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That's the key here: The crazies have the microphone. I've chewed on this for a long time, and I don't know how to get it away from them, and that worries me.oh i see the examples. i put those in the extremists on both sides. you see, i also look around and find you. oldlady and several others that while on the "other side" you work to put objectivity and respect to others in as much as your opinions. that's there too. you can't swing a dead cat in a rodeo w/o hitting some clown being an asswhipe.If that's the case, if they really don't like his behaviors, then they're just lying. Look around this board and you'll see a zillion examples of it. Say something about his behavior and they go OFF. That's partisan politics, dishonest to its core.i think it's more they accepted the bad with the good and it wasn't hillary.The problem for Trump and his fans is, they asked for this.Otherwise, this is a very dangerous game that could bring socialism right to the forefront of American politics and the liberty of individuals will be lost.
They cheer Trump when he's the bull in the china shop, when he insults the very media that presents him to the public, when he says and "tweets" things that would embarrass most reasonable adults, when he acts like a spoiled 15-year old kid. They love it. They call this behavior "bluntness", even though it doesn't rise to that level.
Meanwhile, the Regressive Left is loving every minute of it, waiting in the wings, knowing that it probably won't need to change one damn thing about the way it behaves.
If what you warn against comes to fruition, Trump and his fans will be complicit.
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and i don't know too many people who love his bullshit. the last few times i've seen him give speeches the applause was smattering at best and you could see the hurt look on his face.
like i said - he craves attention. quit giving it to him and he's likely to just leave and go elsewhere.
as for the left - they're 100% feeding the machine of hate. i don't believe for a minute they're waiting for trump to do himself in through all this. they're having the time of their life protesting for what is "real" even though they don't know what it is.
Sure, the Left is loving this, they want as much destruction as possible, as soon as possible. And Trump isn't disappointing them.
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that doesn't mean the world is full of clowns, just that they're loud and seem more than they are. in my few days here i just ignored anyone doing the "you're a pussy" shit right off the bat and i just don't see the noise as much.
The Democrats were a different party in the past, the current rendition is not appealing. As an example, if it were, they would have ordered a Special Prosecutor deal with Clintons scandal while they were in power. Their party has changed dramatically in my lifetime, and not for the better. I would love to see them return to a more centralist party rather than the number of far left they have in their ranks.
I think you are confused. Clinton DID have a special prosecutor when he was in office. His name was Ken Starr, he started off investigating a failed land deal, and when that didn't pan out, he ended up investigating whether or not Bill Clinton thinks a blow job counts as sex or not.
Sure. But politics is about image, not substance. Given the nature of the media, this would have been tough enough for Trump. But when he attacked and insulted them, and their very profession, World War III was on, and it's not going anywhere.by the same token, if he's as horrible as people say, they wouldn't need to make things up on a regular basis and call it duty.As I said, the Trumpsters got what they wanted. If he's as wonderful as they think he is, you'll never have to worry about socialism..If socialism leads the day it won't be because of Trump or his supporters, that you can be certain of.
That's the key here: The crazies have the microphone. I've chewed on this for a long time, and I don't know how to get it away from them, and that worries me.oh i see the examples. i put those in the extremists on both sides. you see, i also look around and find you. oldlady and several others that while on the "other side" you work to put objectivity and respect to others in as much as your opinions. that's there too. you can't swing a dead cat in a rodeo w/o hitting some clown being an asswhipe.If that's the case, if they really don't like his behaviors, then they're just lying. Look around this board and you'll see a zillion examples of it. Say something about his behavior and they go OFF. That's partisan politics, dishonest to its core.i think it's more they accepted the bad with the good and it wasn't hillary.The problem for Trump and his fans is, they asked for this.Otherwise, this is a very dangerous game that could bring socialism right to the forefront of American politics and the liberty of individuals will be lost.
They cheer Trump when he's the bull in the china shop, when he insults the very media that presents him to the public, when he says and "tweets" things that would embarrass most reasonable adults, when he acts like a spoiled 15-year old kid. They love it. They call this behavior "bluntness", even though it doesn't rise to that level.
Meanwhile, the Regressive Left is loving every minute of it, waiting in the wings, knowing that it probably won't need to change one damn thing about the way it behaves.
If what you warn against comes to fruition, Trump and his fans will be complicit.
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and i don't know too many people who love his bullshit. the last few times i've seen him give speeches the applause was smattering at best and you could see the hurt look on his face.
like i said - he craves attention. quit giving it to him and he's likely to just leave and go elsewhere.
as for the left - they're 100% feeding the machine of hate. i don't believe for a minute they're waiting for trump to do himself in through all this. they're having the time of their life protesting for what is "real" even though they don't know what it is.
Sure, the Left is loving this, they want as much destruction as possible, as soon as possible. And Trump isn't disappointing them.
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that doesn't mean the world is full of clowns, just that they're loud and seem more than they are. in my few days here i just ignored anyone doing the "you're a pussy" shit right off the bat and i just don't see the noise as much.
You'd think it would be doable: A few brave leaders (political, social, even sports & entertainment) come together and start a movement in the opposite direction from where we're headed. It just ain't happening.
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Again Democrats have 20+ seats to defend in the Senate and the House is almost impossible for the Democrats to win with the way the districts are drawn.
Also please stop with the Nazi nonsense because as much as I hate Trump he is far from being a Nazi!
Because you and I disagree with his political views does not mean he is like Hitler and until he start gassing and baking minorities and gays, well he is far from being a damn Nazi!
Also let me add that Sanders is not Communist either and is a Socialist and yes I know the damn difference between Communistic States like the former USSR and Socialistic States like Norway and Sanders is more like the Norwegian system and far from Stalin or even Trotsky form of Marxism or Communism.
Yeah that freedom of choice and pissing the vote away must annoy the hell out of you, am I correct?
Here's one fact on which (hopefully, who knows) we can all agree: As of this writing, the 2018 elections are a little less than 18 months away.
If you are a GOP congressperson and you think Trump is now irreparably damaged (or worse) -- I know, talk radio won't entertain that possibility, but you have your comfy congressional job to save -- wouldn't it be better to just get this over with, and try to (a) stop the bleeding and (b) try to regain some party momentum for 2018 by dumping the guy?
The numbers say Trump can't be impeached, but that's only if the GOP hangs together. I think we all know a professional politician's first priority is not the country or their constituents, it's re-election.
Isn't it just time to get this over with and try to regain your 2016 mojo before the 2018 elections?
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What is with your incessant sniveling about Trump and the GOP? Like like a school girl that is angry the quarterback won't date her. No one needs the left's approval or permission. The left is out of power so they seek to destroy the right via media and non stop hysteria.Here's one fact on which (hopefully, who knows) we can all agree: As of this writing, the 2018 elections are a little less than 18 months away.
If you are a GOP congressperson and you think Trump is now irreparably damaged (or worse) -- I know, talk radio won't entertain that possibility, but you have your comfy congressional job to save -- wouldn't it be better to just get this over with, and try to (a) stop the bleeding and (b) try to regain some party momentum for 2018 by dumping the guy?
The numbers say Trump can't be impeached, but that's only if the GOP hangs together. I think we all know a professional politician's first priority is not the country or their constituents, it's re-election.
Isn't it just time to get this over with and try to regain your 2016 mojo before the 2018 elections?
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Sure. But politics is about image, not substance. Given the nature of the media, this would have been tough enough for Trump. But when he attacked and insulted them, and their very profession, World War III was on, and it's not going anywhere.by the same token, if he's as horrible as people say, they wouldn't need to make things up on a regular basis and call it duty.As I said, the Trumpsters got what they wanted. If he's as wonderful as they think he is, you'll never have to worry about socialism..If socialism leads the day it won't be because of Trump or his supporters, that you can be certain of.
So that's just baked in now. How the hell does he change that?
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it was about image. now w/hillary's image toast, trump toast - and the all too easy ability for people to swallow any lie against someone they hate - image isn't what it used to be. sooner or later people tire of things. anything. and they find something to collect around.Sure. But politics is about image, not substance. Given the nature of the media, this would have been tough enough for Trump. But when he attacked and insulted them, and their very profession, World War III was on, and it's not going anywhere.by the same token, if he's as horrible as people say, they wouldn't need to make things up on a regular basis and call it duty.As I said, the Trumpsters got what they wanted. If he's as wonderful as they think he is, you'll never have to worry about socialism..If socialism leads the day it won't be because of Trump or his supporters, that you can be certain of.
So that's just baked in now. How the hell does he change that?
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Here's one fact on which (hopefully, who knows) we can all agree: As of this writing, the 2018 elections are a little less than 18 months away.
If you are a GOP congressperson and you think Trump is now irreparably damaged (or worse) -- I know, talk radio won't entertain that possibility, but you have your comfy congressional job to save -- wouldn't it be better to just get this over with, and try to (a) stop the bleeding and (b) try to regain some party momentum for 2018 by dumping the guy?
The numbers say Trump can't be impeached, but that's only if the GOP hangs together. I think we all know a professional politician's first priority is not the country or their constituents, it's re-election.
Isn't it just time to get this over with and try to regain your 2016 mojo before the 2018 elections?
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So, you want the GOP to cave to propaganda?
As I said, the highest priority for a politician is being re-elected, and that's the context of my question. Trump's behavior since the day he announced has made him the easiest target of all time, and congressional Republicans know it.Here's one fact on which (hopefully, who knows) we can all agree: As of this writing, the 2018 elections are a little less than 18 months away.
If you are a GOP congressperson and you think Trump is now irreparably damaged (or worse) -- I know, talk radio won't entertain that possibility, but you have your comfy congressional job to save -- wouldn't it be better to just get this over with, and try to (a) stop the bleeding and (b) try to regain some party momentum for 2018 by dumping the guy?
The numbers say Trump can't be impeached, but that's only if the GOP hangs together. I think we all know a professional politician's first priority is not the country or their constituents, it's re-election.
Isn't it just time to get this over with and try to regain your 2016 mojo before the 2018 elections?
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So, you want the GOP to cave to propaganda?
What I was hoping to accomplish was an interesting conversation by civil, reasonable adults.What is with your incessant sniveling about Trump and the GOP? Like like a school girl that is angry the quarterback won't date her. No one needs the left's approval or permission. The left is out of power so they seek to destroy the right via media and non stop hysteria.Here's one fact on which (hopefully, who knows) we can all agree: As of this writing, the 2018 elections are a little less than 18 months away.
If you are a GOP congressperson and you think Trump is now irreparably damaged (or worse) -- I know, talk radio won't entertain that possibility, but you have your comfy congressional job to save -- wouldn't it be better to just get this over with, and try to (a) stop the bleeding and (b) try to regain some party momentum for 2018 by dumping the guy?
The numbers say Trump can't be impeached, but that's only if the GOP hangs together. I think we all know a professional politician's first priority is not the country or their constituents, it's re-election.
Isn't it just time to get this over with and try to regain your 2016 mojo before the 2018 elections?
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There are good things happening that don't get air time. Instead it's Russia Comey Russia Comey ad nauseum. I imagine they will run on facts and hopefully not let themselves get dragged into the leftist dung pile. what are you hoping to accomplish?
“More than 10 centrist Republicans over the past 48 hours have criticized Trump for reportedly sharing classified information with Russian officials or allegedly trying to quash an FBI investigation.”As I said, the highest priority for a politician is being re-elected, and that's the context of my question. Trump's behavior since the day he announced has made him the easiest target of all time, and congressional Republicans know it.
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He hasn't stopped the investigations of who's leaking and who's at the bottom of the DNC and media corruption to rig the election. There's been no evidence Russia was involved after many months so what's he got to worry about?Sure. But politics is about image, not substance. Given the nature of the media, this would have been tough enough for Trump. But when he attacked and insulted them, and their very profession, World War III was on, and it's not going anywhere.by the same token, if he's as horrible as people say, they wouldn't need to make things up on a regular basis and call it duty.As I said, the Trumpsters got what they wanted. If he's as wonderful as they think he is, you'll never have to worry about socialism..If socialism leads the day it won't be because of Trump or his supporters, that you can be certain of.
So that's just baked in now. How the hell does he change that?
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1. Get his act together (staffing changes, messaging discipline and building an equitable partnership with GOP'ers in Congress) with respect to how he manages his Administration since as Jack Welsh put it "so far his management has been crappy", he needs to stop dealing self inflicted wounds on his own Administration.
2. Let the ongoing investigations proceed and go where they will and hope that exculpatory evidence emerges; he's got the bully pulpit and the emergence of exculpatory evidence will give him the opportunity to annihilate the credibility of the media that already has him convicted based on allegations alone.
Will any of that happen? Who knows? It's certainly doable and other Presidents that have found themselves in similar predicaments have managed to pull it off, we'll see if the Donald has the political acumen to pull it off.
unfortunate but true.As I said, the highest priority for a politician is being re-elected, and that's the context of my question. Trump's behavior since the day he announced has made him the easiest target of all time, and congressional Republicans know it.Here's one fact on which (hopefully, who knows) we can all agree: As of this writing, the 2018 elections are a little less than 18 months away.
If you are a GOP congressperson and you think Trump is now irreparably damaged (or worse) -- I know, talk radio won't entertain that possibility, but you have your comfy congressional job to save -- wouldn't it be better to just get this over with, and try to (a) stop the bleeding and (b) try to regain some party momentum for 2018 by dumping the guy?
The numbers say Trump can't be impeached, but that's only if the GOP hangs together. I think we all know a professional politician's first priority is not the country or their constituents, it's re-election.
Isn't it just time to get this over with and try to regain your 2016 mojo before the 2018 elections?
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So, you want the GOP to cave to propaganda?
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At this point I would be stunned to see #1 happen. I just don't think he has the capacity.Sure. But politics is about image, not substance. Given the nature of the media, this would have been tough enough for Trump. But when he attacked and insulted them, and their very profession, World War III was on, and it's not going anywhere.by the same token, if he's as horrible as people say, they wouldn't need to make things up on a regular basis and call it duty.As I said, the Trumpsters got what they wanted. If he's as wonderful as they think he is, you'll never have to worry about socialism..If socialism leads the day it won't be because of Trump or his supporters, that you can be certain of.
So that's just baked in now. How the hell does he change that?
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1. Get his act together (staffing changes, messaging discipline and building an equitable partnership with GOP'ers in Congress) with respect to how he manages his Administration since as Jack Welsh put it "so far his management has been crappy", he needs to stop dealing self inflicted wounds on his own Administration.
2. Let the ongoing investigations proceed and go where they will and hope that exculpatory evidence emerges; he's got the bully pulpit and the emergence of exculpatory evidence will give him the opportunity to annihilate the credibility of the media that already has him convicted based on allegations alone.
Will any of that happen? Who knows? It's certainly doable and other Presidents that have found themselves in similar predicaments have managed to pull it off, we'll see if the Donald has the political acumen to pull it off.
these more anonymous mad people?“More than 10 centrist Republicans over the past 48 hours have criticized Trump for reportedly sharing classified information with Russian officials or allegedly trying to quash an FBI investigation.”As I said, the highest priority for a politician is being re-elected, and that's the context of my question. Trump's behavior since the day he announced has made him the easiest target of all time, and congressional Republicans know it.
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