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Cally served his time in house arrest in his quarters
Not bad for slaughtering unarmed civilians
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Trump working on pardoning people accused of war crimes
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Not bad for slaughtering unarmed civilians
Trump would be proud
harmonica
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they haven't committed war crimes --just accusedDonald Trump has asked for files to be prepared on pardoning several US military members accused of or convicted of war crimes, including one slated to stand trial on charges of shooting unarmed civilians while in Iraq, the New York Times reported.
charging a man with murder in this place was like handing out speeding tickets in the Indy 500. I took the mission. What the hell else was I gonna do?
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You are a LYING SACK OF SHIT. Worse, you KNOW you are a lying sack of shit!What is funny is that this is just your own made up list
IF YOU CAN'T BE TRUSTED TO EVEN REMEMBER YOUR OWN HISTORY or to PRESENT THE FACTS THAT ARE RIGHT HERE ON THIS FORUM, then you have NO CREDIBILITY in anything you say here either! Your claims, statements and opinions now mean ZERO and you've been identified as at best a totally partisan idiot.
MADE UP MY OWN LIST, HUH, COYOTE? SO BUSTED AGAIN:
SEE POST #385:
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Nuff said. I had respect for you as a moderator here, I thought you were at least a step above, but you are nothing but a total lying SOS like every other Left-wingnut on this board and you have zero credibility or integrity from here on out!
Easy enough to see who is the liar:
But then, nothing really new here.
Know it? I was NYPD for 2 decades probably when you were in public school!Apples and oranges comparison. Cops are HERE where they expect people to respect and trust them to help them and the FEW shootings are usually the fault of the person shot, like FAILURE to listen and obey a LEGAL ORDER .... muslims do NONE OF THAT!!!If the US military can be defeated by insurgents not in uniform -- it's pretty much game over as far as containing these terrorist groups...
Might be easy to beat the US military in the next Civil War then.. Just don't hand out uniforms and make SURE you ask for a lawyer if you're captured...
Cops deal with people not in uniforms every day that might be ready to kill them, and aren't out shooting unarmed people all the time, and when they do, that are getting punished for it, and no one is pardoning them.
No they don't. Do you know what two of the most dangerous situations are for a police officer that is likely to get them hurt or killed? A routine traffic stop, and responding to a domestic violence call where they may try to stop the fight, and next thing they know both spouses are attacking them.
And the Surrender Monkey killing innocent citizens...where is your phony outrage?Cally served his time in house arrest in his quartersNo low to low for a man who openly admires and seeks to emulate dictators and authoritarians.
Our military has standards and codes. It is professional and strict. Something our enemies typically lack. Trump seems to want them to emulate our enemies. No surprise.
Trump may pardon US soldiers accused or convicted of war crimes – report
Legal experts cited in the report said pardoning several accused and convicted war criminals, including some who have not yet gone to trial, has not been done in recent history. Some worried such pardons could erode the legitimacy of military law.
I'm pretty critical of Trump, but not in this case.
We put these men in an impossible situation in many cases, and some of them made very bad decisions.
Historically, we've always treated these guys pretty leniently. Rusty Cally of Mai Lai fame spent less ththe3 years in prison for murdering 347 Vietnamese civilians. He was the only person held accountable for that, even though he didn't give the order and he didn't do all the shooting.
Not bad for slaughtering unarmed civilians
Trump would be proud
From torture to drone strikes: the disturbing legal legacy Obama is leaving for Trump
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Jan 10, 2017 · President Barack Obama delivers a farewell speech to the nation on ... Using drones to kill American citizens without trial, collecting the
Lewdog
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Know it? I was NYPD for 2 decades probably when you were in public school!Apples and oranges comparison. Cops are HERE where they expect people to respect and trust them to help them and the FEW shootings are usually the fault of the person shot, like FAILURE to listen and obey a LEGAL ORDER .... muslims do NONE OF THAT!!!If the US military can be defeated by insurgents not in uniform -- it's pretty much game over as far as containing these terrorist groups...
Might be easy to beat the US military in the next Civil War then.. Just don't hand out uniforms and make SURE you ask for a lawyer if you're captured...
Cops deal with people not in uniforms every day that might be ready to kill them, and aren't out shooting unarmed people all the time, and when they do, that are getting punished for it, and no one is pardoning them.
No they don't. Do you know what two of the most dangerous situations are for a police officer that is likely to get them hurt or killed? A routine traffic stop, and responding to a domestic violence call where they may try to stop the fight, and next thing they know both spouses are attacking them.
Sure you were! If I would have stayed at the prison I'd be close to having 25 years in and be able to retire.
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And he hasn’t done such, now has he? Accuse him of something when it hasn’t happened. Now, where have we seen that before...
Civilians get killed in war, that is understood. But there is a difference between targeting and killing them, and the unavoidable reality that some will get caught up in firefight.
https://nypost.com/2019/05/18/trump-expected-to-pardon-navy-seal-accused-of-war-crimes/
According to the Times, the president might also pardon Army Green Beret Mathew Golsteyn, who was accused of killing an unarmed civilian; Nicholas Slatten, a former Blackwater guard found guilty of shooting dozens of unarmed Iraqis; and a group of Marine snipers accused of defiling a dead Taliban fighter’s corpse.
I am somewhat sympathetic to Golsteyn...his situation was a difficult one and his record had many good points, but the military has its own strict boards and rules and they exist for a reason.
Nicholas Slatten on the other hand.....
https://www.washingtonpost.com/loca...dfd0e0dd65a_story.html?utm_term=.58353655e006
This man’s actions are exactly why private contractors (aka mercenaries) should not be there.
Only thing is you didn't have the keys when you were in!...I really don't care if you believe me or not!Know it? I was NYPD for 2 decades probably when you were in public school!Apples and oranges comparison. Cops are HERE where they expect people to respect and trust them to help them and the FEW shootings are usually the fault of the person shot, like FAILURE to listen and obey a LEGAL ORDER .... muslims do NONE OF THAT!!!If the US military can be defeated by insurgents not in uniform -- it's pretty much game over as far as containing these terrorist groups...
Might be easy to beat the US military in the next Civil War then.. Just don't hand out uniforms and make SURE you ask for a lawyer if you're captured...
Cops deal with people not in uniforms every day that might be ready to kill them, and aren't out shooting unarmed people all the time, and when they do, that are getting punished for it, and no one is pardoning them.
No they don't. Do you know what two of the most dangerous situations are for a police officer that is likely to get them hurt or killed? A routine traffic stop, and responding to a domestic violence call where they may try to stop the fight, and next thing they know both spouses are attacking them.
Sure you were! If I would have stayed at the prison I'd be close to having 25 years in and be able to retire.
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You know, of course, that most of these so-called "war crimes" are bullshit.No low to low for a man who openly admires and seeks to emulate dictators and authoritarians.
Our military has standards and codes. It is professional and strict. Something our enemies typically lack. Trump seems to want them to emulate our enemies. No surprise.
Trump may pardon US soldiers accused or convicted of war crimes – report
Legal experts cited in the report said pardoning several accused and convicted war criminals, including some who have not yet gone to trial, has not been done in recent history. Some worried such pardons could erode the legitimacy of military law.
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You have proof of that?Targeting and murdering unarmed civilians has nothing to do with PC.So much better when Clinton was getting paid to pardon criminals right? In this case the men were convicted not because what they did was so bad but because it wasn't PC.
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No low to low for a man who openly admires and seeks to emulate dictators and authoritarians.
Our military has standards and codes. It is professional and strict. Something our enemies typically lack. Trump seems to want them to emulate our enemies. No surprise.
Trump may pardon US soldiers accused or convicted of war crimes – report
Legal experts cited in the report said pardoning several accused and convicted war criminals, including some who have not yet gone to trial, has not been done in recent history. Some worried such pardons could erode the legitimacy of military law.
Trump has already pardoned a convicted murderer; why not pardon more murderers?
Makes perfect sense for TrumpAssHole.
It looks like you're the asshole. The so-called "murder victim" was a murdering terrorists.
During a deployment in Iraq in 2008, First Lt. Michael Behenna and his platoon believed the man, Ali Mansur, was a terrorist linked to Al Qaeda. They took him to a remote part of the Iraqi desert to question him about a previous attack that left two American soldiers dead, according to court filings. During the interrogation, Lieutenant Behenna shot Mr. Mansur in the head and chest.
Mr. Behenna has said he acted in self-defense and that Mr. Mansur had thrown a piece of concrete at him and reached for his gun.
In 2009, the military court found him guilty of “unpremeditated murder in a combat zone,” and he was sentenced to 25 years in prison, the White House said in a statement Monday. He was released on parole in 2014.
In its statement, the White House said that Mr. Behenna “has attracted broad support from the military, Oklahoma elected officials, and the public.”
“Further, while serving his sentence,” it continued, “Mr. Behenna was a model prisoner. In light of these facts, Mr. Behenna is entirely deserving of this Grant of Executive Clemency.”
Mr. Behenna has said he acted in self-defense and that Mr. Mansur had thrown a piece of concrete at him and reached for his gun.
In 2009, the military court found him guilty of “unpremeditated murder in a combat zone,” and he was sentenced to 25 years in prison, the White House said in a statement Monday. He was released on parole in 2014.
In its statement, the White House said that Mr. Behenna “has attracted broad support from the military, Oklahoma elected officials, and the public.”
“Further, while serving his sentence,” it continued, “Mr. Behenna was a model prisoner. In light of these facts, Mr. Behenna is entirely deserving of this Grant of Executive Clemency.”
That link--isn't the Guardian located in a country that tried to do in the Founders' families, burning their homes, making orphans of their children, all over taxes on the basic foodstuffs of life? Oh, yea, that go-for-the-neck outfit, the British, still loyal to the greediest monarch of them all who'd rather fight that give a break to the colonies whom he regularly patronized out of their good fortunes. *sigh* No hard feelings, but what a choice link. 
/——/ And Obozo’s list of pardons: Pardons Granted by President Barack Obama (2009-2017)No low to low for a man who openly admires and seeks to emulate dictators and authoritarians.
Our military has standards and codes. It is professional and strict. Something our enemies typically lack. Trump seems to want them to emulate our enemies. No surprise.
Trump may pardon US soldiers accused or convicted of war crimes – report
Legal experts cited in the report said pardoning several accused and convicted war criminals, including some who have not yet gone to trial, has not been done in recent history. Some worried such pardons could erode the legitimacy of military law.
All of them say they are unarmed until a video shows up that illustrates clearly that they were armed. That happened over and over in Iraq. It's their way of getting even with the stupid people they are lying to. Here's the Iraqi attitude toward America:Cally served his time in house arrest in his quartersNo low to low for a man who openly admires and seeks to emulate dictators and authoritarians.
Our military has standards and codes. It is professional and strict. Something our enemies typically lack. Trump seems to want them to emulate our enemies. No surprise.
Trump may pardon US soldiers accused or convicted of war crimes – report
Legal experts cited in the report said pardoning several accused and convicted war criminals, including some who have not yet gone to trial, has not been done in recent history. Some worried such pardons could erode the legitimacy of military law.
I'm pretty critical of Trump, but not in this case.
We put these men in an impossible situation in many cases, and some of them made very bad decisions.
Historically, we've always treated these guys pretty leniently. Rusty Cally of Mai Lai fame spent less than 3 years in prison for murdering 347 Vietnamese civilians. He was the only person held accountable for that, even though he didn't give the order and he didn't do all the shooting.
Not bad for slaughtering unarmed civilians
Trump would be proud
CPO Navy Seal Edward Gallagher is of course presumed innocent and if you read up on the case it seems that helmet cam. vindicates him. For some reason the Navy seems to want to put a decorated combat Chief Petty Officer Seal away for life because they don't like his attitude. When you consider that John Kerry recommended himself for a Silver Star for a similar incident during the Vietnam war you have to come to the conclusion that the issue is purely political.
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They have offices in the US and Australia as well, and use local reporters.That link--isn't the Guardian located in a country that tried to do in the Founders' families, burning their homes, making orphans of their children, all over taxes on the basic foodstuffs of life? Oh, yea, that go-for-the-neck outfit, the British, still loyal to the greediest monarch of them all who'd rather fight that give a break to the colonies whom he regularly patronized out of their good fortunes. *sigh* No hard feelings, but what a choice link.
But if that is your viewpoint, thanks for pointing out that Fox News is owned by Rupert Murdoch, a treacherous Australian who has lived mostly in England.
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No low to low for a man who openly admires and seeks to emulate dictators and authoritarians.
Our military has standards and codes. It is professional and strict. Something our enemies typically lack. Trump seems to want them to emulate our enemies. No surprise.
Trump may pardon US soldiers accused or convicted of war crimes – report
Legal experts cited in the report said pardoning several accused and convicted war criminals, including some who have not yet gone to trial, has not been done in recent history. Some worried such pardons could erode the legitimacy of military law.
The Terrorists Freed by Obama
I wasn't here, were you upset at this too? If not then it comes off strange and opportunistic so you can bash trump.
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No low to low for a man who openly admires and seeks to emulate dictators and authoritarians.
Our military has standards and codes. It is professional and strict. Something our enemies typically lack. Trump seems to want them to emulate our enemies. No surprise.
Trump may pardon US soldiers accused or convicted of war crimes – report
Legal experts cited in the report said pardoning several accused and convicted war criminals, including some who have not yet gone to trial, has not been done in recent history. Some worried such pardons could erode the legitimacy of military law.
Trump has already pardoned a convicted murderer; why not pardon more murderers?
Makes perfect sense for TrumpAssHole.
It looks like you're the asshole. The so-called "murder victim" was a murdering terrorists.
During a deployment in Iraq in 2008, First Lt. Michael Behenna and his platoon believed the man, Ali Mansur, was a terrorist linked to Al Qaeda. They took him to a remote part of the Iraqi desert to question him about a previous attack that left two American soldiers dead, according to court filings. During the interrogation, Lieutenant Behenna shot Mr. Mansur in the head and chest.
Mr. Behenna has said he acted in self-defense and that Mr. Mansur had thrown a piece of concrete at him and reached for his gun.
In 2009, the military court found him guilty of “unpremeditated murder in a combat zone,” and he was sentenced to 25 years in prison, the White House said in a statement Monday. He was released on parole in 2014.
In its statement, the White House said that Mr. Behenna “has attracted broad support from the military, Oklahoma elected officials, and the public.”
“Further, while serving his sentence,” it continued, “Mr. Behenna was a model prisoner. In light of these facts, Mr. Behenna is entirely deserving of this Grant of Executive Clemency.”
the murderer was tried & convicted by a jury of his peers, you fucking moron
EvilCat Breath
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It's only PC when it's drone strikes ordered by the black presidunce.Targeting and murdering unarmed civilians has nothing to do with PC.So much better when Clinton was getting paid to pardon criminals right? In this case the men were convicted not because what they did was so bad but because it wasn't PC.
The man Trump pardoned killed a terrorist. Good.
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