Trump Has Tied Himself To The One Source Of Energy Is Never, Never Coming Back

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The future looks so much cleaner.

There’s a reason that Donald Trump didn’t have a crowd of wind power workers standing behind him at his rallies, and it goes beyond just his disdain for windmills off the coast of his Scottish golf course. The reason is that anyone who knows how to build or service wind power was out building and servicing wind power. It’s not just the fastest growing segment of America’s energy picture, it’s the fastest growing occupation, period.

The fastest-growing occupation in the United States — by a long shot, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics — might surprise you: wind turbine technician. …

In 2016, for the first time, more than 100,000 people in the United States were employed in some manner by the wind industry, according to an annual report released Wednesday by the American Wind Energy Association.

But Trump lined up coal miners. Why? First because Trump’s anti-regulatory bent was beloved of coal mine operators who expect to increase their profit per ton by using cheaper practices requiring less labor. Second, because … they make great props. Coal miners are the go-to occupation when it comes to dangerous, underappreciated labor. They also happen to be in a failing industry that’s in a steep decline on its way to extinction, so they’re always available.

Bloomberg has put together an article that contains a series of tables and graphics to show why coal is simply doomed.

Wind and solar are about to become unstoppable, natural gas and oil production are approaching their peak, and electric cars and batteries for the grid are waiting to take over. This is the world Donald Trump inherited as U.S. president. And yet his energy plan is to cut regulations to resuscitate the one sector that’s never coming back: coal.



One thing the Bloomberg article shows is just how much good news there is on the energy front. Renewables aren’t just becoming more common, economies of scale are continuing to drive down costs, which drives up the market, which drives down cost, which has driven renewables to the tipping point.

Unsubsidized wind and solar are beginning to outcompete coal and natural gas in an ever-widening circle of countries.

With coal, it doesn’t matter if the cost drops, because there’s no where else to burn the coal. Coal isn’t an end in itself. It goes into a generator at a coal-fired steam plant. Even if someone started producing 100 percent more coal right now, or cut the price significantly, there would be no new, ready market.

Wind and solar are generators in themselves. They can join the grid incrementally. That small scale, incremental nature is a big part of what’s helped vault natural gas ahead of coal, but it’s even more true of wind and solar. They can come in one field, one rooftop at a time. It’s no wonder that traditional suppliers are working so hard to pass laws that restrict the ease of adding small-scale wind and solar to the grid, because both are at the point where they could roll the market, with every gain leading to the next.

The other good news in the Bloomberg report—carbon emissions in the United States fell 23 perent during the Obama administration. Part of that was the cleaner mix of sources, but it was also a simple fall in demand as those mean old LED lights, flat-screen TVs, and higher efficiency appliances simply cut demand. The US is already halfway to the goals set in the Paris agreement.

The end result is truly amazing.

Power is getting cleaner and cheaper at the same time we are needing less power. That’s putting pressure on the market to get cheaper still. And increasingly the only source that can compete at the prices the market is demanding is … wind and solar.

Meanwhile, someone is going to have to explain to the people Donald Trump promised a comeback why it’s never going to happen.

Donald Trump has tied himself to the one form of energy that's never—never, never—coming back
 
Solar could power this entire planet 1,000 times over again and the entire effin world could be powered by a few tens of thousand sq miles of solar somewhere in northern Africa.
/---- More wishful thinking from the Leftards. Check back in 100 years and see if the technology is ready.
 
Solar could power this entire planet 1,000 times over again and the entire effin world could be powered by a few tens of thousand sq miles of solar somewhere in northern Africa.

You're right, there ARE places that get enough sun, and are large enough to do that very thing.

Unfortunately, in order for something like that to be viable, there has to be peace across the world.
 
Solar could power this entire planet 1,000 times over again and the entire effin world could be powered by a few tens of thousand sq miles of solar somewhere in northern Africa.
but what happens if everyone uses solar and the sun gets depleted?......
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Solar could power this entire planet 1,000 times over again and the entire effin world could be powered by a few tens of thousand sq miles of solar somewhere in northern Africa.
/---- More wishful thinking from the Leftards. Check back in 100 years and see if the technology is ready.


The first step to making the possible is pushing for it and investing. You just don't want that as that would kill off your coal.
 
Solar could power this entire planet 1,000 times over again and the entire effin world could be powered by a few tens of thousand sq miles of solar somewhere in northern Africa.
/---- More wishful thinking from the Leftards. Check back in 100 years and see if the technology is ready.


The first step to making the possible is pushing for it and investing. You just don't want that as that would kill off your coal.
Leftist Calif is doing all it can to crush solar. All incentives gone and pushing taxes and fees on users now.
 
Solar could power this entire planet 1,000 times over again and the entire effin world could be powered by a few tens of thousand sq miles of solar somewhere in northern Africa.
but what happens if everyone uses solar and the sun gets depleted?......
partly-cloudy-smiley-emoticon.gif

The earth will be long gone by then, and if humans haven't figured out how to colonize space by then (if we're still around at all), they will disappear when the sun explodes into a Red Giant, which will consume earth, and then it will dim down.

But, that's gonna take around 4 billion years or so.
 
Solar could power this entire planet 1,000 times over again and the entire effin world could be powered by a few tens of thousand sq miles of solar somewhere in northern Africa.
but what happens if everyone uses solar and the sun gets depleted?......
partly-cloudy-smiley-emoticon.gif

The earth will be long gone by then, and if humans haven't figured out how to colonize space by then (if we're still around at all), they will disappear when the sun explodes into a Red Giant, which will consume earth, and then it will dim down.

But, that's gonna take around 4 billion years or so.


With the attitude of conservatives I think we'll wipe each other within the next few centuries.
 
wind-energy-621511_1280_%281%29.jpg

The future looks so much cleaner.

There’s a reason that Donald Trump didn’t have a crowd of wind power workers standing behind him at his rallies, and it goes beyond just his disdain for windmills off the coast of his Scottish golf course. The reason is that anyone who knows how to build or service wind power was out building and servicing wind power. It’s not just the fastest growing segment of America’s energy picture, it’s the fastest growing occupation, period.

The fastest-growing occupation in the United States — by a long shot, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics — might surprise you: wind turbine technician. …

In 2016, for the first time, more than 100,000 people in the United States were employed in some manner by the wind industry, according to an annual report released Wednesday by the American Wind Energy Association.

But Trump lined up coal miners. Why? First because Trump’s anti-regulatory bent was beloved of coal mine operators who expect to increase their profit per ton by using cheaper practices requiring less labor. Second, because … they make great props. Coal miners are the go-to occupation when it comes to dangerous, underappreciated labor. They also happen to be in a failing industry that’s in a steep decline on its way to extinction, so they’re always available.

Bloomberg has put together an article that contains a series of tables and graphics to show why coal is simply doomed.

Wind and solar are about to become unstoppable, natural gas and oil production are approaching their peak, and electric cars and batteries for the grid are waiting to take over. This is the world Donald Trump inherited as U.S. president. And yet his energy plan is to cut regulations to resuscitate the one sector that’s never coming back: coal.



One thing the Bloomberg article shows is just how much good news there is on the energy front. Renewables aren’t just becoming more common, economies of scale are continuing to drive down costs, which drives up the market, which drives down cost, which has driven renewables to the tipping point.

Unsubsidized wind and solar are beginning to outcompete coal and natural gas in an ever-widening circle of countries.

With coal, it doesn’t matter if the cost drops, because there’s no where else to burn the coal. Coal isn’t an end in itself. It goes into a generator at a coal-fired steam plant. Even if someone started producing 100 percent more coal right now, or cut the price significantly, there would be no new, ready market.

Wind and solar are generators in themselves. They can join the grid incrementally. That small scale, incremental nature is a big part of what’s helped vault natural gas ahead of coal, but it’s even more true of wind and solar. They can come in one field, one rooftop at a time. It’s no wonder that traditional suppliers are working so hard to pass laws that restrict the ease of adding small-scale wind and solar to the grid, because both are at the point where they could roll the market, with every gain leading to the next.

The other good news in the Bloomberg report—carbon emissions in the United States fell 23 perent during the Obama administration. Part of that was the cleaner mix of sources, but it was also a simple fall in demand as those mean old LED lights, flat-screen TVs, and higher efficiency appliances simply cut demand. The US is already halfway to the goals set in the Paris agreement.

The end result is truly amazing.

Power is getting cleaner and cheaper at the same time we are needing less power. That’s putting pressure on the market to get cheaper still. And increasingly the only source that can compete at the prices the market is demanding is … wind and solar.

Meanwhile, someone is going to have to explain to the people Donald Trump promised a comeback why it’s never going to happen.

Donald Trump has tied himself to the one form of energy that's never—never, never—coming back
Your limited scope of understanding power and trade is glaring. You look at our economy and think that is everything. What a foolish approach that is and a fair amount of ego as well.

Trump just agreed to sell China TWO MILLION SIX HUNDRED THOUSAND TONS of coal to China PER MONTH! China gets well over SEVENTY PERCENT of its power from coal. The coal jobs are NOW back and we are selling to the second LARGEST economy in the world!

That brings our trade - numbers down and our profit numbers up. ONLY AN IDIOT would fail to see there is more then one economy in the global economy!
 
Solar could power this entire planet 1,000 times over again and the entire effin world could be powered by a few tens of thousand sq miles of solar somewhere in northern Africa.
but what happens if everyone uses solar and the sun gets depleted?......
partly-cloudy-smiley-emoticon.gif

The earth will be long gone by then, and if humans haven't figured out how to colonize space by then (if we're still around at all), they will disappear when the sun explodes into a Red Giant, which will consume earth, and then it will dim down.

But, that's gonna take around 4 billion years or so.
i do hope you did not take me seriously ABS....
 
Even at a time when the democrat controlled government under Obama was trying to destroy the Coal industry it still produced 22% of the total energy of the U.S. The combined highly touted "renewable energy" lavishly funded by taxpayers created about 8% and it's likely to remain stagnant unless they build more of these inefficient migratory bird killing monstrosities.The reason the (mostly Danish) wind turbine industry employs 100,000 workers and rising is because the wind turbines require so much freaking maintenance while the wind industry is supported mostly by taxpayers rather than private industry. So it ain't really good news that the wind industry employs so many people. Actually it's bad news for taxpayers.
 
Nuclear is the only stable and environmentally friendly energy source. It's why the left hate it.

Stable and environmentally friendly? Really? Ever hear of Three Mile Island? How about Chernobyl? Ever heard of the Fukushima Nuclear Plant?

Yeah............tell me again how stable and environmentally friendly nuclear power is.

And then, there is the question of what to do with the nuclear waste. Here in Amarillo, they are trying to work out a deal to build a nuclear dump site just outside of Amarillo, next to Bushland.

People here are pissed about it.
 

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