Trump Has Tied Himself To The One Source Of Energy Is Never, Never Coming Back

[Toddsterpatriot]

Nuclear is the only stable and environmentally friendly energy source. It's why the left hate it.

Stable and environmentally friendly? Really? Ever hear of Three Mile Island? How about Chernobyl? Ever heard of the Fukushima Nuclear Plant?

Yeah............tell me again how stable and environmentally friendly nuclear power is.

And then, there is the question of what to do with the nuclear waste. Here in Amarillo, they are trying to work out a deal to build a nuclear dump site just outside of Amarillo, next to Bushland.

People here are pissed about it.

Ever hear of Three Mile Island?

I've heard of it. How many people died?

How about Chernobyl?

You know what's a really stupid idea? Building a reactor using graphite as a moderator.
You know what's even dumber than that? Building that reactor with no containment structure.
Those fucking Commies sure liked to cut corners.

Ever heard of the Fukushima Nuclear Plant?

Building in an area vulnerable to tidal waves and then putting all your emergency generators on the bottom floor probably isn't the best idea.

 

[theHawk]

Ah, the solar and wind scam is still going on. Yea, I'm sure there is a cheap way to get FREE energy and big evil corporations are conspiring to not make mega bucks off it.

We'll have fusion reactors in a hundred hears easily, and this whole "renewable energy" crap will die a glorious death. The only question is how will progressives and globalists try to control the population.

 

[Bush92]

The future looks so much cleaner.

There’s a reason that Donald Trump didn’t have a crowd of wind power workers standing behind him at his rallies, and it goes beyond just his disdain for windmills off the coast of his Scottish golf course. The reason is that anyone who knows how to build or service wind power was out building and servicing wind power. It’s not just the fastest growing segment of America’s energy picture, it’s the fastest growing occupation, period.

The fastest-growing occupation in the United States — by a long shot, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics — might surprise you: wind turbine technician. …

In 2016, for the first time, more than 100,000 people in the United States were employed in some manner by the wind industry, according to an annual report released Wednesday by the American Wind Energy Association.

But Trump lined up coal miners. Why? First because Trump’s anti-regulatory bent was beloved of coal mine operators who expect to increase their profit per ton by using cheaper practices requiring less labor. Second, because … they make great props. Coal miners are the go-to occupation when it comes to dangerous, underappreciated labor. They also happen to be in a failing industry that’s in a steep decline on its way to extinction, so they’re always available.

Bloomberg has put together an article that contains a series of tables and graphics to show why coal is simply doomed.

Wind and solar are about to become unstoppable, natural gas and oil production are approaching their peak, and electric cars and batteries for the grid are waiting to take over. This is the world Donald Trump inherited as U.S. president. And yet his energy plan is to cut regulations to resuscitate the one sector that’s never coming back: coal.



One thing the Bloomberg article shows is just how much good news there is on the energy front. Renewables aren’t just becoming more common, economies of scale are continuing to drive down costs, which drives up the market, which drives down cost, which has driven renewables to the tipping point.

Unsubsidized wind and solar are beginning to outcompete coal and natural gas in an ever-widening circle of countries.

With coal, it doesn’t matter if the cost drops, because there’s no where else to burn the coal. Coal isn’t an end in itself. It goes into a generator at a coal-fired steam plant. Even if someone started producing 100 percent more coal right now, or cut the price significantly, there would be no new, ready market.

Wind and solar are generators in themselves. They can join the grid incrementally. That small scale, incremental nature is a big part of what’s helped vault natural gas ahead of coal, but it’s even more true of wind and solar. They can come in one field, one rooftop at a time. It’s no wonder that traditional suppliers are working so hard to pass laws that restrict the ease of adding small-scale wind and solar to the grid, because both are at the point where they could roll the market, with every gain leading to the next.

The other good news in the Bloomberg report—carbon emissions in the United States fell 23 perent during the Obama administration. Part of that was the cleaner mix of sources, but it was also a simple fall in demand as those mean old LED lights, flat-screen TVs, and higher efficiency appliances simply cut demand. The US is already halfway to the goals set in the Paris agreement.

The end result is truly amazing.

Power is getting cleaner and cheaper at the same time we are needing less power. That’s putting pressure on the market to get cheaper still. And increasingly the only source that can compete at the prices the market is demanding is … wind and solar.

Meanwhile, someone is going to have to explain to the people Donald Trump promised a comeback why it’s never going to happen.

Donald Trump has tied himself to the one form of energy that's never—never, never—coming back

Windmills are manufactured in China. Fuck them.

 

[jon_berzerk]

The future looks so much cleaner.

There’s a reason that Donald Trump didn’t have a crowd of wind power workers standing behind him at his rallies, and it goes beyond just his disdain for windmills off the coast of his Scottish golf course. The reason is that anyone who knows how to build or service wind power was out building and servicing wind power. It’s not just the fastest growing segment of America’s energy picture, it’s the fastest growing occupation, period.

The fastest-growing occupation in the United States — by a long shot, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics — might surprise you: wind turbine technician. …

In 2016, for the first time, more than 100,000 people in the United States were employed in some manner by the wind industry, according to an annual report released Wednesday by the American Wind Energy Association.

But Trump lined up coal miners. Why? First because Trump’s anti-regulatory bent was beloved of coal mine operators who expect to increase their profit per ton by using cheaper practices requiring less labor. Second, because … they make great props. Coal miners are the go-to occupation when it comes to dangerous, underappreciated labor. They also happen to be in a failing industry that’s in a steep decline on its way to extinction, so they’re always available.

Bloomberg has put together an article that contains a series of tables and graphics to show why coal is simply doomed.

Wind and solar are about to become unstoppable, natural gas and oil production are approaching their peak, and electric cars and batteries for the grid are waiting to take over. This is the world Donald Trump inherited as U.S. president. And yet his energy plan is to cut regulations to resuscitate the one sector that’s never coming back: coal.



One thing the Bloomberg article shows is just how much good news there is on the energy front. Renewables aren’t just becoming more common, economies of scale are continuing to drive down costs, which drives up the market, which drives down cost, which has driven renewables to the tipping point.

Unsubsidized wind and solar are beginning to outcompete coal and natural gas in an ever-widening circle of countries.

With coal, it doesn’t matter if the cost drops, because there’s no where else to burn the coal. Coal isn’t an end in itself. It goes into a generator at a coal-fired steam plant. Even if someone started producing 100 percent more coal right now, or cut the price significantly, there would be no new, ready market.

Wind and solar are generators in themselves. They can join the grid incrementally. That small scale, incremental nature is a big part of what’s helped vault natural gas ahead of coal, but it’s even more true of wind and solar. They can come in one field, one rooftop at a time. It’s no wonder that traditional suppliers are working so hard to pass laws that restrict the ease of adding small-scale wind and solar to the grid, because both are at the point where they could roll the market, with every gain leading to the next.

The other good news in the Bloomberg report—carbon emissions in the United States fell 23 perent during the Obama administration. Part of that was the cleaner mix of sources, but it was also a simple fall in demand as those mean old LED lights, flat-screen TVs, and higher efficiency appliances simply cut demand. The US is already halfway to the goals set in the Paris agreement.

The end result is truly amazing.

Power is getting cleaner and cheaper at the same time we are needing less power. That’s putting pressure on the market to get cheaper still. And increasingly the only source that can compete at the prices the market is demanding is … wind and solar.

Meanwhile, someone is going to have to explain to the people Donald Trump promised a comeback why it’s never going to happen.

Donald Trump has tied himself to the one form of energy that's never—never, never—coming back

Your limited scope of understanding power and trade is glaring. You look at our economy and think that is everything. What a foolish approach that is and a fair amount of ego as well.

Trump just agreed to sell China TWO MILLION SIX HUNDRED THOUSAND TONS of coal to China PER MONTH! China gets well over SEVENTY PERCENT of its power from coal. The coal jobs are NOW back and we are selling to the second LARGEST economy in the world!

That brings our trade - numbers down and our profit numbers up. ONLY AN IDIOT would fail to see there is more then one economy in the global economy!

yup

and then he has Europe which as of late has been building NEW coal plants

which will need tons and tons of coal as well

--LOL

 

[ABikerSailor]

The future looks so much cleaner.

There’s a reason that Donald Trump didn’t have a crowd of wind power workers standing behind him at his rallies, and it goes beyond just his disdain for windmills off the coast of his Scottish golf course. The reason is that anyone who knows how to build or service wind power was out building and servicing wind power. It’s not just the fastest growing segment of America’s energy picture, it’s the fastest growing occupation, period.

The fastest-growing occupation in the United States — by a long shot, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics — might surprise you: wind turbine technician. …

In 2016, for the first time, more than 100,000 people in the United States were employed in some manner by the wind industry, according to an annual report released Wednesday by the American Wind Energy Association.

But Trump lined up coal miners. Why? First because Trump’s anti-regulatory bent was beloved of coal mine operators who expect to increase their profit per ton by using cheaper practices requiring less labor. Second, because … they make great props. Coal miners are the go-to occupation when it comes to dangerous, underappreciated labor. They also happen to be in a failing industry that’s in a steep decline on its way to extinction, so they’re always available.

Bloomberg has put together an article that contains a series of tables and graphics to show why coal is simply doomed.

Wind and solar are about to become unstoppable, natural gas and oil production are approaching their peak, and electric cars and batteries for the grid are waiting to take over. This is the world Donald Trump inherited as U.S. president. And yet his energy plan is to cut regulations to resuscitate the one sector that’s never coming back: coal.



One thing the Bloomberg article shows is just how much good news there is on the energy front. Renewables aren’t just becoming more common, economies of scale are continuing to drive down costs, which drives up the market, which drives down cost, which has driven renewables to the tipping point.

Unsubsidized wind and solar are beginning to outcompete coal and natural gas in an ever-widening circle of countries.

With coal, it doesn’t matter if the cost drops, because there’s no where else to burn the coal. Coal isn’t an end in itself. It goes into a generator at a coal-fired steam plant. Even if someone started producing 100 percent more coal right now, or cut the price significantly, there would be no new, ready market.

Wind and solar are generators in themselves. They can join the grid incrementally. That small scale, incremental nature is a big part of what’s helped vault natural gas ahead of coal, but it’s even more true of wind and solar. They can come in one field, one rooftop at a time. It’s no wonder that traditional suppliers are working so hard to pass laws that restrict the ease of adding small-scale wind and solar to the grid, because both are at the point where they could roll the market, with every gain leading to the next.

The other good news in the Bloomberg report—carbon emissions in the United States fell 23 perent during the Obama administration. Part of that was the cleaner mix of sources, but it was also a simple fall in demand as those mean old LED lights, flat-screen TVs, and higher efficiency appliances simply cut demand. The US is already halfway to the goals set in the Paris agreement.

The end result is truly amazing.

Power is getting cleaner and cheaper at the same time we are needing less power. That’s putting pressure on the market to get cheaper still. And increasingly the only source that can compete at the prices the market is demanding is … wind and solar.

Meanwhile, someone is going to have to explain to the people Donald Trump promised a comeback why it’s never going to happen.

Donald Trump has tied himself to the one form of energy that's never—never, never—coming back

Windmills are manufactured in China. Fuck them.

Do you even do any research before posting the bullshit you spew?

More of America’s wind turbines are actually being built in America

In 2007, just 25 percent of turbine components used in new wind farms in the U.S. were produced domestically. By last year, that figure had risen to 72 percent, according to a new report from the U.S. Department of Energy. And exports of such equipment rose to $388 million last year, up from $16 million in 2007.

 

[whitehall]

It's interesting that the radical gang, PETA, allegedly is in the business of protecting animal life to the point of trying to disrupt the sport fishing industry with crazy billboards that claim "fish have feelings, were silent when Barry Hussein issued an executive order that protected the wind industry from litigation. It's no secret that the gigantic blades disrupt the migratory bird paths and sometimes kill flocks of migratory birds including endangered species like hawks and eagles. It shows that PETA exists only to promote democrat party agendas and it questions the motivation of the entire environmental movement. Ironically it seems that hunters and conservationists that are affiliated with the NRA do more to protect the environment than the political activists who are in power because of their support of the democrat party.

 

[initforme]

Energy companies are untrustworthy in the least.....we all agree on that.

 

[skews13]

Solar could power this entire planet 1,000 times over again and the entire effin world could be powered by a few tens of thousand sq miles of solar somewhere in northern Africa.

Enough energy from the sun falling on the earth in one hour, is enough power to run the entire power need of the earth for one month. Anyone that can look at a star in space every morning and not understand it's significance for energy production, is ,n't as intelligent as a piece of coal. The mental midgets on the right can whine all they want. Coal is dead, and it isn't coming back, and the alternative energy industry is the fastest growing industry on the planet, and there isn't thing one they can do about it.

 

[DarkFury]

"China’s coal power generation capacity will grow as much as 19 percent over the next five years even as the world’s biggest energy consumer expands use of non-fossil fuels."

China Just Signaled It's Going to Use More Coal

 

[Cellblock2429]

Solar could power this entire planet 1,000 times over again and the entire effin world could be powered by a few tens of thousand sq miles of solar somewhere in northern Africa.

/---- More wishful thinking from the Leftards. Check back in 100 years and see if the technology is ready.

The first step to making the possible is pushing for it and investing. You just don't want that as that would kill off your coal.

/---- My coal? My electricity comes from gas fired generation. I don't own coal stocks either. So drool on Libtard.

 

[12icer]

Solar could power this entire planet 1,000 times over again and the entire effin world could be powered by a few tens of thousand sq miles of solar somewhere in northern Africa.

/---- More wishful thinking from the Leftards. Check back in 100 years and see if the technology is ready.

The first step to making the possible is pushing for it and investing. You just don't want that as that would kill off your coal.

You are undoubtably a moron. There is NO way that solar could power LA with all of the solar cells in existence. There is also not enough total unforested land mass to cover with solar cells to power the world. Wind turbines require a sophisticated phase matching system that is so complex the average idiot like you has no idea what screw or knob to turn to even start it. If you use Direct current GENERATORS instead of alternators they require magnetic stators that are very inefficient and they would be a lot larger than the AC version AND they would also require a large battery storage facility for current/voltage buffering and a large inverter battery to produce sine wave generation for household use. The "green energy' fantasy is only a grift to separate the taxpayers from their money, and redistribute it to the lying thieving dimshit scum and their friends. Already proved many times by the opening funding, and death of hundreds of dimshits supporters new technology breakthroughs. You are the some of the people fooled all of the time. HAHAHAHAHAAAHAHA oh shit "whuts in the mirror matthew when you look in???" "damn joe some dumbass is all I see!!!!"

 

[Harry Dresden]

It's interesting that the radical gang, PETA, allegedly is in the business of protecting animal life to the point of trying to disrupt the sport fishing industry with crazy billboards that claim "fish have feelings, were silent when Barry Hussein issued an executive order that protected the wind industry from litigation. It's no secret that the gigantic blades disrupt the migratory bird paths and sometimes kill flocks of migratory birds including endangered species like hawks and eagles. It shows that PETA exists only to promote democrat party agendas and it questions the motivation of the entire environmental movement. Ironically it seems that hunters and conservationists that are affiliated with the NRA do more to protect the environment than the political activists who are in power because of their support of the democrat party.

these are the new wind turbines which take care of that problem.....they are also 40% cheaper to build and maintain than the ones with blades...

The Future of Wind Turbines? No Blades
but then there is this....Bladeless Wind Turbine — Reality Check