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Trump & Truth
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[I will be posting what Trump has said in his own words]
The disruptive impacts of Donald Trump's presidency continue to wreak havoc in America and influence politics abroad. Two years after losing the presidency, is his influence behind him or is his MAGA movement still a force to be reckoned with? Steve Paikin discusses this with veteran investigative journalist Bob Woodward.
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Sixties Fan
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CarlinAnnArbor
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Consider yourself lucky.A Mod moved this thread from Politics to Media. Quite interesting.
Sixties Fan
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How amazingly childish.Consider yourself lucky.
Oh, wait, it sounds just like Trump when he threatens people indirectly.
See how Trump got into the pickle he is in?
Wonderful example from you.
Thank you.
Leo123
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Oh gee, Trump 'lies' about his height and weight....Meanwhile Joe Biden lies about using our tax dollars to affect a bribe to get a Ukranian prosecutor fired and lies about using American VP position to get personally enriched from our enemies.
Sixties Fan
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If you listen to him long enough – no easy chore – Donald Trump will tell you all his secrets.
Witness this line from his July 3 speech in Sarasota, Florida:
“If you say it enough and keep saying it, they’ll start to believe you.”
Trump was talking about alleged disinformation directed at him and other Republicans. But WOW does that quote explain everything you need to know about his approach to the presidency and life.
(Sidebar: One can only hope that Trump was unaware that his quote was a near-replication of this infamous line from Nazi Joseph Goebbels: “If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it.”)
Trump has spent a lifetime – in business and politics – repeating exaggerations, half-truths and outright lies to make himself look good.
The books he wrote prior to politics are littered with quotes extolling the virtues of making up a reality and then repeating it until people start to believe it.
“I play to people’s fantasies,” he wrote in “The Art of the Deal.” “People want to believe that something is the biggest and the greatest and the most spectacular. I call it truthful hyperbole.”
“If you admit defeat, then you will be defeated,” Trump wrote in “Think Big.”
Once he came into the presidency, Trump, unsurprisingly, kept it up.
“Don’t believe the crap you see from these people, the fake news,” Trump told a VFW group in 2018. “What you’re seeing and what you’re reading is not what’s happening.”
Unfortunately, Trump’s blueprint works.
Take the 2020 election. Despite zero evidence of any sort of widespread election fraud, a majority (53%) of Republicans said in a Reuters/Ipsos national poll in late May that President Joe Biden’s victory was “the result of illegal voting or election rigging.” More than 6 in 10 Republicans (61%) agreed with the statement that the election “was stolen from Donald Trump.”
Siloed in news bubbles and social groups that sync up entirely with their own views and “facts,” a large chunk of Republican voters have been convinced that the election was somehow stolen – largely because, well, Trump told them it was.
To take advantage of trust people put in you – as well as their narrow news diet – is, of course, deeply irresponsible. And the opposite of what it means to be a leader.
But for Trump, “winning” is the only goal – and the single measure by which he wants to be judged. Truth (and its consequences) be damned.
The Point: Trump’s willingness to mislead people solely for his own purposes may well be the most dangerous attribute of a man with lots and lots of them.
Witness this line from his July 3 speech in Sarasota, Florida:
“If you say it enough and keep saying it, they’ll start to believe you.”
Trump was talking about alleged disinformation directed at him and other Republicans. But WOW does that quote explain everything you need to know about his approach to the presidency and life.
(Sidebar: One can only hope that Trump was unaware that his quote was a near-replication of this infamous line from Nazi Joseph Goebbels: “If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it.”)
Trump has spent a lifetime – in business and politics – repeating exaggerations, half-truths and outright lies to make himself look good.
The books he wrote prior to politics are littered with quotes extolling the virtues of making up a reality and then repeating it until people start to believe it.
“I play to people’s fantasies,” he wrote in “The Art of the Deal.” “People want to believe that something is the biggest and the greatest and the most spectacular. I call it truthful hyperbole.”
“If you admit defeat, then you will be defeated,” Trump wrote in “Think Big.”
Once he came into the presidency, Trump, unsurprisingly, kept it up.
“Don’t believe the crap you see from these people, the fake news,” Trump told a VFW group in 2018. “What you’re seeing and what you’re reading is not what’s happening.”
Unfortunately, Trump’s blueprint works.
Take the 2020 election. Despite zero evidence of any sort of widespread election fraud, a majority (53%) of Republicans said in a Reuters/Ipsos national poll in late May that President Joe Biden’s victory was “the result of illegal voting or election rigging.” More than 6 in 10 Republicans (61%) agreed with the statement that the election “was stolen from Donald Trump.”
Siloed in news bubbles and social groups that sync up entirely with their own views and “facts,” a large chunk of Republican voters have been convinced that the election was somehow stolen – largely because, well, Trump told them it was.
To take advantage of trust people put in you – as well as their narrow news diet – is, of course, deeply irresponsible. And the opposite of what it means to be a leader.
But for Trump, “winning” is the only goal – and the single measure by which he wants to be judged. Truth (and its consequences) be damned.
The Point: Trump’s willingness to mislead people solely for his own purposes may well be the most dangerous attribute of a man with lots and lots of them.
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Trump’s charitable giving has now become a campaign issue, largely due to a series of Post articles written by David Fahrenthold and his colleagues. Back in April, Fahrenthold and Rosalind S. Helderman reported that they couldn’t find a single cash donation to charity that Trump personally had made over the previous five years. The Trump campaign had provided the newspaper with a list of donations made by the candidate, but many turned out to be gifts-in-kind from Trump’s businesses, such as free rounds of golf at Trump courses donated to charity auctions, and land-conservation agreements to forgo development rights on Trump-owned properties. The only cash donations were from the Donald J. Trump Foundation, the family charity that Trump established in 1988. But the Post also pointed out that Trump hadn’t given any of his own money to the Trump Foundation since 2008—almost all of its funding came from other people, including some of his business associates.
The Post has delivered other revelations. At the end of August, Fahrenthold reported that the Trump Foundation had violated tax laws in 2013 by making a $25,000 political donation to Pam Bondi, the attorney general of Florida. At the time the donation was made, Bondi had been considering whether to launch an investigation of the scandal-plagued Trump University. Democrats accused Trump of having tried to buy off Bondi, but Bondi denied that there was any connection between the campaign donation and her decision not to pursue an investigation. Regardless, charities aren’t allowed to make political donations. Trump’s aides said the payment from the foundation was the result of an administrative error, and that the money was supposed to have come from Trump’s personal account. Earlier this year, the foundation paid a $2,500 penalty to the I.R.S.
(full article online)
www.newyorker.com
The Post has delivered other revelations. At the end of August, Fahrenthold reported that the Trump Foundation had violated tax laws in 2013 by making a $25,000 political donation to Pam Bondi, the attorney general of Florida. At the time the donation was made, Bondi had been considering whether to launch an investigation of the scandal-plagued Trump University. Democrats accused Trump of having tried to buy off Bondi, but Bondi denied that there was any connection between the campaign donation and her decision not to pursue an investigation. Regardless, charities aren’t allowed to make political donations. Trump’s aides said the payment from the foundation was the result of an administrative error, and that the money was supposed to have come from Trump’s personal account. Earlier this year, the foundation paid a $2,500 penalty to the I.R.S.
(full article online)
Trump and the Truth: His Charitable Giving
Trump says he gives away millions through his foundation, but an analysis finds that he hasn’t put up any of his own money since 2008.
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Trump and the Truth
A series of reported essays that examine the untruths that have fuelled Donald Trump’s Presidential campaign.
They don't care. On top of that, they've talked themselves and each other into believing that he is the paragon of virtue, honesty, faith, strength, competence, bravery and patriotism.Trump and the Truth
A series of reported essays that examine the untruths that have fuelled Donald Trump’s Presidential campaign.www.newyorker.com
He's bullet-proof with them. This guy, of all people. I don't know how this happens, but it's happened.
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Trump & Truth
You obviously have not watched this deposition, it’s simply amazing how many people buy into this crap…
[I will be posting what Trump has said in his own words]
The disruptive impacts of Donald Trump's presidency continue to wreak havoc in America and influence politics abroad. Two years after losing the presidency, is his influence behind him or is his MAGA movement still a force to be reckoned with? Steve Paikin discusses this with veteran investigative journalist Bob Woodward.
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CIA Bob?
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January 24, 2023
Trump declared himself the winner of a tournament despite being 600 miles away for half of it.
Donald Trump pulls absolutely insane move at golf tournament
Donald Trump declared himself the winner of a golf tournament at his property in Florida despite missing half of it.
thecomeback.com
One X use believed Trump shot a 67, but questioned the hole count.
“Probably only played 12 holes,” @chefbissell posted. “I don’t understand how anyone believes this guy!
In June, Trump was caught shanking a pitch shot at his Trump National Golf Club in Los Angeles, and one X user brought the video back as a reminder.
One X user posted a shot of Trump shanking a shot, that
Those were just a couple of many similar reactions people had about the former president’s round at the course, which also serves as his summer estate.
This wasn’t the first time a Trump round of golf brought the internet to a boil.
(full article online)
Internet blasts Donald Trump’s claim he shot 67 to win club tourney
Donald Trump posted on Truth Social that he won his club tournament on his home course in Bedminster with a 67. But the internet isn’t buying it.
nypost.com
Donald Trump hit one of the worst shanks ever — and it was caught on video
Donald Trump probably wishes he could have this one back.
nypost.com
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