- Jul 5, 2012
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What's "W"'s excuse?
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What's "W"'s excuse?
Jesse had his hean slammed on the mat too many times. He's a conspiracy whack job. Sure you can make anyone say anything, the point is it has to be done intelligently, something beyond Jesse's scope.I think that anybody who advocates for water boarding should try it first. Jesse Ventura tells the story how he tried it and considered it torture. Clip below. Sez he'd have dick cheney confessing to the sharon tate murders after water boarding. Nice clip where he calls bush 2 the worst prez. I say yeah, after clinton and obama. Got hopes for Trump, although he maybe should try waterboarding before advocating for it. It is torture, which is illegal by international standards and it is unreliable.
Jesse had his hean slammed on the mat too many times. He's a conspiracy whack job. Sure you can make anyone say anything, the point is it has to be done intelligently, something beyond Jesse's scope.I think that anybody who advocates for water boarding should try it first. Jesse Ventura tells the story how he tried it and considered it torture. Clip below. Sez he'd have dick cheney confessing to the sharon tate murders after water boarding. Nice clip where he calls bush 2 the worst prez. I say yeah, after clinton and obama. Got hopes for Trump, although he maybe should try waterboarding before advocating for it. It is torture, which is illegal by international standards and it is unreliable.
I say if a leader advocates for torture, he should give it a try first. And the constitution does say no cruel and unusual punishment. Making someone confess and give you facts you want to hear is fairly easy. America should be better than that. And remember, these middle east wars we're in is all of our own making because of oil. It really does belong to the arabs to begin with. Remember Washington's advice, trade with everyone, don't get involved in foreign entanglements, etc.
Jesse had his hean slammed on the mat too many times. He's a conspiracy whack job. Sure you can make anyone say anything, the point is it has to be done intelligently, something beyond Jesse's scope.I think that anybody who advocates for water boarding should try it first. Jesse Ventura tells the story how he tried it and considered it torture. Clip below. Sez he'd have dick cheney confessing to the sharon tate murders after water boarding. Nice clip where he calls bush 2 the worst prez. I say yeah, after clinton and obama. Got hopes for Trump, although he maybe should try waterboarding before advocating for it. It is torture, which is illegal by international standards and it is unreliable.
I say if a leader advocates for torture, he should give it a try first. And the constitution does say no cruel and unusual punishment. Making someone confess and give you facts you want to hear is fairly easy. America should be better than that. And remember, these middle east wars we're in is all of our own making because of oil. It really does belong to the arabs to begin with. Remember Washington's advice, trade with everyone, don't get involved in foreign entanglements, etc.
The constitution doesn't apply to foreign born terrorists we are at war with. Or are you going to argue they have the right to vote in our elections too?
The wars in the Middle East aren't about oil, they are about Islam. Muslims killing each other, Muslims killing Hindu, Muslims killing Buddhists, Muslims killing Jews, Muslims killing Christians. All because their religion tells them to. They've been doing this since the religion's creation.
B.B.C. just showed an interview with Trump where he states the above and will discuss with various advisers re-instituting "waterboarding", etc.
Or, that work is torture.
Bullshit. We could have taken Iraq's oil. And probably should have, that's what's funding ISIS.We opened pandora's box by interfering in other country's affairs all over the globe since WW2. The wars in the middle east are all about the oil that we wanted. Not actually we, but the oil companies that buy off politicians. The muslim problem we have to deal with now is our own making. I know about their history and idealogy, and I am for not allowing any more to come here as a matter of security of the nation.
privileged snob who paints himself orange every day, had everything handed to him all his life, has zero military experience and has never even held a job in his life.
RLMAO!!!'Classique'...non sequitur.Jesus couldn't run a country.Jesus wants people tortured?
privileged snob who paints himself orange every day, had everything handed to him all his life, has zero military experience and has never even held a job in his life.
Except for the orange part -- that's Obama to a tee.
Zackly. First thing I thought was, who would know better about criminal and ineffective interrogation methods than a 70 year old privileged snob who paints himself orange every day, had everything handed to him all his life, has zero military experience and has never even held a job in his life.
On the other hand he does like to flood the Twitterworld at three in the morning and that's a kind of torture so maybe in a sense he's right.
B.B.C. just showed an interview with Trump where he states the above and will discuss with various advisers re-instituting "waterboarding", etc.
Yea? So what?
You have a problem with terrorists potentially getting waterboarded by trained interrogators?
You're losing it.privileged snob who paints himself orange every day, had everything handed to him all his life, has zero military experience and has never even held a job in his life.
Except for the orange part -- that's Obama to a tee.
Ummmm.... really. O'bama had everything handed to him all his life did he? His dad handed him a hundred million bucks and a firsthand education on how to scam the government while banning black people from his apartments? Do tell.
They do that already now. Even worse. International law doesn't apply to terrorists.B.B.C. just showed an interview with Trump where he states the above and will discuss with various advisers re-instituting "waterboarding", etc.
Yea? So what?
You have a problem with terrorists potentially getting waterboarded by trained interrogators?
It opens the door to legitimate armies waterboarding (or worse) our soldiers captured on the battlefield.
They do that already now. Even worse. International law doesn't apply to terrorists.B.B.C. just showed an interview with Trump where he states the above and will discuss with various advisers re-instituting "waterboarding", etc.
Yea? So what?
You have a problem with terrorists potentially getting waterboarded by trained interrogators?
It opens the door to legitimate armies waterboarding (or worse) our soldiers captured on the battlefield.
We aren't at war with legitimate armies.They do that already now. Even worse. International law doesn't apply to terrorists.B.B.C. just showed an interview with Trump where he states the above and will discuss with various advisers re-instituting "waterboarding", etc.
Yea? So what?
You have a problem with terrorists potentially getting waterboarded by trained interrogators?
It opens the door to legitimate armies waterboarding (or worse) our soldiers captured on the battlefield.
Yes…that is why I wrote “legitimate armies”.
We aren't at war with legitimate armies.They do that already now. Even worse. International law doesn't apply to terrorists.B.B.C. just showed an interview with Trump where he states the above and will discuss with various advisers re-instituting "waterboarding", etc.
Yea? So what?
You have a problem with terrorists potentially getting waterboarded by trained interrogators?
It opens the door to legitimate armies waterboarding (or worse) our soldiers captured on the battlefield.
Yes…that is why I wrote “legitimate armies”.
Venezuela huh.Dems say socialism works
“These days, the American dream is more apt to be realized in South America, in places such as Ecuador, Venezuela and Argentina, where incomes are actually more equal today than they are in the land of Horatio Alger.” Bernie, 2013