Oldestyle
Diamond Member
Oh...so you work on the "guilty unless you can prove you're innocent" theory, Lesh?
I suppose you think that if nobody sees a tree fall in the forest it's still standing?
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Trump Suddenly Loves 'Sleazy' FBI Agents, Insists He Always 'Has Their Backs'
- Thread starter Lakhota
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I suppose you think that if nobody sees a tree fall in the forest it's still standing?
Oldestyle
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You need to prove intent. Good luck doing that, Sparky!According to you counselor?
Lesh
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Now you’re just flailingYou need to prove intent. Good luck doing that, Sparky!
Oldestyle
Diamond Member
What...you didn't know that both of the other statutes you want to charge Trump with require "intent"?Now you’re just flailing
To be blunt, Lesh...your ass would get laughed out a real court of law presided over by a real judge!
Lesh
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The intent was made clear when he signed off that all docs marked classified had been returned and they had not.What...you didn't know that both of the other statutes you want to charge Trump with require "intent"?
To be blunt, Lesh...your ass would get laughed out a real court of law presided over by a real judge!
It was further made clear when he recently claimed that they were "his"
FAIL
Oldestyle
Diamond Member
Once again we're back to the question of whether or not Trump had the Constitutional authority to declassify documents. It it's his belief that he did then the documents in question are no longer classified in his eyes. If he doesn't view them as classified then where is his "intent" to do anything improper with classified material? Like I said...good luck proving intent in a court of law!The intent was made clear when he signed off that all docs marked classified had been returned and they had not.
It was further made clear when he recently claimed that they were "his"
FAIL
Oldestyle
Diamond Member
Here's the real problem for the DOJ going forward with this. How can you exonerate Hillary Clinton by claiming she wasn't "sophisticated" enough with how Washington works to know that she was breaking the law and then turn around six years later and attempt to charge someone who really is not that sophisticated about how Washington works? Trump isn't a life long politician and he hasn't spent decades in Washington. The Clintons WERE and yet Bill Clinton wasn't charged when Sandy Berger attempted to destroy top secret documents nor was Hillary charged when she was caught red handed destroying her emails and Blackberries! Once you've set the precedent NOT to prosecute the Clintons...how do you turn around and prosecute Trump for doing far less? Equal protection under the law? It's a glaring example of not following that tenet of American law and doing so solely for political reasons!
Lesh
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Once again we’re taking the in circles.Once again we're back to the question of whether or not Trump had the Constitutional authority to declassify documents. It it's his belief that he did then the documents in question are no longer classified in his eyes. If he doesn't view them as classified then where is his "intent" to do anything improper with classified material? Like I said...good luck proving intent in a court of law!
No evidence he declassified anything
And no requirement for the docs to be classified regarding the statutes in question
Aldo Raine
Gold Member
Exactly, I mean you just can't make this shit up!!! The lengths the cult will go to to justify dear leader is astonishing.So in other words, his words were nothing but hyperbole. His advisors were his also.
MAGA
Oldestyle
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He said he did. Do you have any proof that wasn't the case? We're still in America...right? You know...the place where prosecutors have to PROVE guilt?Once again we’re taking the in circles.
No evidence he declassified anything
And no requirement for the docs to be classified regarding the statutes in question
Lesh
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He said he did… and no one witnessed it?He said he did. Do you have any proof that wasn't the case? We're still in America...right? You know...the place where prosecutors have to PROVE guilt?
Ohhh
Oldestyle
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So Lesh...what do you think about the news that broke today that the Biden White House DID know about the raid in advance! Amazing how Joe Biden and his Press Secretary can lie right to the camera, huh? How do you think our two idiots will spin this latest scandal?He said he did… and no one witnessed it?
Ohhh
Oldestyle
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"Look, I’ll say this. You know, the President and the White House learned about this FBI search from public reports. We learned just like the American public did yesterday, and we did not have advance notice of this activity." Karine Jean-Pierre August 9th, 2022.
I knew that was a crock of shit even as it was coming out of her mouth. Now it turns out that the Acting Archivist at the National Archives went to the White House to request that the DOJ get the documents from Mar A Lago! So one of two things are happening here...either Joe and Karine ARE lying through their teeth to Americans...or the people who are really running the White House didn't bother to tell EITHER of them that they were about to sic the FBI on the former President of the United States by raiding his home!
I knew that was a crock of shit even as it was coming out of her mouth. Now it turns out that the Acting Archivist at the National Archives went to the White House to request that the DOJ get the documents from Mar A Lago! So one of two things are happening here...either Joe and Karine ARE lying through their teeth to Americans...or the people who are really running the White House didn't bother to tell EITHER of them that they were about to sic the FBI on the former President of the United States by raiding his home!
Oldestyle
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Bullshit! Biden knew there was going to be a raid. He lied. Like usual.He knew the documents were on Mar a Lago. Hell “I” knew that.
He knew the FBI and NARA would trying to get the docs back.
What he didn't know was that there would be a raid
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Biden did nothing. He doesn't even know that last time he took a shit.Bullshit! Biden knew there was going to be a raid. He lied. Like usual.
Oldestyle
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Of course he does, Leweman! It's probably still in his Depends!Biden did nothing. He doesn't even know that last time he took a shit.
Lesh
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Where did they say that?Bullshit! Biden knew there was going to be a raid. He lied. Like usual.
They didn't
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