Trump Lifts Trophy hunt import ban

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    The ban has been lifted on a "case by case" basis, which means the feds are probably going to make sure the Trophy hunters did everything by the book.


    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...-a-trophy-hunting-ban/?utm_term=.ea533bcb81de

    Strictly regulated trophy hunting of past breeding age animals is probably the best source of income for management programs, and thusly the best chance we have to keep these animals alive as a species.

    It also gives locals incentives to protect the animals from poachers.
     
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    Finnely, policy not based on a Disney movie.
     
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    The Liberal outrage against trophy hunting is as usual, misguided and ill-informed. Without trophy hunting in Africa, all you would have is poaching with little resources to fight back. With trophy hunting you have millions of dollars being put into Wildlife conservancy through donations and the permit fees. The meat from the trophy hunt is usually donated to local tribes who dearly need the meat.
     
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    And by culling the older non-breeding animals you allow the younger ones more space, more food and more opportunity to breed.

    To me I think the biggest thing people against this forget is that in the wild a natural death is usually not pleasant. Animals don't just doze off and die in their sleep. They either slow down enough for predators and/or scavengers to take them out, or they become unable to move and slowly starve or die of thirst, unless some scavengers or predators come along and then they die from option 1.
     
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    In Africa you have poaching with little resources to fight back.

    Trophy hunting doesn't change this. The money ends up in the pockets of corrupt officials and nothing more. No more money gets spent on dealing with poaching because there are trophy hunters.

    Trophy hunting in Africa: 'Hunt operators are conservationists first, and hunters second'

    "The benefits hunters cite are disputed. The League Against Cruel Sports say less than 5% of tour fees go to the government for wildlife conservation. And trophy hunting does damage populations, say conservationists. Researchers who tagged leopards in a reserve in Kwazulu Natal in South Africa found 23 of the 26 leopards tracked between 2002 and 2005 were killed through hunting and poaching for bushmeat."

    Is Trophy Hunting Helping Save African Elephants?

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    Fees from trophy hunting of elephants that are supposed to help local communities—and elephants—often don’t. "

    "But a closer look at trophy hunting in Africa shows that the industry employs few people and that the money from hunt fees that trickles down to needy villagers is minimal. Government corruption can be a factor. In Zimbabwe, for instance, individuals associated with President Robert Mugabe have seized lands in lucrative hunting areas. Trophy hunting isn’t stopping poaching, especially in countries that have a poor record of protecting their wildlife."
     
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    for once in my life I agree with frigidguy.........:113:
     
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    I can do teh links as well:

    What if we banned trophy hunting in Africa? - Conservation

     
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    Wrong. With wildlife tourism, each animal gets "used" over and over. It gets killed only once. Waste of natural resources.



    That's the opposite of "trophy hunting". When was the last time you saw a write up about a hunter killing old or sick animals? FACT is, trophy hunters want the youngest, biggest and so on. That's the whole point of trophy hunting - the dead animal makes up for the lack of balls on the "hunter".

    "Hunter" in quotes because there's usually very little "hunting" involved.

    Gotta congratulate you on your idea that since dying in nature is unpleasant, we should just shoot them. That's about as lame as it gets.


    Exactly true.

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    And they pay far less for the privilege to just take pictures.

    And how many photographers want to take pictures of older animals at the end of their life?

    Legal trophy hunters only get to kill animals designated by the regulatory organization setting up the hunts. The conservation people pick the older non-breeding animals.

    And considering they can't hunt these animals normally, getting to bag an older one is something they have to settle for. And they do settle for it, and pay lots of money for it.
     
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    Trophy hunting changes it all. First off, the meat gos to the native folks who sold the tag for whichever animal is shot by the hunter. Then there is the cash money they get from selling the permit, with that money, they can buy their game wardens guns to deal with poachers instead of big sticks, bows and spears. Or you just stick to the Disney way which is to fly over a herd and shoot them from a helicopter and just leave the carcus lay whare it fell or just poison them. Either way, the poachers win as all they need do is collect what they want.
     
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