Trump perp-walk ... A Rough Estimate of How Many Government Officials Didn’t Blow the Whistle

[Care4all]

Donald Trump is done for and it is now just a matter of time.

If impeachment doesn't expunge Donald Trump, the 2020 election will expunge Trump and a lot of corrupt GOP lawmakers. It's taking out the trash time.

There is also an implication that VP Mike Pence is a party to the cone of silence which will eliminate him from taking over if Trump is expunged by impeachment.

There are possibly as many as 22 people who are complicit in Donald Trump's crimes by their silence.

Donald Trump will spend the rest of his life mired in litigation if he is not jailed first.

A Rough Estimate of How Many Government Officials Didn’t Blow the Whistle

A Rough Estimate of How Many Government Officials Didn’t Blow the Whistle
By AARON MAK
SEPT 26, 20192:20 PM

On Thursday, Congress released the anonymous whistleblower’s complaint concerning the potentially corrupt nature of Donald Trump’s July phone call with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky and the circumstances surrounding it. The whistleblower alleges that Trump sought to pressure Zelensky into investigating Joe Biden and his son Hunter—which, given that Biden is currently the front-runner in the Democratic presidential primary, means that Trump solicited “interference from a foreign country in the 2020 U.S. election.”
One of the most astonishing details in the complaint is the fact that, according to the whistleblower, many officials in the White House and the State Department were privy to the call and the circumstances surrounding it, and apparently didn’t ring the alarm. The whistleblower notes that some of the officials voiced their concerns in private, and that others sought to “lock down” records of the call, which suggests they sensed that Trump’s conduct was improper.
We collected all references to other individuals in an attempt to conduct an extremely rough tally of the number of officials who, according to the complaint, likely had knowledge of the alleged misconduct and declined to speak up. In cases where “multiple” people were referenced, we conservatively accounted for two individuals. In cases where “several” people were referenced, we accounted for three.
• “Over the past four months, more than half a dozen U.S. officials have informed me of various facts related to this effort.” ~6 people
• “Multiple White House officials with direct knowledge of the call informed me that, after an initial exchange of pleasantries, the President used the remainder of the call to advance his personal interests.” ~2 people
• “Based on my understanding, there were approximately a dozen White House officials who listened to the call – a mixture of policy officials and duty officers in the White House Situation Room, as is customary.” ~12 people
• “In addition to the White House personnel, I was told that a State Department official, Mr. T. Ulrich Brechbuhl, also listened in on the call.” 1 person
• “I was not the only non-White House official to receive a readout of the call. Based on my understanding, multiple State Department and Intelligence Community officials were also briefed on the contents of the call as outlined above.” ~2 people
• “In the days following the phone call, I learned from multiple U.S. officials that senior White House officials had intervened to “lock down” all records of the phone call, especially the official word-for-word transcript of the call that was produced – as is customary – by the White House Situation Room. This set of actions underscored to me that White House officials understood the gravity of what had transpired in the call.” ~2 people
• “I also learned from multiple US. officials that, on or about 2 August, Mr. Giuliani reportedly traveled to Madrid to meet with one of President’s advisers, Andriy Yermak. The US. officials characterized this meeting, which was not reported publicly at the time, as a ‘direct follow-up’ to the President’s call with Mr. about the ‘cases’ they had discussed.” ~2 people
• “Separately, multiple US. officials told me that Mr. Giuliani had reportedly privately reached out to a variety of other Zelenskyy advisers, including Chief of Staff Andriy Bohdan and Acting Chairman of the Security Service of Ukraine Ivan Bakanov. I do not know whether those officials met or spoke with Mr. Giuliani, but I was told separately by multiple US. officials that Mr. Yermak and Mr. Bakanov intended to travel to Washington in mid-August.” ~2 people
• “Around the same time, I also learned from a US official that associates of Mr. Giuliani were trying to make contact with the incoming Zelenskyy team.” 1 person
• “However, several US officials told me that, in fact, her [former Ambassador to the Ukraine Marie Louise Yovanovitch] tour was curtailed because of pressure stemming from Mr. Lutsenko’s allegations. Mr. Giuliani subsequently stated in an interview with a Ukrainian journalist published on 14 May that Ambassador Yovanovitch was ‘removed … because she was part of the efforts against the President.’ ” ~3 people
• “Starting in mid-May, I heard from multiple US officials that they were deeply concerned by what they viewed as Mr. Giuliani’s circumvention of national security decisionmaking processes to engage with Ukrainian officials and relay messages back and forth between Kyiv and the President.” ~2 people
• “State Department officials, including Ambassadors Volker and Sondland, had spoken with Mr. Giuliani in an attempt to ‘contain the damage’ to US. national security.” 2 people
• “During this same timeframe, multiple US. officials told me that the Ukrainian leadership was led to believe that a meeting or phone call between the President and President Zelenskyy would depend on whether Zelenskyy showed willingness to ‘play ball’ on the issues that had been publicly aired by Mr. Lutsenko and Mr. Giuliani.” ~2 people
Adding up all of the definitive references, it looks like there may have been 22 officials with knowledge of the call and its aftermath. Including all of the additional references to multiple or several people, it’s possible the total is closer to 40 individuals. But the first reference in the complaint—that the whistleblower has talked to “more than half a dozen U.S. officials” over the last four months—seems like it ought to be interpreted as a top-line summary, meaning that it’s likely each subsequent reference to an official, or “multiple” or “several” officials, falls into that group of around 6 people. If that’s the case, the estimate would be closer to 22.
It’s certainly possible that there is some overlap in these estimates since the whistleblower only identifies three individuals by name. But it’s also possible that the total number of government workers with knowledge of these events is higher, as well, if the references to “multiple” and “several” are more than two and three. Either way, it’s a sobering look at how many people likely knew something was amiss and did nothing.

Oh what law did he break?

The Constitution of the United States. There is a clause in the Constitution which specficially bars candidates from seek and receiving any election assistance from foreign governments.

What did trump receive ?? I’m confused

Cooperation from the Ukrainian government in investigating his opponents. It should be noted that in order for Trump to violate this clause of the Constitution, he doesn't need to "receive" anything. Just the "ask" is illegal. That he dangled the military aid paid for by the American people as his "bait", is actually illegal.

There is so much WRONG with what Trump did, that no one can reasonably vote that his actions were valid or legal. Impeachment is a slam dunk.

And a crime whether it is explicit soliciting or IMPLICIT soliciting....

Also campaign finance laws were broken, regardless of the DOJ's initial response to squash it....

And broke his oath of office, and the constitution's good faith clause...

 

[blastoff]

Donald Trump is done for and it is now just a matter of time.

If impeachment doesn't expunge Donald Trump, the 2020 election will expunge Trump and a lot of corrupt GOP lawmakers. It's taking out the trash time.

There is also an implication that VP Mike Pence is a party to the cone of silence which will eliminate him from taking over if Trump is expunged by impeachment.

There are possibly as many as 22 people who are complicit in Donald Trump's crimes by their silence.

Donald Trump will spend the rest of his life mired in litigation if he is not jailed first.

A Rough Estimate of How Many Government Officials Didn’t Blow the Whistle

A Rough Estimate of How Many Government Officials Didn’t Blow the Whistle
By AARON MAK
SEPT 26, 20192:20 PM

On Thursday, Congress released the anonymous whistleblower’s complaint concerning the potentially corrupt nature of Donald Trump’s July phone call with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky and the circumstances surrounding it. The whistleblower alleges that Trump sought to pressure Zelensky into investigating Joe Biden and his son Hunter—which, given that Biden is currently the front-runner in the Democratic presidential primary, means that Trump solicited “interference from a foreign country in the 2020 U.S. election.”
One of the most astonishing details in the complaint is the fact that, according to the whistleblower, many officials in the White House and the State Department were privy to the call and the circumstances surrounding it, and apparently didn’t ring the alarm. The whistleblower notes that some of the officials voiced their concerns in private, and that others sought to “lock down” records of the call, which suggests they sensed that Trump’s conduct was improper.
We collected all references to other individuals in an attempt to conduct an extremely rough tally of the number of officials who, according to the complaint, likely had knowledge of the alleged misconduct and declined to speak up. In cases where “multiple” people were referenced, we conservatively accounted for two individuals. In cases where “several” people were referenced, we accounted for three.
• “Over the past four months, more than half a dozen U.S. officials have informed me of various facts related to this effort.” ~6 people
• “Multiple White House officials with direct knowledge of the call informed me that, after an initial exchange of pleasantries, the President used the remainder of the call to advance his personal interests.” ~2 people
• “Based on my understanding, there were approximately a dozen White House officials who listened to the call – a mixture of policy officials and duty officers in the White House Situation Room, as is customary.” ~12 people
• “In addition to the White House personnel, I was told that a State Department official, Mr. T. Ulrich Brechbuhl, also listened in on the call.” 1 person
• “I was not the only non-White House official to receive a readout of the call. Based on my understanding, multiple State Department and Intelligence Community officials were also briefed on the contents of the call as outlined above.” ~2 people
• “In the days following the phone call, I learned from multiple U.S. officials that senior White House officials had intervened to “lock down” all records of the phone call, especially the official word-for-word transcript of the call that was produced – as is customary – by the White House Situation Room. This set of actions underscored to me that White House officials understood the gravity of what had transpired in the call.” ~2 people
• “I also learned from multiple US. officials that, on or about 2 August, Mr. Giuliani reportedly traveled to Madrid to meet with one of President’s advisers, Andriy Yermak. The US. officials characterized this meeting, which was not reported publicly at the time, as a ‘direct follow-up’ to the President’s call with Mr. about the ‘cases’ they had discussed.” ~2 people
• “Separately, multiple US. officials told me that Mr. Giuliani had reportedly privately reached out to a variety of other Zelenskyy advisers, including Chief of Staff Andriy Bohdan and Acting Chairman of the Security Service of Ukraine Ivan Bakanov. I do not know whether those officials met or spoke with Mr. Giuliani, but I was told separately by multiple US. officials that Mr. Yermak and Mr. Bakanov intended to travel to Washington in mid-August.” ~2 people
• “Around the same time, I also learned from a US official that associates of Mr. Giuliani were trying to make contact with the incoming Zelenskyy team.” 1 person
• “However, several US officials told me that, in fact, her [former Ambassador to the Ukraine Marie Louise Yovanovitch] tour was curtailed because of pressure stemming from Mr. Lutsenko’s allegations. Mr. Giuliani subsequently stated in an interview with a Ukrainian journalist published on 14 May that Ambassador Yovanovitch was ‘removed … because she was part of the efforts against the President.’ ” ~3 people
• “Starting in mid-May, I heard from multiple US officials that they were deeply concerned by what they viewed as Mr. Giuliani’s circumvention of national security decisionmaking processes to engage with Ukrainian officials and relay messages back and forth between Kyiv and the President.” ~2 people
• “State Department officials, including Ambassadors Volker and Sondland, had spoken with Mr. Giuliani in an attempt to ‘contain the damage’ to US. national security.” 2 people
• “During this same timeframe, multiple US. officials told me that the Ukrainian leadership was led to believe that a meeting or phone call between the President and President Zelenskyy would depend on whether Zelenskyy showed willingness to ‘play ball’ on the issues that had been publicly aired by Mr. Lutsenko and Mr. Giuliani.” ~2 people
Adding up all of the definitive references, it looks like there may have been 22 officials with knowledge of the call and its aftermath. Including all of the additional references to multiple or several people, it’s possible the total is closer to 40 individuals. But the first reference in the complaint—that the whistleblower has talked to “more than half a dozen U.S. officials” over the last four months—seems like it ought to be interpreted as a top-line summary, meaning that it’s likely each subsequent reference to an official, or “multiple” or “several” officials, falls into that group of around 6 people. If that’s the case, the estimate would be closer to 22.
It’s certainly possible that there is some overlap in these estimates since the whistleblower only identifies three individuals by name. But it’s also possible that the total number of government workers with knowledge of these events is higher, as well, if the references to “multiple” and “several” are more than two and three. Either way, it’s a sobering look at how many people likely knew something was amiss and did nothing.

Someone please toss this thread in the IT shirt pile. Thanks.

The dumpster is full of your rants.

Congrats for properly interpreting my typo.

Nonetheless, your IT shit pile is approaching staggering heights but there must be some world record you traitorous clowns are pursuing.

 

[Jitss617]

Donald Trump is done for and it is now just a matter of time.

If impeachment doesn't expunge Donald Trump, the 2020 election will expunge Trump and a lot of corrupt GOP lawmakers. It's taking out the trash time.

There is also an implication that VP Mike Pence is a party to the cone of silence which will eliminate him from taking over if Trump is expunged by impeachment.

There are possibly as many as 22 people who are complicit in Donald Trump's crimes by their silence.

Donald Trump will spend the rest of his life mired in litigation if he is not jailed first.

A Rough Estimate of How Many Government Officials Didn’t Blow the Whistle

Oh what law did he break?

The Constitution of the United States. There is a clause in the Constitution which specficially bars candidates from seek and receiving any election assistance from foreign governments.

What did trump receive ?? I’m confused

Cooperation from the Ukrainian government in investigating his opponents. It should be noted that in order for Trump to violate this clause of the Constitution, he doesn't need to "receive" anything. Just the "ask" is illegal. That he dangled the military aid paid for by the American people as his "bait", is actually illegal.

There is so much WRONG with what Trump did, that no one can reasonably vote that his actions were valid or legal. Impeachment is a slam dunk.

And a crime whether it is explicit soliciting or IMPLICIT soliciting....

Also campaign finance laws were broken, regardless of the DOJ's initial response to squash it....

And broke his oath of office, and the constitution's good faith clause...

Campaign? Huh trump said US not me

 

[BlindBoo]

The magic number in the Senate is what? 19, 20?

 

[bendog]

The magic number in the Senate is what? 19, 20?

Never get there. But the down side is Moscow Mitch will force a vote and make vulnerable dems commit which will kill them.

 

[BlindBoo]

The magic number in the Senate is what? 19, 20?

Never get there. But the down side is Moscow Mitch will force a vote and make vulnerable dems commit which will kill them.

It's a pretty damn high bar.

 

[nat4900]

This is it! We got him now! He asked someone to look into democrat corruption and that’s not fair!

If THAT is all you got from this week's revelations, "congrats"......you're a true Trumpo ass-kisser....LOL

 

[Denizen]

Donald Trump is done for and it is now just a matter of time.

If impeachment doesn't expunge Donald Trump, the 2020 election will expunge Trump and a lot of corrupt GOP lawmakers. It's taking out the trash time.

There is also an implication that VP Mike Pence is a party to the cone of silence which will eliminate him from taking over if Trump is expunged by impeachment.

There are possibly as many as 22 people who are complicit in Donald Trump's crimes by their silence.

Donald Trump will spend the rest of his life mired in litigation if he is not jailed first.

A Rough Estimate of How Many Government Officials Didn’t Blow the Whistle

A Rough Estimate of How Many Government Officials Didn’t Blow the Whistle
By AARON MAK
SEPT 26, 20192:20 PM

On Thursday, Congress released the anonymous whistleblower’s complaint concerning the potentially corrupt nature of Donald Trump’s July phone call with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky and the circumstances surrounding it. The whistleblower alleges that Trump sought to pressure Zelensky into investigating Joe Biden and his son Hunter—which, given that Biden is currently the front-runner in the Democratic presidential primary, means that Trump solicited “interference from a foreign country in the 2020 U.S. election.”
One of the most astonishing details in the complaint is the fact that, according to the whistleblower, many officials in the White House and the State Department were privy to the call and the circumstances surrounding it, and apparently didn’t ring the alarm. The whistleblower notes that some of the officials voiced their concerns in private, and that others sought to “lock down” records of the call, which suggests they sensed that Trump’s conduct was improper.
We collected all references to other individuals in an attempt to conduct an extremely rough tally of the number of officials who, according to the complaint, likely had knowledge of the alleged misconduct and declined to speak up. In cases where “multiple” people were referenced, we conservatively accounted for two individuals. In cases where “several” people were referenced, we accounted for three.
• “Over the past four months, more than half a dozen U.S. officials have informed me of various facts related to this effort.” ~6 people
• “Multiple White House officials with direct knowledge of the call informed me that, after an initial exchange of pleasantries, the President used the remainder of the call to advance his personal interests.” ~2 people
• “Based on my understanding, there were approximately a dozen White House officials who listened to the call – a mixture of policy officials and duty officers in the White House Situation Room, as is customary.” ~12 people
• “In addition to the White House personnel, I was told that a State Department official, Mr. T. Ulrich Brechbuhl, also listened in on the call.” 1 person
• “I was not the only non-White House official to receive a readout of the call. Based on my understanding, multiple State Department and Intelligence Community officials were also briefed on the contents of the call as outlined above.” ~2 people
• “In the days following the phone call, I learned from multiple U.S. officials that senior White House officials had intervened to “lock down” all records of the phone call, especially the official word-for-word transcript of the call that was produced – as is customary – by the White House Situation Room. This set of actions underscored to me that White House officials understood the gravity of what had transpired in the call.” ~2 people
• “I also learned from multiple US. officials that, on or about 2 August, Mr. Giuliani reportedly traveled to Madrid to meet with one of President’s advisers, Andriy Yermak. The US. officials characterized this meeting, which was not reported publicly at the time, as a ‘direct follow-up’ to the President’s call with Mr. about the ‘cases’ they had discussed.” ~2 people
• “Separately, multiple US. officials told me that Mr. Giuliani had reportedly privately reached out to a variety of other Zelenskyy advisers, including Chief of Staff Andriy Bohdan and Acting Chairman of the Security Service of Ukraine Ivan Bakanov. I do not know whether those officials met or spoke with Mr. Giuliani, but I was told separately by multiple US. officials that Mr. Yermak and Mr. Bakanov intended to travel to Washington in mid-August.” ~2 people
• “Around the same time, I also learned from a US official that associates of Mr. Giuliani were trying to make contact with the incoming Zelenskyy team.” 1 person
• “However, several US officials told me that, in fact, her [former Ambassador to the Ukraine Marie Louise Yovanovitch] tour was curtailed because of pressure stemming from Mr. Lutsenko’s allegations. Mr. Giuliani subsequently stated in an interview with a Ukrainian journalist published on 14 May that Ambassador Yovanovitch was ‘removed … because she was part of the efforts against the President.’ ” ~3 people
• “Starting in mid-May, I heard from multiple US officials that they were deeply concerned by what they viewed as Mr. Giuliani’s circumvention of national security decisionmaking processes to engage with Ukrainian officials and relay messages back and forth between Kyiv and the President.” ~2 people
• “State Department officials, including Ambassadors Volker and Sondland, had spoken with Mr. Giuliani in an attempt to ‘contain the damage’ to US. national security.” 2 people
• “During this same timeframe, multiple US. officials told me that the Ukrainian leadership was led to believe that a meeting or phone call between the President and President Zelenskyy would depend on whether Zelenskyy showed willingness to ‘play ball’ on the issues that had been publicly aired by Mr. Lutsenko and Mr. Giuliani.” ~2 people
Adding up all of the definitive references, it looks like there may have been 22 officials with knowledge of the call and its aftermath. Including all of the additional references to multiple or several people, it’s possible the total is closer to 40 individuals. But the first reference in the complaint—that the whistleblower has talked to “more than half a dozen U.S. officials” over the last four months—seems like it ought to be interpreted as a top-line summary, meaning that it’s likely each subsequent reference to an official, or “multiple” or “several” officials, falls into that group of around 6 people. If that’s the case, the estimate would be closer to 22.
It’s certainly possible that there is some overlap in these estimates since the whistleblower only identifies three individuals by name. But it’s also possible that the total number of government workers with knowledge of these events is higher, as well, if the references to “multiple” and “several” are more than two and three. Either way, it’s a sobering look at how many people likely knew something was amiss and did nothing.

Someone please toss this thread in the IT shirt pile. Thanks.

The dumpster is full of your rants.

Congrats for properly interpreting my typo.

Nonetheless, your IT shit pile is approaching staggering heights but there must be some world record you traitorous clowns are pursuing.

Your shitpile record is safe. Your mind is more prolific than Donald Trump's gut.

 

[lennypartiv]

You have an edited notes version of Trump's conversation with the Ukrainian president a week after Trump had put a hold on the congressional approved funds to fight off Russia.
the actual transcript, word for word on the conversation was so concerning that his staff lawyers had it removed from the normal channels, did not distribute it to the normal department heads and Illegally put on to the governments compartmentalized TOP SECRET server so that no one else can see it.... IT WAS SO DAMNING.
And even in the short version, you have an implicit "favor" that Trump wants from the Ukraine, of going after his political rival and son.... for Trump's own personal gain.... thus using his personal lawyer Giuliani who once claimed was in the Ukraine to get what he called OPPO Rsearch on Trump's political rival.....

It's another nothing burger.