Trump seizes credit for Afghan withdrawal

[schmidlap]

Repeat after me OP,

schmidlap is desperate and seeks security because he's a Demonicrat.​

schmidlap is an idiot because he can't tell the difference between the foundation & carrying out tasks.​

schmidlap thinks all you have to do to win a baseball championship is put together a team before pre-season.​

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Your ad hominems aside, can you explain why Trump, having repeatedly, vehemently, for years, insisted that the United States should withdraw all troops from Afghanistan did not bother to withdraw all troops from Afghanistan during the four years he had the power to make good on his oft-stated commitment to do so?

(Please try to honestly address the issue rather than sniveling because you don't want to address it.)

 

[eddiew37]

Trump withdrew the invitation to negotiate for peace at Camp David because the Taliban breached the conditions of the agreement, not because of bi-partisan opposition.

Biden ignored the agreement conditions by abandoning bases, equipment, weapons and munitions in a chickenshit total withdrawal in the middle of the night, thus inviting a massive and immediate revival of the Taliban that stranded tens of thousands of American citizens and Afghan allies behind enemy lines.

You are just another stupid liberal POS.

Take your head out of Trumps butt

 

[EMH]

Didn’t take long to blame the Jews again. Too funny. You likely blame the Jews for COVID too

Tell us what is funny...

The Taliban in control
W making "Osama" " not a priority"
W flipping off TNA and helping Taliban win afghan civil war
Jew army Rangers shooting pat Tillman and lying that AQ did it


You are a Zionist traitor, a coward, a liar, and an enemy of the US.

 

[asaratis]

Take your head out of Trumps butt

You just can't handle the truth.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Tell us what is funny...

The Taliban in control
W making "Osama" " not a priority"
W flipping off TNA and helping Taliban win afghan civil war
Jew army Rangers shooting pat Tillman and lying that AQ did it


You are a Zionist traitor, a coward, a liar, and an enemy of the US.

It’s funny that Jews are who you blame for all the worlds ills. You are mentally ill.

 

[WTH_Progs?]

Your ad hominems aside, can you explain why Trump, having repeatedly, vehemently, for years, insisted that the United States should withdraw all troops from Afghanistan did not bother to withdraw all troops from Afghanistan during the four years he had the power to make good on his oft-stated commitment to do so?

(Please try to honestly address the issue rather than sniveling because you don't want to address it.)

What's because it takes planning & Xiden fucked up the execution.

How'd I do?

 

[eddiew37]

What's because it takes planning & Xiden fucked up the execution.

How'd I do?

Was Biden handcuffed by Trump’s Taliban deal in Doha?​

By MATTHEW LEE and ERIC TUCKERAugust 19, 2021

FILE - In this Feb. 29, 2020, file photo, U.S. peace envoy Zalmay Khalilzad, left, and Mullah Abdul Ghani Baradar, the Taliban group's top political leader shack hands after signing a peace agreement between Taliban and U.S. officials in Doha, Qatar. President Joe Biden and his national security team say the Trump administration tied their hands when it came to the U.S. withdrawal from Afghanistan. The argument that President Donald Trump's February 2020 deal with the Taliban set the stage for the weekend chaos that unfolded in Kabul has some merit. But, it's far from the full story. (AP Photo/Hussein Sayed, File)
WASHINGTON (AP) — As President Donald Trump’s administration signed a peace deal with the Taliban in February 2020, he optimistically proclaimed that “we think we’ll be successful in the end.” His secretary of state, Mike Pompeo, asserted that the administration was “seizing the best opportunity for peace in a generation.”
Eighteen months later, President Joe Biden is pointing to the agreement signed in Doha, Qatar, as he tries to deflect blame for the Taliban overrunning Afghanistan in a blitz. He says it bound him to withdraw U.S. troops, setting the stage for the chaos engulfing the country.
But Biden can go only so far in claiming the agreement boxed him in. It had an escape clause: The U.S. could have withdrawn from the accord if Afghan peace talks failed. They did, but Biden chose to stay in it, although he delayed the complete pullout from May to September.
Chris Miller, acting defense secretary in the final months of the Trump administration, chafed at the idea that Biden was handcuffed by the agreement.
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“If he thought the deal was bad, he could have renegotiated. He had plenty of opportunity to do that if he so desired,” Miller, a top Pentagon counterterrorism official at the time the Doha deal was signed, said in an interview.
Renegotiating, though, would have been difficult. Biden would have had little leverage. He, like Trump, wanted U.S. troops out of Afghanistan. Pulling out of the agreement might have forced him to send thousands more back in.
He made that point Monday, saying in a televised address from the White House that he would not commit to sending more American troops to fight for Afghanistan’s future while also harkening back to the Trump deal to suggest that the withdrawal path was predetermined by his predecessor.
“The choice I had to make, as your president, was either to follow through on that agreement or be prepared to go back to fighting the Taliban in the middle of the spring fighting season,” Biden said.
The Taliban takeover, far swifter than officials from either administration had envisioned, has prompted questions from even some Trump-era officials about whether the terms and conditions of the deal — and the decisions that followed after — did enough to protect Afghanistan once the U.S. military pulled out.
The historic deal was always high-wire diplomacy, requiring a degree of trust in the Taliban as a potential peace partner and inked despite skepticism from war-weary Afghans who feared losing authority in any power-sharing agreement.
“The Doha agreement was a very weak agreement, and the U.S. should have gained more concessions from the Taliban,” said Lisa Curtis, an Afghanistan expert who served during the Trump administration as the National Security Council’s senior director for South and Central Asia.
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She called it “wishful thinking” to believe that the Taliban might be interested in lasting peace. The resulting agreement, she said, was heavily weighted toward the Taliban, contributed to undermining Afghan President Ashraf Ghani — he fled the country Sunday and is now in the United Arab Emirates — and facilitated the release of 5,000 Taliban prisoners without a commensurate concession from the Taliban.
“They wanted U.S. forces out, and they wanted to take over the country militarily, and they believed that they could do that,” Curtis said of the Taliban. “That was just crystal clear.”
The agreement called for the U.S. to bring down its forces to 8,600 from 13,000 over the following three to four months, with the remaining U.S. forces withdrawing in 14 months, or by May 1.
Biden, in an ABC interview that aired Thursday, said he was confronted with that deadline soon after taking office: “Do I say we’re staying? And do you think we would not have to put a hell of a lot more troops?” Even without Trump’s deal, Biden said he “would’ve tried to figure out how to withdraw those troops” and that “there is no good time to leave Afghanistan.”
The agreement stipulated commitments the Taliban were expected to make to prevent terrorism, including obligations to renounce al-Qaida and prevent that group or others from using Afghan soil to plot attacks on the U.S. or its allies. Though the agreement bound the Taliban to halt attacks on U.S. and coalition forces, it did not explicitly require them to expel al-Qaida or to stop attacks on the Afghan military.
The agreement provided significant legitimacy to the Taliban, whose leaders met with Pompeo, the first secretary of state to have such interactions. There were also discussions of them coming to the U.S. to meet with Trump.
Stlll, Trump spoke cautiously about the deal’s prospects for success, warning of military firepower if “bad things happen.” Pompeo similarly said the U.S. was “realistic” and “restrained,” determined to avoid endless wars.
U.S. officials made clear at the time that the agreement was conditions-based and the failure of intra-Afghan peace talks to reach a negotiated settlement would have nullified the requirement to withdraw.
One day before the Doha deal, a top aide to chief U.S. negotiator Zalmay Khalilzad said the agreement was not irreversible, and “there is no obligation for the United States to withdraw troops if the Afghan parties are unable to reach agreement or if the Taliban show bad faith” during negotiations.
Those negotiations were intended to begin within a month of the deal being signed but were delayed amid disputes between the Taliban and the Afghan government over prisoner releases. Amid fits and starts, the negotiations had not produced any outcome by the time Biden announced his withdrawal decision in April. Nor have they done so since.
Miller said it was the “right approach” and necessary to force Ghani into negotiations. He said the Doha deal was always supposed to be “phase one” of the process, with the next part being the U.S. using its leverage to have Ghani negotiate on a power-sharing deal with the Taliban.
“Obviously, he was not jazzed by that, but he was going to do it — or he was going to be removed,” Miller said. “We were going to put some serious pressure on him to make him cut a deal with the Taliban.”
In hindsight, though, said Curtis, the U.S. should not have entered the Doha talks “unless we were prepared to represent the Afghan government’s interests. It was an unfair negotiation, because nobody was looking out for the interests of the Afghan government.”
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[badbob85037]

Trump, by his own modest estimation, just a couple of months ago, acknowledged that it was his policy that he forced upon Biden:

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“I started the process. All the troops are coming home.
They couldn’t stop the process. They couldn’t stop the process.
They wanted to, but it was very tough to stop the process!”​

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Trump's UN Ambassador Nikki Haley tweeted Wednesday, “To have our Generals say that they are depending on diplomacy with the Taliban is an unbelievable scenario. Negotiating with the Taliban is like dealing with the devil!”​

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Trump had briefly invited the Taliban to Camp David in 2019 ... before reversing course amid a bipartisan outcry.​

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Regarding Trump’s Doha Agreement with the Taliban, Trump’s former national security adviser, H.R. McMaster: “Our secretary of state [Mike Pompeo] signed a surrender agreement with the Taliban…This collapse goes back to the capitulation agreement of 2020. The Taliban didn’t defeat us. We defeated ourselves.”​

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Lisa Curtis, an expert on South and Central Asia who served on Trump’s National Security Council for four years, including when the Taliban deal was signed: The Doha agreement was a very weak agreement, and the U.S. should have gained more concessions from the Taliban.”​

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She said the deal was too heavily weighted in the Taliban’s favor and undermined Afghan President Ashraf Ghani, who ultimately fled the country this weekend… She cited the deal forcing Ghani to release 5,000 Taliban prisoners who likely played a role in taking over the country.“Really, somebody has to look at that and why that happened,” Curtis said.​

[https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-officials-scramble-for-distance-from-his-taliban-deal/ar-AANvywb?ocid=BingNews]​

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The Trump administration negotiated – and bragged about – an agreement with the Taliban to withdraw U.S. forces from the county by May 1, 2021. Trump’s defense secretary at the time, Mark Esper: Trump ‘undermined’ that deal by pushing for US forces to leave Afghanistan without the Taliban meeting the underlying conditions.​

Trump's normally fawning Fox News had exposed how desperate the Loser was to appease the Taliban:

Another historic Camp David summit was not to be.​

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We didn’t learn until late Saturday that President Trump planned to meet with Taliban leaders at the Maryland retreat to finalize a peace deal for Afghanistan. That news came through presidential tweets announcing that the secret session had been canceled, in the wake of a Taliban attack whose victims included an American soldier.​

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Simply put, it is hard for many Americans to stomach that the Taliban, who harbored Osama bin Laden in the run-up to 9/11, would be given a civilized welcome by a president of the United States in those storied cabins--especially with the anniversary of that terrible day approaching.​

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But what rankles most of all is the venue. The Vietnam peace talks were held in Paris. The two summits with Kim Jong-un were in Singapore and Hanoi. The summit meeting with Vladimir Putin was in Helsinki. To invite the terroristic Taliban to Camp David, whatever the negotiating details, is really hard to swallow.​

[Why Trump is taking flak for inviting the Taliban to Camp David]​

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“I started the process. All the troops are coming home.
They couldn’t stop the process. They couldn’t stop the process.
They wanted to, but it was very tough to stop the process!”​

Come on! Your stupid is showing again. I thought we had already talked about this.

 

[badbob85037]

You appear to be upset because I posted cogent, accurate quotations from Trump and others who served in the Trump administration.

Trump seizes credit for Afghan withdrawal​

I kept thinking about your headlines and now it's my turn.

Biden Craps Himself​

Again. But tries to blame Trump When President Trump herd Biden's comment he had this to say "Those that find it lay with in it." Joe stinked.

 

[struth]

"Ways to appease the Taliban"


Funny, Fox News had NO PROBLEM when W flipped off TNA. W could have allied with TNA and wiped out Taliban and given control of afghan to TNA. That was the ongoing afghan civil war when we arrived.

W sold out

W allowed Taliban to win the afghan civil war

W actually flipped off TNA with our troops right there helping TNA.



Israel did not like TNA, armed and funded by Iran. Zionist traitor David frum cooked up the famous "axis of evil" speech, which ended our alliance with TNA and TNA started shooting at us, because "our president" called them EVIL.....


So if the question is why does Taliban control afghan, the best, most accurate answer is because


W is the WORST TRAITOR in American history

W hasn’t been president for like 13 years…he had zero control over Xiden’s surrender to the terrorist and current hostage crisis

by your logic we should blame FDR for ever accepting the agreement SA to go in and produce oil…had he not done that then some of the islamic nuts wouldn’t want us dead

 

[schmidlap]

I thought we had already talked about this.

You persist in your impotence, unable to confront and refute the cited legitimate sources that I provide, clinging to the lies that comport with your ideological dogma.

Politics isn't the weird worship of one dude.

Trump seizes credit for Afghan withdrawal

I keep thinking about your headlies and now it's my turn...

Your fake headline conspicuously lacks the documentation of my real one:

Trump TAKES CREDIT for withdrawal of troops from Afghanistan in June 2021​

Trump TAKES CREDIT for withdrawal of troops ​

from Afghanistan in June 2021​

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[EMH]

W hasn’t been president for like 13 years…he had zero control over Xiden’s surrender to the terrorist and current hostage crisis

by your logic we should blame FDR for ever accepting the agreement SA to go in and produce oil…had he not done that then some of the islamic nuts wouldn’t want us dead

W is not the only Zionist traitor in America who deserves justice...

 

[harmonica]

schmidlap as usual, your OP is nonsensical --TDS

 

[struth]

W is not the only Zionist traitor in America who deserves justice...

ooooooooook

 

[harmonica]

You persist in your impotence, unable to confront and refute the cited legitimate sources that I provide, clinging to the lies that comport with your ideological dogma.

Politics isn't the weird worship of one dude.

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Your fake headline conspicuously lacks the documentation of my real one:

Trump TAKES CREDIT for withdrawal of troops from Afghanistan in June 2021​

Trump TAKES CREDIT for withdrawal of troops ​

from Afghanistan in June 2021​

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legitimate sources!!!!???? HAHAHHAHAHAH MSN!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAH