.

 

[kyzr]

The OP is a LIE

Trump strengthened NATO, so says the NATO secretary:

'Trump is having an impact': NATO head credits president's tough talk for $100B boost

Jens Stoltenberg, the NATO secretary general, said Trump is helping the alliance adapt to "a more unpredictable world."

www.usatoday.com

'Trump is having an impact': NATO head credits president's tough talk for $100B boost​

Parliament holds Joe Biden in contempt over Afghanistan

MPs and peers unite to condemn ‘dishonour’ of US president’s withdrawal and his criticism of Afghan troops left behind to face Taliban

www.telegraph.co.uk

 

[Doc7505]

No he wouldn't. He'd just make them pay their fair share. Much of NATO is all about defending Europe, not the US, and yet they expect us to foot most of the bill.

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Empty Meetings and Broken Promises: How NATO is Failing to do its Job

"Members have increasingly taken to simply bypassing the NATO decision-making process entirely and pursuing bilateral or trilateral negotiation."

hir.harvard.edu

 

[Tom Paine 1949]

Yes! Yes! YES!!! US out of NATO! Out of the UN too! And the WHO!!

As always, my own favorite moron, CrusaderFrank, advocates what, for lack of a better description, I call “the Monty Python Black Knight” philosophy of international relations:

 

[whitehall]

The last time the U.S. used NATO was when Bill Clinton went to his socialist partner and authorized the bombing of a defenseless country. Maybe lefties are afraid that Trump would assert America's authority and make NATO nations pay their fair share.

 

[Tom Paine 1949]

Actually, the Trump presidency did help NATO countries realize they needed to up their own contributions. Trump’s love affair with Putin helped them realize they needed to be able to defend themselves, because the U.S. was unreliable as a shield against their biggest threat. Trump may indeed leave NATO if he is elected in 2024. Of course countries like Poland always feared Russia, and warned against it. After Putin’s full invasion of Ukraine, most NATO countries got much more serious about building up their own NATO forces and helping Ukraine. That was indeed a very good thing. But more work is necessary, especially as right-wing Putin-sympathetic reactionary forces also exist in some NATO countries, as they do in the U.S.A.

 

[JohnDB]

There are 44 countries in Europe with their own militaries. Why can't they deal with Russia? It's their backyard, not ours.

Exactly wrong...
Russia is America's neighbor. Russia is less than 60 miles from the border.
Not even a minute at 60mph.

Unless you are up for giving Alaska away to Russia and California no longer has so much as a drop of petroleum in it overnight. You ready for that? Nevermind the millions of Americans in Alaska who provide all sorts of resources to the lower 48.

 

[Missouri_Mike]

Trump Will Abandon NATO

If reelected, he would end our commitment to the European alliance, reshaping the international order and hobbling American influence in the world.

www.theatlantic.com

trump doesn't care about NATO. He said so himself, many times. He knows if he abandons NATO, Putin would have an easy road to take back the old Soviet countries, and more. trump is the most dangerous man in the world right now. He has assembled a cult that is will to do anything he asks, including acts of violence and intimidation. He is the danger from within that our founding fathers warned us about.

I’m good with that. If the other countries aren’t willing to pony up their fair share then we leave.

 

[Missouri_Mike]

Exactly wrong...
Russia is America's neighbor. Russia is less than 60 miles from the border.
Not even a minute at 60mph.

Unless you are up for giving Alaska away to Russia and California no longer has so much as a drop of petroleum in it overnight. You ready for that? Nevermind the millions of Americans in Alaska who provide all sorts of resources to the lower 48.

Why wouldn’t we defend Alaska? That doesn’t mean we have to defend any other countries.

 

[JohnDB]

Poland is one of the countries in NATO that is holding up their part. They have the machinery and manpower agreed to.
So is Britain.

France, Germany, Hungary, Greece Switzerland and etc....not so much.

 

[MinTrut]

Trump Will Abandon NATO

If reelected, he would end our commitment to the European alliance, reshaping the international order and hobbling American influence in the world.

www.theatlantic.com

trump doesn't care about NATO. He said so himself, many times. He knows if he abandons NATO, Putin would have a easy road to take back the old Soviet countries, and more. trump is the most dangerous man in the world right now. He has assembled a cult that is will to do anything he asks, including acts of violence and intimidation. He is the danger from within that our founding fathers warned us about.

Stop tempting me to vote for the guy!

But yeah, the DeepState would murder him - literally - if he tried this.

 

[JohnDB]

Why wouldn’t we defend Alaska? That doesn’t mean we have to defend any other countries.

It would be much more difficult for Russia to defend its eastern and western borders at the same time during a fight. It would be getting attacked from both sides is the deal.
Not to mention Russia would control 60-80% of the world's supply of uranium. And then could control 60% of the world's petroleum.

 

[Tom Paine 1949]

One doesn’t have to be a neo-con or a fan of Anne Applebaum to share her fears about Trump simply leaving the alliance, or trying to destroy it from within:

“NATO, founded in 1949 and supported for three-quarters of a century by Democrats, Republicans, and independents alike, has long been a particular focus of Trump’s ire. As president, Trump threatened to withdraw from NATO many times—including, infamously, at the 2018 NATO summit….

“During Trump’s time in office, the withdrawal never happened. That was because someone was always there to talk him out of it. Bolton says he did; Jim Mattis, John Kelly, Rex Tillerson, Mike Pompeo, and even Mike Pence are thought to have done so too.

“But they didn’t change his mind. And if Trump is reelected in 2024, none of those people will be in the White House. All of them have broken with the former president, in some cases dramatically, and there isn’t another pool of Republican analysts who understand Russia and Europe, because most of them either signed statements opposing him in 2016 or criticized him after 2020. In a second term, Trump would be surrounded by people who either share his dislike of American security alliances or don’t know anything about them and don’t care. This time, the ill will that Trump has always felt toward American allies would likely manifest itself in a clear policy change. “The damage he did in his first term was reparable,” Bolton told me. “The damage in the second term would be irreparable.”…

By the way, if the European NATO countries were truly united and capable of developing a single foreign and economic policy, they might not need the U.S., and their separate European political interests might be expressed more clearly. In that case it might be OK for the U.S. to withdraw slowly and Europe to establish its own military force, still as a democratic ally of our country. But this is simply not the case now.

See: Trump Will Abandon NATO