Trump is the greatest dealmaker. Believe him.

[McRocket]

Once again, Trump is nothing but a con man.

He talks about making deals - and yet America is in the longest government shutdown in it's history.

Yet Trump had TWO years to get his wall - couldn't do it.

He said over and over and over that Mexico would pay for it - couldn't do it.


He is not a deal maker - he is a con man who got almost everything he has from his daddy or being a bully.

 

[Pete7469]

 

[odanny]

 

[BookShaka]

Once again, Trump is nothing but a con man.

He talks about making deals - and yet America is in the longest government shutdown in it's history.

Yet Trump had TWO years to get his wall - couldn't do it.

He said over and over and over that Mexico would pay for it - couldn't do it.


He is not a deal maker - he is a con man who got almost everything he has from his daddy or being a bully.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ.yet another wall/shutdown thread.

Anyway you all could just add the nonsense to an existing thread? Pretty please?

 

[Oddball]

Change the names to Hillary, Bernie, Jeb, Kasich, or practically every one of the other authoritarian slugs that have run for the office over the last 50 years, and it reads exactly the same.

You prog moonbats would be well served to stop acting like the problem begins and ends with Cheeto and republicans.

 

[my2¢]

Trump and Republicans really don't want the wall yet. They don't want to lose that 2020 campaign issue. But beware, when the time comes the plan will be executed just as published:

Pay for the Wall ​

Introduction: The provision of the Patriot Act, Section 326 - the "know your customer" provision, compelling financial institutions to demand identity documents before opening accounts or conducting financial transactions is a fundamental element of the outline below. That section authorized the executive branch to issue detailed regulations on the subject, found at 31 CFR 130.120-121. It's an easy decision for Mexico: make a one-time payment of $5-10 billion to ensure that $24 billion continues to flow into their country year after year. There are several ways to compel Mexico to pay for the wall including the following:

https://assets.donaldjtrump.com/Pay_for_the_Wall.pdf

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Then after that's done we'll see his healthcare plan that'll earn him a ticker-tape parade.

 

[edward37]

Once again, Trump is nothing but a con man.

He talks about making deals - and yet America is in the longest government shutdown in it's history.

Yet Trump had TWO years to get his wall - couldn't do it.

He said over and over and over that Mexico would pay for it - couldn't do it.


He is not a deal maker - he is a con man who got almost everything he has from his daddy or being a bully.

Trump has conjured a crisis out of thin air. That should worry us all.
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Watching the struggle over funding for a border wall, I am struck by the way in which, in one sense, President Trump has already achieved success. He has been able to conjure up a crisis out of thin air, elevate this manufactured emergency to national attention, paralyze the government and perhaps even invoke warlike authority and bypass Congress. He may still fail, but it should worry us that a president — any president — can do what Trump has done.
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Let’s be clear: There is no crisis. The number of undocumented immigrants in the United States has been declining for a decade. The number of people caught trying to sneak across the southern border has been on a downward trend for almost 20 years and is lower than it was in 1973.
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As has often been pointed out, far more people are coming to the U.S. legally and then overstaying their visas than are crossing the southern border illegally. But it’s important to put these numbers in context. More than 52 million foreigners entered the U.S. legally in fiscal year 2017. Of this cohort, 98.7 percent left on time and in accordance with their visas. A large portion of those remaining left after a brief overstay, and the best government estimate is that maybe 0.8 percent of those who entered the country in 2017 had stayed on by mid-2018.
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As for terrorism, the Cato Institute has found that, from 1975 to 2017, “there have been zero people murdered or injured in terror attacks committed by illegal border crossers on U.S. soil.”
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As for drugs, the greatest danger comes from fentanyl and fentanyl-like substances, which are at the heart of the opioid crisis. Most of this comes from China, either shipped directly to the United States or smuggled through Canada or Mexico. Trump has addressed the root of this problem by pressing the Chinese government to crack down on fentanyl exports, a far more effective strategy than building a physical barrier along the Mexican border.
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Even the Drug Enforcement Administration acknowledged in a report last year that while the southern border is the conduit for most of the heroin entering the United States, the drug typically comes through legal points of entry, hidden in cars or mixed in with other goods in tractor-trailers. In other words, a wall would do little to stanch the flow.
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And yet, the power of the presidency is such that Trump has been able to place this issue center-stage, shut down the government, force television networks to run an error-ridden, scaremongering Oval Office address, and now perhaps invoke emergency powers. This sounds like something that would be done by Presidents Vladimir Putin, Recep Tayyip Erdogan or Abdel Fatah al-Sissi, not the head of the world’s leading constitutional republic.
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When the U.S. government has created this sense of emergency and crisis in the past, it has almost always been to frighten people, expand presidential powers and muzzle opposition. From the Alien and Sedition Acts to the Red Scare to warnings about Saddam Hussein’s arsenal, the United States has experienced periods of paranoia and foolishness. We look back on them and recognize that the problems were not nearly as grave, the enemy was not nearly as strong and the United States was actually far more secure. The actions taken — suspending civil rights, interning U.S. citizens and noncitizens of Japanese descent, taking the nation to war — were almost always terrible mistakes, often with disastrous long-term consequences.
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And yet, presidential powers have kept expanding. Modern media culture has made it easier for presidents to set the agenda, because the White House is a central and perpetual point of focus and now receives far more attention than it ever had. Trump has managed to use this reality and turn good news into bad, turn security into danger and almost single-handedly fabricate a national crisis where there is none.
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This whole episode highlights a problem that has become apparent in these past two years. The U.S. president has too many powers, formal and informal. This was not intended by the founders, who made Congress the dominant branch of government, and it is not how the country has been governed for much of its history. But over the past nine decades, the presidency has grown in formal and informal authority.
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I have been an advocate of a strong executive for most of my life. I don’t much like how Congress operates. I now realize that my views were premised on the assumption that the president would operate within the bounds of laws, norms and ethics. I now believe that an urgent task for the next few years is for Congress to write laws that explicitly limit and check the powers of the president. I would take polarization over Putinism any day.
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[Oddball]

And yet, presidential powers have kept expanding. Modern media culture has made it easier for presidents to set the agenda, because the White House is a central and perpetual point of focus and now receives far more attention than it ever had. Trump has managed to use this reality and turn good news into bad, turn security into danger and almost single-handedly fabricate a national crisis where there is none.
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This whole episode highlights a problem that has become apparent in these past two years. The U.S. president has too many powers, formal and informal. This was not intended by the founders, who made Congress the dominant branch of government, and it is not how the country has been governed for much of its history. But over the past nine decades, the presidency has grown in formal and informal authority.

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You pretty much nailed it up to that point....Pretending that this problem begins and ends with the Cheeto and republicans will keep you mired in your two-party delusion....The problem that you accurately described has been going on for generations, if not a century or more.

Time to put on your big boy pants, and come to the realization that your favored team is every bit as much to blame for this quagmire of shit as republicans are....Until such a time, you're just another infinitesimal hack in an infinitely long line of them.

I will, however, give you a B- in your workmanlike attempt at the pace-and-lead technique.

 

[TheDude]

Trump’s list: 289 accomplishments in just 20 months, ‘relentless’ promise-keeping

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

"Trump has conjured a crisis out of thin air. That should worry us all."

Exactly.

And conjuring a crisis out of thin air is what third-world tinpot dictators do.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Once again, Trump is nothing but a con man.

He talks about making deals - and yet America is in the longest government shutdown in it's history.

Yet Trump had TWO years to get his wall - couldn't do it.

He said over and over and over that Mexico would pay for it - couldn't do it.


He is not a deal maker - he is a con man who got almost everything he has from his daddy or being a bully.

Why is he holding a book that he did not even write?

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Trump’s list: 289 accomplishments in just 20 months, ‘relentless’ promise-keeping

Your 2nd bullet point is bullshit so I quit reading your list after that...

try again.

 

[eagle1462010]

 

[eagle1462010]

More like a deal breaker..............Paris Accord........bye bye
Iran BS deal...........bye bye.......
TPP...........bye bye......
Remove Assad.......bye bye
ROE's in Syria .........bye bye.
Abusive Regulations.........bye bye
Higher taxes...........bye bye.
Catch and Release............bye bye

OBAMA'S LEGACY.............BYE BYE

 

[eagle1462010]

 

[TheDude]

Trump’s list: 289 accomplishments in just 20 months, ‘relentless’ promise-keeping

Your 2nd bullet point is bullshit so I quit reading your list after that...

try again.

No doubt there are some stretches, but only a prog would deny Trump's MANY accomplishments. Incidentally, 3% may not be BS. It's probably close, the last quarter aint in yet.....The average for the first three quarters is 3.3%. Then again, you can't measure a POTUS' affect on GDP.