trump claims he told NATO country he would not protect them if Russia attacked them

[MAGA Macho Man]

Switzerland is the only country in the world that adheres towards democracy via it's constitution providing for a plebiscite based government policy - thus ensuring the "peoples right and will" towards governing their own will and life via plebiscites.

The amendment, cancellation or introduction of any law in Switzerland, is fully depended on a plebiscite. Right down to the setting of a fine in regards to a speeding ticket.

As such the statements of those Swiss immigrants you are citing - don't make sense at all. Maybe they belong to those who never participate in plebiscites (who's participation is indeed sometimes very low) but then always complain.

The State of Bavaria to which I belong has a large provision for plebiscites in it's constitution - however most people are simply to lazy to be bothered with participating - and prefer to simply complain.

Hitler loved Bavaria!

 

[Kruska]

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Indeed, that was supposed to be the reset by Obama and Clinyon tp Russia.

Why do you desperately try to exclude Bush and Trump from these issues? the factual main perpetrators of this present Ukraine mess.

 

[MAGA Macho Man]

- Ukraine is NOT a NATO member.

They don't need to be.

 

[Mac1958]

Hitler loved Bavaria!

What is your opinion of Hitler?

 

[Kruska]

Hitler loved Bavaria!

An idiotic comment - thanks. Hitler was also the one who opposed laws that guaranteed a rather independent Bavaria and it's own policies, and therefore dismantled it's constitution immediately upon becoming dictator of Germany.

It was also the Bavarian Police and the government that shot up that insurrectionist Nazi rabble in 1923, and incarcerated him.

As for your ignorant Ukraine reply - NATO has no right at all to intervene physically in a war that is not part of the alliance. NATO strikes at Serbia therefore constitute a war-crime. And when European NATO members fucked up Libya - the first one to claim neutrality and nonmilitary engagement was??? yes the USA.

 

[Doc7505]

Why do you desperately try to exclude Bush and Trump from these issues? the factual main perpetrators of this present Ukraine mess.

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Trump is correct that NATO has failed to meet their financial repsonsibilities to the Group and the U.S. has been the prime supplier rather.
As far as Bush us concerned. He was able to get NATO to assist in stopping Iraq and assist in Afghanistan.

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[RetiredGySgt]

Well, pay your dues. How hard is that?

I draw the line at threats to allies. This was uncalled for and stupid. There are ways to make them pay with OUT threats of not living up to our treaty obligations. No problem I wont be voting in November.

 

[JLW]

If Trump is elected, NATO will be dissolved and Putin given free rein to do what he will in Europe.

Believe Trump when he says who he is.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Leftoids: We want war, and we want more, and we want it now!

Voting for Trump is unmitigated madness; this is yet further proof of Trump’s reckless, irresponsible foreign policy and that Trump is in fact unfit to be president.

 

[there4eyeM]

Well, there is certainly no lack of vodka in these threads.

 

[cnm]

As such the statements of those Swiss immigrants you are citing - don't make sense at all.

Perhaps a heavy focus on plebiscites isn't the best form of democracy for everyone. I'm not sure it did the Hellenes much good.

 

[Smokin' OP]

I'm just out of words at this point. Imagine what our allies are thinking. Does he not realize they know what's happening right near them, in Ukraine?

This is a former, and possibly future, American President. He's killing us. He figures we don't need allies. How do people support this?

Can you imagine how Trump's cult would react..................if Biden was the one saying these things?

 

[Vastator]

Can you imagine how Trump's cult would react..................if Biden was the one saying these things?

No one is surprised by anything Biden says. That guy is so ate up, every presser is a veritable comedy stand up routine...

 

[pknopp]

Indeed. They are the ones clamoring for war with Russia, by funding Ukraine.

Let them take on Russia without our help.

It's one thing to say you wouldn't fund it. It's quite another to encourage it.

 

[Mac1958]

Can you imagine how Trump's cult would react..................if Biden was the one saying these things?

An American President not caring if the people of Europe live or die.

That's what they're seeing. This will matter.

 

[Smokin' OP]

No one is surprised by anything Biden says. That guy is so ate up, every presser is a veritable comedy stand up routine...

Sure................Just listen to Trump.

 

[cnm]

Trump is correct that NATO has failed to meet their financial repsonsibilities to the Group and the U.S. has been the prime supplier rather.

Specifics. What the fuck are you talking about?

 

[cnm]

There are ways to make them pay

Pay what?

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Specifics. What the fuck are you talking about?

the NATO countries do NOT fund their militaries properly and a deal was struck saying they had to spend like 2 percent of their budget on it. They havent done so. But that does not forgive Trump for threatening them with war and us not fulfilling our obligations.

 

[Bleipriester]

Sometimes I swear this man is trying to lose. All he has to do is keep his mouth shut and let Biden drown in the media cycle and instead he just keeps trying to one up him on the insanity scale.

Donald Trump says he would encourage Russia to ATTACK NATO members

Donald Trump has claimed he would encourage Russia to attack NATO members that don't pay their share of the alliance's budget as he riled up a huge crowd at a rally in South Carolina.

www.dailymail.co.uk

That is just more Trump nonsense. He knows the mood in America and tries to profit from it. And he is contradicting himself again. Just days ago he said again that Nato is obsolete. Now he wants the members to pay properly.
So he tells everyone what they want to hear, gets elected and gives a damn about his campaign promises, just like in 2016.